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by Biradar
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:02 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
Replies: 1857
Views: 516177

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya

Good to see you again Biradar :-) Any old timer who pops up here gives a sense of relief -- that this forum is still not completely dead even though it is on its last gasps. To the point, the Kothar mafia and their glad-handing of those in power is not new. The iblis toli as you call them is only i...
by Biradar
Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
Replies: 1857
Views: 516177

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya

There are three ways one can oppose tyranny and evil: First, to take up arms and fight injustice Second, if one can't fight due to weakness or risk to life, to oppose the injustice by words Third, if one can't even oppose the injustice with words due to fear and lack of courage, to hate the injustic...
by Biradar
Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:41 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Biradar is one of those kufi muawiya lovers who loved to abuse Imam Ali. Welcome to the club Biradar. The concept of Imamat is not limited to 600k Bohras, The concept of Imamat you are referring to is limited only to the Bohras. Sunnis do not believe in a hiding Imam. They believe in an Imam that w...
by Biradar
Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I was gone for about 24 hours for work and family matters, and what do I see when I return? I am being cursed, lanto-fied and condemned by half-wits, morons and cretins of all sorts. Seems at least something has united them for a moment of cursing each other to curse me! Admin must award me with som...
by Biradar
Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

More from HT: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/hc-questions-plaintiff-and-defendant-on-silence-of-nass-conferred-on-them-101671649208247.html This is really a total farce. I am sure "Santa" is having a good laugh. Incidentally, Muffy's elder brother, Qaid Chor is implying ...
by Biradar
Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:58 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I have been on this Forum for 20+ years and we used to have very heated but enlightening discussions about all aspects and personalities of our deen, but I don't remember such abusive and derogatory language used for a descendant of Rasulullah S A. Reading kalema tus I guess you must be suffering f...
by Biradar
Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Hello people, calm down. Why are you guys shooting the messenger? Anyone with half a brain would conclude that there's something seriously wrong with this Imam business. Also, people here have questioned God and His existence, they have been critical of the Prophet, they have questioned Imams too, ...
by Biradar
Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:58 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I also felt offended with Biradar's foolish comments about Imam A S. Rasulullah S A has said that i am leaving two things in this world and they will meet me back at Hauz e Kauser, one is Quran and the other is Imam from my progeny. If you deny Imam's existence then you don't even qualify to be a m...
by Biradar
Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

There is nothing can be done about their loss over here. But if they open their eyes, it is never too late to salvage the hereafter. They should realize that the bohra religion is a farce as you rightly pointed out. There is no hidden Imam providing ilham and even if there, the bohra Dais don't giv...
by Biradar
Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:02 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I pray that the high court brings an end to this madness so that the caliph can turn his attention towards his job. Who is the dai is less important. How to uplift a downtrodden community? How to reverse the demographic decline? These are all lost causes. The da'is are all busy minting money, as qu...
by Biradar
Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:56 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

After reading everyone's comments here and following the court arguments as printed in Hindustan Times, i believe the Chief Judge is pushing the SKQ/STF to reply satisfactorily to his one question, and the whole case hinges on the reply to this question. The question is, why didn't KQ go to SMB bet...
by Biradar
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:02 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I think the FD side is also not very capable. The Zahir-Batin conspiracy is very well documented, and recordings of family members of SMB berating SKQ exist. Muffy was the central pole around whom the conspiracy revolved. It is well-documented on this board and analyzed in great detail here. Furthe...
by Biradar
Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:43 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Could it be that they are out of all other options/ideas and are likely wrong, and hence making such an outrageous claim? These types of arguments are made deliberately, to muddy the waters. Most Bohras (I would say 90-95%) have no clue what any text says, specially about such obscure matters like ...
by Biradar
Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Very interesting from SMS side their lawyers stood up during this and said that actually after the 6th Imam died, the 5th Imam did nass on another son Moosa Qazeem and then later changed the nass to the 7th Imam after some time. SMS lawyer also said that this is a very sensitive matter and the cour...
by Biradar
Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:23 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

More on the case from Hindustan Times. I have to say they are doing a pretty good job of daily coverage of this case: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/plaintiff-casts-doubts-on-veracity-of-will-produced-by-defence-witness-101670351838596-amp.html Again, the argument is if the nass c...
by Biradar
Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:02 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Bhai Biradar, The axiom A1: As per Bohra doctrine, the claim is that it is applicable only to the mazoom, or to any ordinary Bohra? Just trying to understand the Bohra doctrine, that is all. What do you mean? How can an ordinary Bohra become a da'i? In any case, A1 is applicable to anyone, not just...
by Biradar
Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:51 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Bro Birader , Good write up but step away from Bohras kurta-Izar and think from a different angle. My write up was based on the idea's and discussion i when through with my non-bohra work colleagues. For them no matter who ever wins or loses our belief system is proven wrong and a new Firq evolved ...
by Biradar
Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:47 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Updates from Monday: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/defendant-witnesses-backtracked-on-nass-issue-says-counsel-101670267540627-amp.html Again, the discussion is on axioms A1 and A2 I outlined about. Most damming is the following paragraph. Bolding is mine: "The attention of t...
by Biradar
Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:58 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

All these hindu judges are studying and learning about Nass and Dai sole successor on earth, what must be going in their minds ? Their belief in idols and their own religion will be getting more stronger and laughing their hearts out. Not sure I understand the logic here. Why do you say "Their...
by Biradar
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:09 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Another day, another claim from Muffy people: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/is-divine-appointment-valid-if-appointee-pre-deceases-appointer-asks-hc-101670003476762-amp.html Here they are defending the position that the nass can be changed. To be honest, I am not sure what the cor...
by Biradar
Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:59 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

More from Hindustan Times on this farce: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/give-doctrinal-proof-that-nass-cannot-be-revoked-says-hc-101669922020604-amp.html It is funny that this Mudar fellow and Muffy's lawyer states that "as the issue of the Imamate of the fifth, sixth and sev...
by Biradar
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:03 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I think the hearings are proving very damming to the FD people. For example, from the above article: "The counsel informed the bench that as per the statement of Syedna Qutbuddin, he had been called to the private chamber of the 52nd Dai on December 10, 1965, wherein he was told that he would b...
by Biradar
Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:32 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

These hearings are a farce. From the few days of final hearings and news reports it is clear that the FD side has no real actionable evidence. It is all about interpreting some things that STS said or SMB did or said. There is no letter or document that states that nass was done on SKQ. That does no...
by Biradar
Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:59 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: A Curious Find: Interlinear Translation and Marginal Quran Commentary in Gujrathi (in Arabic Script)
Replies: 8
Views: 2811

Re: A Curious Find: Interlinear Translation and Marginal Quran Commentary in Gujrathi (in Arabic Script)

Thanks, Humsafar. I have uploaded all the documents to my Google Drive. I had to break the PDF into smaller chunks of 20 to 100 pages each. The total size is still pretty substantial, being more than 2.5 GBs total. I will send the Admin the link to the drive and he can put it somewhere on the site, ...
by Biradar
Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:18 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Let me bring attention again to my previous posts on this matter, starting here: https://www.dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=183765#p183765. We are only 8 days or so from the final hearings and it will be interesting to see what comes out of it. Given what I see of the incredible fanaticism...
by Biradar
Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:45 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: A Curious Find: Interlinear Translation and Marginal Quran Commentary in Gujrathi (in Arabic Script)
Replies: 8
Views: 2811

Re: A Curious Find: Interlinear Translation and Marginal Quran Commentary in Gujrathi (in Arabic Script)

Ad addenda to the above post: In the same collection I also found a translation of some of Imam Ali Zain-alabedin's du'as in Sahifa Sajjadia. The translation again is in Gujrathi written in Arabic script. The author in this case writes a couple of lines of the du'a followed by a translation and comm...
by Biradar
Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:40 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: A Curious Find: Interlinear Translation and Marginal Quran Commentary in Gujrathi (in Arabic Script)
Replies: 8
Views: 2811

A Curious Find: Interlinear Translation and Marginal Quran Commentary in Gujrathi (in Arabic Script)

It seems from the present and previous Bohra leadership that reading the Quran in translation (and in general making an attempt to understand it by oneself) is forbidden. Part of the reason given is that the Quran is a complex book that requires deep immersion and is not for light reading. This is o...
by Biradar
Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:03 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
Replies: 1857
Views: 516177

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya

while i can understand their sentiment, maybe a mannat, IMHO, this is like people rolling towards Balaji temple and again, IMHO, such mannats should be avoided there are other ways to thank whomever you prayed too, for intercession, like maybe do their ziyarat, maybe sponsor a ziarat for someone el...
by Biradar
Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics
Replies: 744
Views: 272475

Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics

More-la, More-la, Muffy More-la! Su nirali shaan che! I guess this is the next step in the evolution of the Bohras. A so-called da'i who is only interested in money, money and money. A so-called da'i who hates his followers so much that he does not even glance at them once, but points to the envelop...
by Biradar
Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:13 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffi invites John Costello to masjid
Replies: 8
Views: 3067

Re: Muffi invites John Costello to masjid

John Costello was a witness on Muffy's defense team. He submitted an affidavit and was labelled as "DW2" in the court ("Defense Witness 2"). Clearly, his invitation to the bhashan sabha of Muffy was to reward Costello for being a loyal dog and give him his 15 min of fame. It is i...