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by Liberalguy
Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kothar Could Be "Conservatively" Worth Rs.2 Lakh Crore !!
Replies: 28
Views: 10098

Re: Kothar Could Be "Conservatively" Worth Rs.2 Lakh Crore !!

A really informative post by ghulaam Mohammed bhai. Any media coverage of the issue would be a nice move.
by Liberalguy
Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:21 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Fostership
Replies: 54
Views: 19352

Re: Fostership

The fund raising for fostership has begun. I received a call from an ayaan of jamaat. I told him that he may use the zakaat I have already paid, for the purpose. It is interesting that Mufs spent the first five years in a leadership position collecting mansions for himself and now he wants you and ...
by Liberalguy
Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:07 pm
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: IS IKRAM SO ESSENTIAL DURING DAI'S VISIT ???
Replies: 12
Views: 6819

Re: IS IKRAM SO ESSENTIAL DURING DAI'S VISIT ???

Bro. Dawedaar: Ikram fund as exorbitant as it is, is only the tip of the iceberg. This include Dai's salaam plus all other expenses associated with his arrival, the lighting, the decorations, the horse & buggy (may even be an A/C Buggy), food for the visitors for a few days, and all other ameni...
by Liberalguy
Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why Cults Are Mindless
Replies: 22
Views: 5334

Re: Why Cults Are Mindless

Why such informative and intellectual posts hardly get replies whereas all mindless chatter goes on on stupid posts
by Liberalguy
Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:00 am
Forum: The lighter side
Topic: More insanity...
Replies: 2
Views: 2255

Re: More insanity...

I can post the lisanuddawat version of the original post. ;)
by Liberalguy
Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:22 am
Forum: The lighter side
Topic: More insanity...
Replies: 2
Views: 2255

More insanity...

So the SMS was narrating the shahadat of imam Hussain with adulteration of his own fictional stories he was revealed by Ilham. Suddenly everyone started shouting 'insane! Insane! ' for a moment I was so happy to finally hear everyone say it openly. I even began imagining a revolt by bohras to end th...
by Liberalguy
Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:49 am
Forum: The lighter side
Topic: Breaking News! Bohra Leader Says 'Mai Kharab Chu'
Replies: 0
Views: 1904

Breaking News! Bohra Leader Says 'Mai Kharab Chu'

SMS (Short for Syedna Muffy Saifuddin) confessed he is the bad guy on Oct 29 (6th moharram). He was found saying 'Mai kharab chu' in front of his fans (short for fanatics). The Bohra head uttered the word on 6th day of chest beating ceremony organised in Surat. He said 'mai kharab chu addressing his...
by Liberalguy
Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:01 pm
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Kuwait Jamaat Income & Expense Statement
Replies: 34
Views: 17932

Re: Kuwait Jamaat Income & Expense Statement

Tell people that paint is wet and they'll touch it to believe it. But tell people big grandiose lies and they'll buy it without even blinking their eyes.
Once you have made them believe that a human being has supernatural powers then worldly evidence are useless against them.
by Liberalguy
Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Wajebaats 2014
Replies: 79
Views: 24534

Re: Wajebaats 2014

Okies. The meaning is same but not the word. The author has said nazrul mukam referring to occasion but its actually maqam ie maqam na saheb.
by Liberalguy
Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:54 pm
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Kuwait Jamaat Income & Expense Statement
Replies: 34
Views: 17932

Re: Kuwait Jamaat Income & Expense Statement

watsup msg :- KUWAIT AMIL SAHEBO NA PROFILE LIST :- Salmiya Amil : Full time mobile use in office and no time punctuality. Mumenin always waiting and waiting. Khaitan Amil Taheri : In front of public very mukhlis and shows he doesn't have salams greed but inside jamat he forces them for salams like...
by Liberalguy
Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:46 pm
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Kuwait Jamaat Income & Expense Statement
Replies: 34
Views: 17932

Re: Kuwait Jamaat Income & Expense Statement

Though you're right that the fabricated stories of SMS is much bigger concern, why not leave fabrication and telling lies upto corrupt priesthood and keep this forum clean.
by Liberalguy
Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:23 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Wajebaats 2014
Replies: 79
Views: 24534

Re: Wajebaats 2014

What I Wonder is that if they can make such an autocratic system where there was none, what hope there is that one can dismantle it anyhow. If the authority is so powerful to create it, they can definitely preserve it. The only hope I have is today's information age where it's hard to suppress info ...
by Liberalguy
Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:15 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Wajebaats 2014
Replies: 79
Views: 24534

Re: Wajebaats 2014

It is officially Nazrul Maqaam (AS). Ie nazar (mannat) of maqaam na saheb which refers to Current imam in seclusion. How can someone like you make such a mistake dear Ghulam Mohammad. Well honestly I don't care what they officially say but if you're saying it wrong you can't convince others of your ...
by Liberalguy
Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:46 pm
Forum: Forum issues and feedback
Topic: How you come to know about this forum
Replies: 10
Views: 5272

Re: How you come to know about this forum

I stumbled upon this forum while just googling something related to bohra. I was once a staunch follower and someone who had bought it all. Now I would rather call myself a rationalist and humanist. Question everything.
by Liberalguy
Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:15 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Wajebaats 2014
Replies: 79
Views: 24534

Re: Wajebaats 2014

I survived the fleecing by the clergy this year, my experience was the Aamil tried his level best to scare the crap out of me by saying if i didn't pay the amount that he demanded then Allah will snatch away from me all my wealth and also I may get seriously sick, I will become poor or sick or my h...
by Liberalguy
Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:59 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Wajebaats 2014
Replies: 79
Views: 24534

Re: Wajebaats 2014

I survived the fleecing by the clergy this year, my experience was the Aamil tried his level best to scare the crap out of me by saying if i didn't pay the amount that he demanded then Allah will snatch away from me all my wealth and also I may get seriously sick, I will become poor or sick or my h...
by Liberalguy
Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:49 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramzan Bayaans
Replies: 227
Views: 52194

Re: Ramzan Bayaans

I heard from an Aamil who was previously in Sagwada reciting a bayaan where he said that " Apne ehwu laage che ke Maula toh Laakho and Croro Rupya maange che pan Haqiqat ma Ye apne Paak karva chahe che." I thought what is he saying. I think that Ye apne Paak nathi karta but actually SAAF ...
by Liberalguy
Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:54 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Did Mola ever crack jokes in Bayan?
Replies: 5
Views: 2270

Re: Did Mola ever crack jokes in Bayan?

Lol... That husband wife joke is real cliche. And really it was same joke and same reaction. So pathetic. They really do live in make believe world.
by Liberalguy
Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:29 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Questions for Team SKQ
Replies: 219
Views: 44085

Re: Questions for Team SKQ

Sms or skq.... You are doomed.
by Liberalguy
Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:43 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohras: Wake Up & Stop Being Victims Of "Fear Psychosis"
Replies: 12
Views: 4173

Re: Bohras: Wake Up & Stop Being Victims Of "Fear Psychosis"

The sect or cult is not reformable. It is too late and too complex . The indoctrination has taken root in the DNA . We should expend effort in creating a greener pasture so when they do breakout they have somewhere to land and give those who want to leave an option to rebel or question while in the...
by Liberalguy
Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:50 pm
Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
Topic: Dawudi Bohra’s History and Their Doctrine
Replies: 8
Views: 5572

Re: Dawudi Bohra’s History and Their Doctrine

Wow.. Excellent. My father is Amil and I am a disgruntled believer. Never had opportunity to read actual history of our sect. Can someone throw light on smb and Yusuf najmuddin's character. An analysis of how they control everything in kothar and general bohras. I am asking for something similar to ...
by Liberalguy
Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:07 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohras: Wake Up & Stop Being Victims Of "Fear Psychosis"
Replies: 12
Views: 4173

Re: Bohras: Wake Up & Stop Being Victims Of "Fear Psychosis"

So how one knows that whether bohra clergy is right or wrong. They are asking for money only for the barakat in your rozi and sawaab ma shamil karwana khatir. They are Deen duniya na badshah and can have all the wealth in the world. But the life they are living is way simpler than the life a god on ...
by Liberalguy
Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:10 am
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: About updates in surat jamaat
Replies: 0
Views: 1346

About updates in surat jamaat

As I didn't find any post from surat jamat, I decided to create one. I recently shifted here and wanted to be in touch with latest karigiri of so called khidmat guzars here. Am from conservative family and find it hard to know facts but rather get to hear the abde bulls#**#t. So who are from surat a...
by Liberalguy
Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:44 am
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Jamea refuses to give a transcript
Replies: 12
Views: 6109

Re: Jamea refuses to give a transcript

Am d wiseguy without underscore
by Liberalguy
Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:42 am
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Jamea refuses to give a transcript
Replies: 12
Views: 6109

Re: Jamea refuses to give a transcript

Nothing but indoctrination centre. Jamea from jam'a means gathering.... they collect abdes who indoctrinate others in return. The students here don't respect their teachers. The debates if any are pre concluded. The concept of sallim then sal lim.... means first accept that it is true even before an...
by Liberalguy
Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:56 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Past 2 Dai's era!
Replies: 18
Views: 6350

Re: OPPRESSIVE/DICTATORSHIP ERA OF TAHER SAIFU AND BURHANUDD

Why Bringing it up so late.... lol
He is dead and decomposed.
Worry about the latest claimants and zadas

Am the wiseguy without unserscore... lol
I would change the username if anyone show me how to...
by Liberalguy
Tue May 01, 2012 12:42 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1333
Views: 455548

Re: FEMALE CIRCUMCISION

OMG! This news was allover on 24th. Atleast people knows about it now and hope for change. Kudos to those women. dawn.com/2012/04/23/female-circumcision-anger-aired-in-india-fm/ m.news24.com/news24/World/News/Female-circumcision-anger-aired-in-India-20120425 world.topnewstoday.org/world/article/2093...
by Liberalguy
Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:52 pm
Forum: The lighter side
Topic: All The World's A Stage, (and you have got the front seat).
Replies: 0
Views: 1352

All The World's A Stage, (and you have got the front seat).

Hi, so maybe I was in this shakespearean mood when I was thinking of all the drama and freak show around the world whether its politics, religion or any other domain. However being born within dawoodi bohras, one has his more than fare share of drama and action in life. Actually the intensity and he...
by Liberalguy
Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:52 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Beardophobia: To Shave Or Not To Shave.
Replies: 5
Views: 2456

Re: Beardophobia: To Shave Or Not To Shave.

I think this topic is very relevant and worthy of discussion currently. actually bohras, specially those who belong to orthodox family or live within orthodox environment have to face these two extreme pressure ie on one side orthodox bohra forcing to not even trim it and keeping full fledged beard ...
by Liberalguy
Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:22 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Maatam for mind control and subjugation..
Replies: 302
Views: 62989

Re: Maatam for mind control and subjugation..

the practice of self-inflicted violence, either on an individual basis spurred on by psychological aberrations, or indulged in en masse' and encouraged by the state or religious leaders, is nothing new. there are detailed studies showing its physical and mental effects on society and the purposes f...