Oh, ok.Sheikh Ali sadiq wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:17 amLOLLLLLL no wonder you are andh bhakt
Islam is all about logic and daleel not andh bhakti
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- Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:24 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:51 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Only 1 should suffice. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin appointed him as mansoos. That's the essence of being a Dawoodi Bohra Shia Muslim.Fatema Yamani wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:16 am Adam you want people to come to MS for what? Count me 10 qualities of MS as dai? Can you? And I will provide you rebuttal for it.
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:06 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
The judge's decision is based on proof ( which everyone can see and examine ) and not based on faith (which is different for everyone ). Wonderfully worded decision. Mola mola Mufaddal mola Mufaddal mola Zindabad Haq ni Dawat Zindabad Mubarak to you Kaka Akela and all followers. i just hope that he...
- Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:36 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Fed up of Shabab
- Replies: 17
- Views: 7150
Re: Fed up of Shabab
Perhaps I should mention the imaginary wife in the tent-like garb to speed things up...... I had recommended that Qadir and maybe Adam do an exorcism to rid Al-Bore of the jinni, or perhaps at least rid this board of him. Haha! Thanks, but no thanks. This genie was created by Ahmed Ali Raj, and it'...
- Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:47 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Coronavirus
- Replies: 184
- Views: 53806
- Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:46 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Coronavirus
- Replies: 184
- Views: 53806
Re: Coronavirus
Heh heh anyone with an iota of knowledge of Fatemi philosophy would know who received nass from Sadiq imam and how it was passed on :D Pleeeaaase, your credibility of anything Fatemi is less than zero. Simple. From Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq AS to Imam Ismail AS. If you've heard otherwise, please cite an...
- Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:43 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Coronavirus
- Replies: 184
- Views: 53806
Re: Coronavirus
This has been misquoted.dal-chaval-palidu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:33 am Bhai Saif53,
Can you explain how QJ bhaisaheb and your Moula gave in the court to make their case a book that said, between Imam Hussain (AS) and Imam Hassan (AS), one Imam killed the other. Please explain that
- Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:31 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30569
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
And yet you say nothing about Kseeker'ss and other's comments on Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin.
I rest my case. Complicit.
I rest my case. Complicit.
- Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:25 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30569
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
Interesting to note the Qutbi clan: Crater Lake, ajamali & objectiveobserver53 suddenly get activated by my comments, but remain silent on this very thread where accusations are hurled at the 51st & 52nd Dai by kseeker and others. Where's the outrage there? Their silence gives consent for th...
- Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:44 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30569
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
That is true.. however, no official Nass document was signed then.. it was only done when YN started coercing his father into naming him the Dai instead of his brother.. there are a couple of posts on this very forum about this...It was only then that the Nass papers were produced and openly shown ...
- Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:00 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30569
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
Sheikh Sajjad Hussain also recommended to STS to make SMB the Dai... SSH(Sheikh Sajjad Hussain) is one of the 7 witnesses of the Nass of STS to SMB... anyone in the 'royal' family who has access to such documents can verify that SSH and Sheikh Hasan Ali are both witnesses of the Nass... this is how...
- Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:01 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 361774
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Yes. That has been the best proposal so far.
But they haven't. No answers.
- Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:40 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Questions to Adam,Saif53 and alike
- Replies: 27
- Views: 11451
Re: Questions to Adam,Saif53 and alike
Milaap in this context means contact in any form - and misaaq makes it clear In any form would include "engaging with people who do adawat with your mola" on this forum. I reiterate that means more of a soft corner/relationship with Dushmans. It doesn't comprise of the meaning of "en...
- Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:00 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 467877
Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Qutbi Scholars & Followers are thriving on this site. But seem to be quiet on this issue. It would be interesting to know their standpoint on this issue. QUTBI people/followers of Khuzaima Qutbuddin. Please clarify your position on FEMALE CIRCUMCISION/Khafz. Proggys, please follow this up with ...
- Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:57 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
@byculla Thanks for the reply. Understood your stand point. I have given my references from the Risala of Syedna Taher Saifuddin. Anyone of the people on this Forum are free to check it out. From the Proggy's to the Qutbis. Who i'm sure have access to all this stuff anyway. @Sceptical Still awaitin...
- Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:42 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
@Moiz_Dhaanu
Will answer your comments categorically. Inshallah.
But first, I will wait for byculla & Sceptical to reply, as, unike you, they seem to know what they are talking about.
Thanks
Will answer your comments categorically. Inshallah.
But first, I will wait for byculla & Sceptical to reply, as, unike you, they seem to know what they are talking about.
Thanks
- Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Questions to Adam,Saif53 and alike
- Replies: 27
- Views: 11451
Re: Questions to Adam,Saif53 and alike
Mr. aambohree 1. NO. As in no such thing mentioned in the Misaq. Hence I haven't had the need to seek for visiting this forum. I'm here on my own position. Adam - based on what I recollect in misaq sermon - "Je shaks imam ya imam na dai ni adawat kare - pachi ye nazdeek wala hoi ya dur wala ho...
- Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:14 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
@byculla Regarding Sulaiman & Witnesses. Appreciate your knowledge and detailed post. If possible, kindly quote Syedna Mohammed RA bayaan about Sulaiman having witnesses - Or any Dawat texts in order to confirm. The people you mentioned are the ones who helped him in his claim and forge the doc...
- Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:54 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Sorry about the Typo. I understood your comparison. But bboth were Dais appointed by clear Nass & Tawqeef - when they won the cases. Not Mazoons. Understand? What a nonsensical answer. Wrong. Who Won the case? The DAI - Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah. & The DAI - Syedna Tyeb Zainuddin. Why? Be...
- Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:50 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Questions to Adam,Saif53 and alike
- Replies: 27
- Views: 11451
Re: Questions to Adam,Saif53 and alike
Mr. aambohree Salaam I'm not the one that beats around the bush. I always prefer sticking to directl Q & A's without diverting topics. Unlike Proggies on this group. Let me try again: 1. NO. As in no such thing mentioned in the Misaq. Hence I haven't had the need to seek for visiting this forum...
- Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:38 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moharrum and Ashara 2015
- Replies: 817
- Views: 223005
Re: Ashara Oppression 2015
@UnHappyBohra: In contrast, thousands of thoughtful mumineen instantly see the truth in SKQ's words. There is NO comparison. Don't divert the issue. Not diverting the issue. I already gave my opinion on Mr Badri's speech. On the other hand, I wasn't comparing KQ to Badri. I was comparing the double...
- Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:03 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moharrum and Ashara 2015
- Replies: 817
- Views: 223005
Re: Ashara Oppression 2015
@Ruqaiya I have already said that I agree certain things he said were not in line with True Fatemi Dawat beliefs. He would have already been informed of his mistake. About his Khidmat. Well, that is up to the Dai to accept his Khidmat or not. Just like Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA accepted his kh...
- Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:33 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Questions to Adam,Saif53 and alike
- Replies: 27
- Views: 11451
Re: Questions to Adam,Saif53 and alike
@aambohree The reason I haven't answered is because your questions don't seem too fundamentally important. But since you feel so much for it, here are my answers. Disclaimer: My Opinions ONLY. 1. The Misaq says that if I find out anyone has broken the misaq, then I must convey it to the Dai. Doesn'...
- Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:18 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moharrum and Ashara 2015
- Replies: 817
- Views: 223005
Re: Ashara Oppression 2015
@Ruqaiyya If you read my post, you would understand that I am NOT "trying to hide Badri Lacewala". I have already agreed that he has said some wrong things. And he would need to rectify his mistake. In the same way, KQ and his children have said many, many wrong things. You'll should high...
- Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:15 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
But guess what Adam who won the case? The Mazoon Syedna Dawood Bin Qutubshah. And when the Alavis seperated who won the case? The Mazoon Syedna Abdul Tayeb Zakiuddin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a nonsensical answer. Wrong. Who Won the case? The DAI - Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah. & The DAI - Syedna Ty...
- Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:44 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moharrum and Ashara 2015
- Replies: 817
- Views: 223005
Re: Ashara Oppression 2015
About Badri Bhai Lacewala's comments. This is my humble opinion. Before jumping to conclusions, it is important to understand who said it, and what was said. Badri Lacewala holds no official position in The Dawat. He is a Khidmat Guzaar just like all those who have served the 52nd and 53rd Dai in t...
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:43 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
- Replies: 1215
- Views: 377075
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
[quote="ghulam muhammed"]AFTER SLAUGHTERING HORDES OF ABDE GHETAS, MUFFY SLAUGHTERS THE REAL GHETA ON BAKRA EID !!
So now you have a problem with the Islamic Ritual of Zabihat?
Are you even a Muslim?
So now you have a problem with the Islamic Ritual of Zabihat?
Are you even a Muslim?
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:38 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
@Biradar Given you are pretty ignorant of how logical arguments work, let me put it in simple terms. If Point 1 is proven wrong, then it is worthless to go onto Points 2-4. Simple as that. You started off from a false analogy. You lied about history, thinking no one would call you out on your lies....
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:07 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
@Biradar
You completely ignored Point 2 - 4.
You completely ignored Point 2 - 4.
- Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:28 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3870
- Views: 1097258
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
@rational_guy Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah (RA), went to Akbar's court to prove that he is the true Dai. Similarly, Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin (TUS) has gone to the bombay high court to prove that he is the true Dai. What blatant twisting of facts! It wasn't "Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah (RA), we...