Dawoodi Bohra Forum

During the 23 years of Muhammad's time as a prophet, the verses of the Quran were memorized as they were revealed, and about 42 scribes wrote the verses on different materials such as paper, cloth, bone fragments and leather. In ancient times, literacy was a skill that few people had and Muhammad h...

Again missing the point . The Quran in its current recording was done by Khalifa. It did not come down in a book form or order of ayats as we memorize or read. This is fact. Jesus SAW was not preaching prophet hood in the cradle. The Imam Bohra believe is a concept created recently. The 2 year old ...

Question is not evil, the answers are good or bad. I asked do Bohra and Shia agree the book they read in paper form was under direction of Khalifa Umar. They get their children recite this without knowing the meaning or source. Yet same curse this great servant of Islam. [/quote] The Quran in it's ...

Salaam Everyone I am starting this thread here to dissect the Myths taught in Sabaq. As everyone knows people who attended the Sabaqs are given Oaths not to discuss even with their parents or spouses but the word always leaks out, So let us put those leaks here and ask some of our learned people on...

The position of Dai-al-Mutlaq has always been there... Mazoon-al-Mutlaq, Dai-al-Mutlaq, Dai-al-Balagh, Hujjat-al-Lail, Hujjat-an-Nahar,Bab-ul-Abwab are designated positions under the imam which have been there from the "start"... you gain those positions based on ilm and amal.. and ofcourse, as per...

Now, I have a strong reason to believe that SBM is either a non-bohra or he/she has literally no knowledge about this community’s past. Raja Bharmal and Raja Tarmal probably existed before the birth of 21st Imam. They were in no capacity dais. First dai to be a descendant of Indian people or maybe ...

Does anyone know if these books:
Taaweel-ud-Daim
Asaas-ul-Taweel

by Syedna Qazi Noman were ever translated in English and if so, anyone has them?

If not, would anyone know where to get these books from in any language so that I could commission a translation in english..

thanks!

" but wearing rida is part of islamic law for woman which is to be enforced." Which Islamic Law? where did you get it? "Naming your children is a choice which people follow and if they want to keep a different name on their passport and other documents they are free to do so." Then why grown ups we...

SHU CHOTE MOULA -MALIK SAHEB KHAFA CHE? DAWAT NE KHTRAMA MUKI RAHYA CHE? Taja samachar mujab, Mecca Moazzam ma Haj na wakhat e Amirul Haj Shezada Malekul Ashter Saheb e Ali Qader Moula ni Raza wagar ne khaas kari Aqa Moula na Farman virudh je amalo kidha che te babt e Aqa Moula ghana Naraj che. Mou...

there are messages coming on the ITS channel to not believe in anything apart from what is being conveyed by them.. this happens only when there is much more to the story and the administration wants to control the narrative.

New Mantra for Ashra Festival Kaho Ghod Sawaar key Upaar Rehmatullaha Kaho Uske Ghodey Pey Lanatullah that was hilarious.. Does anyone know if he will be physically capable of leading Ashara waaz anymore? It's going to be a loss of millions of dollars if he doesnt... whoever sits on that 'throne' i...

Adam - you mention: Oh wait, I almost forgot. KQ actually objected to Syedna Mohammed's Burhanuddin's decision of removing these 4 Ustaads. I have personally not heard about this but I have heard about SKQ asking SMB to handling many other bara'at situations (there have been very many of these) in a...

That is true.. however, no official Nass document was signed then.. it was only done when YN started coercing his father into naming him the Dai instead of his brother.. there are a couple of posts on this very forum about this...It was only then that the Nass papers were produced and openly shown ...

Sheikh Sajjad Hussain also recommended to STS to make SMB the Dai... SSH(Sheikh Sajjad Hussain) is one of the 7 witnesses of the Nass of STS to SMB... anyone in the 'royal' family who has access to such documents can verify that SSH and Sheikh Hasan Ali are both witnesses of the Nass... this is how...

I have criticized SBM, SKQ and STF and their families for living very luxurious lifestyles on the backs of ordinary bohris. There is no doubt about this even amongst the most fanatical follower of Muffy, for example. I mean, no one can say they live a "simple" lifestyle and at the same time see the...

Very good writeup, kseeker. It is possible that nass did not happen on S. Abdul Qadir Najmuddin. However, it is highly unlikely. It is far more likely that the nass happened but that the senior mashaaikh did not accept it, at least in their hearts. They wielded great power and influence at that poi...

STF will never call this out.. because if he accepts Dai's are only till 46, why should anyone follow him? Also, he will literally be calling his father and grand fathers a liar... EXACTLY....and this is why I hate those guys more than muffy group... because they claim to be most saccha people whil...

In my opinion, the biggest crime taher saifuddin and Muhammed Burhanuddin did was restricting people from reading Quran with meanings. they made it soo bad in people mind they people literally started abusing anyone who would promote reading Quran with meanings. this was done to keep people away fr...

Did the establishment act on information received from the students or was it just mere coincidence that these 4 gents were targetted. It's a bit of both. I will share what I have learnt about the 4 Ustaads and the movement itself... To answer your question, The 4 Ustaads (any many others in the Ja...

I believe there will be a change in the followers dynamics if the ruling goes in TF's favour. Dawoodi bohras are not just a sect of islam but a full fledged socialist organization. Without 90% of the halls, jamaats and other structures, controlling the mass will not be easy. I understand that the j...

Correct me if I am wrong, many progressives believe that Syedna AbdulQadir Najmuddin was not a rightfully selected dai, right? Now when the judge overseeing the Chandabhoy Galla Case, upheld the right of Syedna Taher Saifuddin as the rightful Dai al Mutlaq, and hence legally accepting Syedna AbdulQ...

The book clearly talks about circumcision for both men and women.. in case of the women to alter the labia and clitoris but to not remove it completely.. this is to make a wife "chaster and more loved by her husband"... do you disagree with that statement that this is said, if not, how do you expla...

i agree we should not go. but on other hand, how will we know what he says if nobody goes. it was not relayed, and even if it is relayed sometime afterwards or next year, most probably that part would be edited out. if anyody recorded that? The problem with going is the following: as far as the Kot...

Seeker, No it does not. Money collected from poor (as wajebaat/sabil etc) goes into jumaat jaman, masjid and roza maintenance, imam uz zaman silat etc. Money spent for other than welfare for mumineen comes from ziafat najwa, qadam najwa and qadambosi covers. When you are not the person running an o...

Thank you Biradar. I have ordered them last week.. should get a copy soon hopefully... Have you read any of the Ikhwan us Safa translations? Also, are there any other of Fatimid Books in English which you would recommend? I am very interested in the theological subjects and ideas... I have also hea...

this link does not work.. can anyone please find me an english translation of Daim ul Islam and Tawil ud Daim? I will be eternally grateful. You can buy the english translations of Da'a'im al-Islam Vol I and II (by Ismaili Poonawala) from Amazon. There are no complete english translations of Ta'wil...

there is no doubt TF is a much smarter and able person than MS will ever be... his dawat is a much 'better' option than the MS one.. but please don't forget... the wealth you are talking about was not made from zero.. KQ had a lot of money, money gained by STS who literally went from rags to riches...

Bhai if what you say is true about the enormous cash and significant funds , then " Tamaara moh ma ghee shakkar " :P and who knows maybe what you say is heard by Allah subha-nahu and he actually makes it happen for Fatemi-dawat. In both scenarios , " Tamaara moh ma ghee shakkar " Well said Moiz Bha...

asif786 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:11 am

The books are available on UK progressive website .

http://www.dawoodi-bohras.org.uk/Publications.html

this link does not work..
can anyone please find me an english translation of Daim ul Islam and Tawil ud Daim?
I will be eternally grateful.

Sorry to unearth this old thread.. was going through Insaf Saheb's posts in his rememberance but can anyone tell me who are these: "Mahdibag-walla Bohras"??