Dawoodi Bohra Forum

i am not sure , however if there are portraits of mortal human DAI's in a bohra masjid , where muslim pray to the one and only almighty ALLAH ... you have crossed the line . its plain simple shirk.

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DONT GET DISTRACTED . DIS CUSS THAT HERE

aziz wrote:this website should be renamed as either
1) enemies of dawoodi bohras
2) haters of dawoodi bohras
3) insaaf chonicles
4) wahabbi chronicles
this names would fit right in with the current progs and their best supporters the wahabbis

DO the progressive / reformists bohra have their own Dai ?

^ But ultimetly the BOSS is Allah. I did not complete the Kalema since every one should know the complete Kalema. you missed the point So you see where you start and where you have lead to, its Moula Ali and his progeny ...... ...in islam , allah is creator , mohamed is rasool ... and for shias Ali...

enough shia / wahabi dialogue .

question : are bohras even shias let alone muslims ?
if yes explain why ?

>>>and no the Aqa khan is not a descendant of muhamamd his grandpa was a Twelver shia from Kerman ,iran<<< Firstly geographical origin has nothing to do with decendency .....the source of my comment is AKDN.com If you dispute that as He claims , that He is a direct decendent of Prophet pbuh , thru H...

BUT REALLY WHO IS THE bOHRA "VASILA' WHEN iMAM IS HIDDING AND A dAI IS RUNNING AFFAIRS FOR YOU AS A DICTATOR WORRIED ABOUT $$$$ ASPECT OF EMPIRE WITH NO REGARD FOR SPIRITUALITY ... A CULT AT BEST . IS THAT ISLAM IN ITS TRUE SENSE ////

a legitimate Shia Imami Nizari Ismaili tariqua of Islam with an IMAM living and present to guide the momins , , directly decendent from the Holy Prophet thru Hazrat Ali and Bibi Fateemah tu Zahra , ahl-e-bayt, from the holy panj-tan-pak , infallible spiritually : and materially a guide of over 25 mi...

Aqs That is what exactly I said in some other thread, as long as picture does not come in front of people offering Salat, I have no problem. I further clarified since I have not been to any Bohra Masjid lately, I could not comment about the pictures in Masjid. So I do stand corrected. SO THEN THERE...

Smart wrote:^
@Agakhani,
Can you read buddy? If you can, you will see that the first post mentions both Khojas and Bohras as cults based on Prosperity Theology. Fighting with imaginary demons makes you a Don Quixote.

arent IMAM less , Dai worshipper a cult and a mega $$$$ bu$ine$$ ???

zak wrote:is this 'true' islam , today ?

IS THIS TRUE ISLAM ?????

what a silly comment . anyways are bohras really muslims . ? if they are forced to pay over and above required zakat ? then there is corruption in collecting , accounting for , and spendings the $$$$$
IS IT a sect of Islam or a bu$ine$$ ???

porus wrote:I find the grudge that the Shia still hold against the first 3 Khalifas understandable but ultimately senseless.

who buried Prophet while others were too busy unsurping power ?

[quote="porus"] Ismailies have their living Imam. Bohras have lost theirs. Thus Bohras have attempted to substitute the Dai in his place in the metaphysical scheme. Thus the Dai becomes the Master of Taawil. INDEED , the Shia Imami Nizari Ismailis do have a PRESENT and LIVING [ Hazar and M...

u all who type n write about bohra's r a bunch of looser,stupid,and idiot.becoz u dont get love from your caste and community.thats why its easy for u all to blame bohra people.i my self a bohra mumin and i love to wear rida always.and i love my caste and community so much.we all are well manner pe...

the wajebat money is on top of zakat. zakat is to be used for the poor and needy . can you go to the bohri clergy and ask him to give you an account of where he is spending all the 2.5% zakat , the wajebaat, sabil , salams, hub, sila fitra etc money that he recieves in millions every year. have you...

profastian wrote:

omabharti wrote:Insaf Bhai
I am confused, current Syedna connects his ancestary to Yemeni Dai ?

Who told you that?

Are Dais appointed in own family ? Is selection done by Imam in hding or the current Dai ?

Of course, there is mind control going on. Have we denied it? In fact, we are willing participants. The goal is uniformity. Mental, physical and spiritual. so mind control is accepted by bohras. my question is : who controls you mind ? the Dai leader , the Imam , Prophet or ALLah? I agree with the ...

Either your spiritual Dai is 'connecting' with your 'hidden' Imam or he is adjusting his duppatta and topi and dadi ... what do your clergy say he is doing in secret ? has anyone asked the clergy to be explained ... about this and all other rites and rituals of your faith ? Why does it needs to be ...

isnt the prayer not same for all muslims from the Holy Quran , suras and ayats? and all are praying to Allah Almighty . Isnt a mosque a mosque for all muslims then ? Is it social/cultural discrimination or secterian discrimination? any muslim including a bohra can go to Kabba and pray . so whats the...

mumin wrote:ball is in your court.put it to the test.

are you serious or joking?
also are regular dawoodis and progressives in same mosque or different mosques.
are progressive/reformist allowed to pray to Allah in regular dawoodi community mosque?

zak, the problem is transparancy. wakf means money and property donated to the clergy for the benifit of the community. but the forced upon donations which are coined ''WAJEBATS'' compulsory donations are only used by the royal family of the clergy to live a life of extra extra luxury instead of be...

there have been a lot of divisions in the bohri religion. no dai can claim himself an imam. all the dais are answerable to the hidden imam. but the khojas already have a living imam. the bohri and khoja religions were the same people and community with the same religious traditions and values right...

bohris consider themselves muslims. try to go and pray in a bohri mosque and you will find out. first of all you would not be allowed to pray. the reason is simple. the clergy does not want to expose their dictatorial tight fist ruling of this small community to the world. so if another non-dawoodi...

Either your spiritual Dai is 'connecting' with your 'hidden' Imam or he is adjusting his duppatta and topi and dadi ... what do your clergy say he is doing in secret ? has anyone asked the clergy to be explained ... about this and all other rites and rituals of your faith ? Why does it needs to be ...

aqs wrote:

zak wrote:does you spiritual leader "talk" to hidden Imam?

he gets the ilham

Sorry but whats an ilham? live a voice or a vision ? revelation?

a very informative discussion

does you spiritual leader "talk" to hidden Imam?

i was researching / learning about various Shia sects ... and trying to understand true Islam . when i goggled Bohra i hit a few " religious type sites " and also this one . therefore i am asking a few simple questions , so i can learn more . i read a lot of great stuff about this small bu...

Re: recent fraud in misissauga jamaat? money's transferred by Safiuddin on Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:33 am n not only us any non bohra would have said that they r not even muslim Slave of Syedna, If being Muslim to you and your moula means everyone dressed in the same white to give an illusion of piety and...