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by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:43 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Secrets of Nairobi Jamea Exposed on Website
Replies: 3
Views: 2244

Re: Secrets of Nairobi Jamea Exposed on Website

secretive jamea shafahi
I thought Shafahi exams could be attended by anyone? I am not from jamea, nor my mom is but we attend every year and many of my non-jamea friends attend with me. We never saw or heard anyone asking us to leave because we were personas non grata?
by mukhlis52
Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:20 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Replies: 1215
Views: 230726

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

Are these contributions mandatory failing which your Bohra membership will be revoked or are these voluntary?
by mukhlis52
Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:19 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: hierarchy dilemma
Replies: 33
Views: 4268

Re: hierarchy dilemma

Hierarchy of Da'wat mandates the position of Mansus as higher than that of Ma'zoon or Mukasir because the Mansus acts as deputy of the Da'i expressly and actively i.e. even if the Da'i is present whereas the Mazoon/Mukasir act as deputies only in the absence of the Da'i i.e. if the Da'i is on Hajj ...
by mukhlis52
Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:47 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: hierarchy dilemma
Replies: 33
Views: 4268

Re: hierarchy dilemma

Hierarchy of Da'wat mandates the position of Mansus as higher than that of Ma'zoon or Mukasir because the Mansus acts as deputy of the Da'i expressly and actively i.e. even if the Da'i is present whereas the Mazoon/Mukasir act as deputies only in the absence of the Da'i i.e. if the Da'i is on Hajj o...
by mukhlis52
Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:18 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

Actually, no one denies Taawil. Taawil that leads to idol worshipping is to be denied as indicated by the Quran itself. If the taawil says that the face refers to the face of Ali, then it needs to be rejected. If Taawil suggests that "face" is just a metaphor for the entire being used simply for th...
by mukhlis52
Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:56 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

[quote="mukhlis52" Kullo Man Alaiha Faanin Wa Yabqaa Waj'ho Rabbika Zu alJalaale Wa alIkraam Meaning "Everything (literally, everyone) will cease to exist except your Lord's "face"" I wonder what use will the Lord have for His face, without arms and other parts of His body. He will not even have ha...
by mukhlis52
Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:52 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

Muslim First wrote:
mukhlis52 wrote:Again posting in transliterated form

Kullo Man Alaiha Faanin Wa Yabqaa Waj'ho Rabbika Zu alJalaale Wa alIkraam

habi explanation of this aayah?
Kindly post chapter and verse number when discussing Qur'an
Surah Al Rahman , Aayah 26-27
by mukhlis52
Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:27 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

Quran has praised Rasulullah in many places. Habi's ideology of not praising anyone except God is opposed by God Himself :oops:
by mukhlis52
Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:25 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

Again posting in transliterated form

Kullo Man Alaiha Faanin Wa Yabqaa Waj'ho Rabbika Zu alJalaale Wa alIkraam

habi explanation of this aayah?
by mukhlis52
Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:23 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

Does a habi student thank his teacher for teaching him principles of habism? Mukhalis I think you do have problem with English language, Praising and thanking are two different things Please ask your Aamil to explain you the difference and then thank him and if his explanation is good then praise h...
by mukhlis52
Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:13 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

But the problem I find with Wahhabis is that they generally cannot take any praise for Ahlul bayt. They have this mental block that if Ahlul bayt is praised more, the 3 Shaikheen and the 'starry' companions will pale in comparison. Salafi school of thought generally does not allow praise of any hum...
by mukhlis52
Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:59 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

How do Habis explain this verse :

كل من عليها فان ويبقى وجه ربك ذو الجلال والإكرام
by mukhlis52
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:25 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

Yaa Haare Hamdaana Man Yamut Yarani * Min Mumenin aw Munafeqin Ajala O Harith, Whoever dies be it a Believer or a Dissident, shall see me (after his death) Ya'refoni Tarfohu wa A'refohu * Be Ismehi wal Kuna wama Fa'ala His eyes will recall me and I shall recall him - by his name, teknonym and his d...
by mukhlis52
Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:28 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

anajmi wrote:Question is - what is your version of this ayah? Do you think Allah will leave the way to obtain nearness to him in taaweel instead of making it crystal clear?
Counter questioning will lead to more counter questioning. Why don't you answer my simple question before counter questioning me?
by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:05 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

I am sorry about not giving further answers to Muslim First and anajmi because there is no point in inventing the wheel again. If you are contesting the basis of Shia beliefs, you can visit any Shia Forum for that matter or read Shia/Ismaili/Taiyebi books to satisfy your doubts, I'm not going to deb...
by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:53 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

Now you are going into the land of fairy tales. It was Rasulullah who directed Muslimeen to call Ali AS as Amirul Mumineen. Not a fact but fiction. I know the purpose of poetry. One of the biggest purposes of poetry is convey a thought through exaggeration. I am not interested in the intention of p...
by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:53 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

This is poetry. Not a Firmaan that you are understanding it to be issued by a Diwan (Portfolio) of Ali AS. In poetry, there is a strong connection of literature and literary similies, metaphors etc. Therefore you can tone down on the literal meanings regarding them official titles. So in short, you...
by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:33 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

anajmi wrote:
Hearts of those who don't love Ali (a.s) are burning.
And that is because you can write poetry? I mean seriously!! What do the "lovers" of Hazrat Ali smoke?
your heart is burning - the she'r smoked it :D
by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:16 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Poetry on Maula Ali
Replies: 182
Views: 9237

Re: Poetry on Maula Ali

I will just ask a couple of questions, the rest can be easily understood. Badr me aaya to Fateh badr kehlaya, Who gave Ali the title of Fateh Badr? Was it the prophet (saw) or was it an over zealous Ali worshipper? Ohud me aaya to Naasir e rasool(sa) kehlaya, Same question. Takht par aaya to Amirul...
by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:49 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progressive Dawoodi Bohra Beliefs
Replies: 36
Views: 2266

Re: Progressive Dawoodi Bohra Beliefs

porus wrote:
mukhlis52 wrote: Wow, so are you now claiming to know God's intentions, cool bro. :mrgreen:
God's intentions are made clear by God Himself in the Quran.
Your way of putting it certainly makes the reader wonder how insolently you seem to be leading the intentions of Allah instead of letting Him clarifying them.
by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:36 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progressive Dawoodi Bohra Beliefs
Replies: 36
Views: 2266

Re: Progressive Dawoodi Bohra Beliefs

porus wrote:

Even the Quranic concept of 'najwa' before approaching the Prophet is roped in to justify an offering of a gift to the Dai, even though that is clearly not the intent of God's command.
Wow, so are you now claiming to know God's intentions, cool bro. :mrgreen:
by mukhlis52
Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:17 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Nathwani Commission
Replies: 0
Views: 358

Nathwani Commission

Does anyone have a soft copy of the nathwani commission??The whole unabriged version?

thanks in advance
by mukhlis52
Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:41 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: syedna(tus) was in low tone this zikra
Replies: 33
Views: 2653

Re: syedna(tus) was in low tone this zikra

Right in front would mean where brother? The jamea block? The mashaikh block? The qasre aali block? Just wanted to knw where you belong to thts why.
by mukhlis52
Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:56 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kissing hands and feet
Replies: 13
Views: 967

Re: Kissing hands and feet

Could you please brief me with the page number of this kalaam from nehj? If u have the copy edited by Sheikh Muhammad Abduh, it'l be easy for me to refer to this kalaam. Thank you.
by mukhlis52
Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:18 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kissing hands and feet
Replies: 13
Views: 967

Re: Kissing hands and feet

Incredible- your questions are genuine and valid. I shall surely inquire into this custom, regarding non blood related women. About the children kissing the hands and feet of Shehzadas, it takes the reader to an absurd conclusion. Kissing of hands and feet is the longer version of Salaam. This is ho...
by mukhlis52
Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:14 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Inter-sect marriage in Dawoodi Bohra
Replies: 17
Views: 3655

Re: Inter-sect marriage in Dawoodi Bohra

the word is used as a terminology expressing the act of bukaa and maatam.
by mukhlis52
Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:34 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kissing hands and feet
Replies: 13
Views: 967

Re: Kissing hands and feet

the intentions matter more than the action. Bein the sons of Aqa Mola tus, the intentions of ladies as well as men, according to the dawoodi bohra faith, is to recieve blessings of those who are in such a close contact with Aqa Mola tus, this happens in the midst of scores of ppl. If the concept of ...
by mukhlis52
Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: is this the way progs perform majlis?
Replies: 64
Views: 3444

Re: is this the way progs perform majlis?

just wanted to knw whats the reason of pre-fixing asghar in asghar ali. Normally the traditional name is ali asghar, asghar being an adjective for ali, means 'ali the smaller or the younger' asghar seems a bit out of place wen put as a prefix, as it is an arabic name essentially. Just out of curious...
by mukhlis52
Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:47 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Give us our due
Replies: 13
Views: 1246

Re: Give us our due

Sorry brother, i never stated that sadaqa is zakat or vice-versa. I tried to explain that the word al Sadaqaat in the aforementioned verse from Surah al Tawbah means zakat, as is elaborated by the ones who have done the tafseer of the Qur'an. About the expenditure of the money which you are demandin...
by mukhlis52
Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:01 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Give us our due
Replies: 13
Views: 1246

Re: Give us our due

today the system followed by the dawat of waajebaat is an all encompassing system in which all the necessary payments are included in one package. It is by this system that the people do not have to pay all the required money differently, extracting in this fashion the psychological burden of giving...