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by AgnosticTheist
Fri May 23, 2014 4:33 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Are you serving your objective? a serious question to all
Replies: 11
Views: 2149

Re: Are you serving your objective? a serious question to al

@here4truth-But in order to bring a change in the system you need to first accept the system. now where in the world this statement come from....you don't have to accept the system at all. The system is being corrupted to the core by the kothar and gang....no rational human being will accept this c...
by AgnosticTheist
Wed May 21, 2014 3:35 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2471
Views: 566296

Re: London hostpital nass video and audio

true_bohra wrote:This is strange that any body who puts contrary view becomes Kothari agent or member of Kothar.
Bhai, that happens because anyone who questions Dai or Jamaat becomes a Qafir.
by AgnosticTheist
Tue May 13, 2014 7:06 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Horrific Violence In Assam, Muslims Targeted.
Replies: 17
Views: 2111

Re: Horrific Violence In Assam, Muslims Targeted.

killing of muslims who recite kalematus shadat and follows Quraan and sunnah is of no concern for you? if this is your attitude then I am so glad tyrant like muffy crushes bohras like u under his feet, this is ALLAH's punishment for you guys. Those Muslims recite kalematus shadat and follows Quraan...
by AgnosticTheist
Fri May 09, 2014 3:20 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Large scale shuffle of Aamils?
Replies: 8
Views: 2294

Re: Large scale shuffle of Aamils?

I heard that it is not shuffling but they got the orders to simply leave. There won't be any replacements for now. Something fishy going on.
by AgnosticTheist
Thu May 08, 2014 9:21 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: How to do Mola ma araz?
Replies: 31
Views: 8902

Re: How to do Mola ma araz?

Anyone believing that an email sent via hawaij or arzi done via any other electronic means reaches the Dai is fooling himself/herself.

The only way to make sure that the Dai hears your arzi is doing it personally. And for that you need... you know what.
by AgnosticTheist
Thu May 08, 2014 5:07 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 357864

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Not sure about other cities, but in our city/mohalla the tiffin comes with limited amount of food. By limited I mean that it can feed just 2 or 3 adults. No matter how big your family is, they give the same size tiffin to everyone. Because of this a lot of women have to cook both the times because a...
by AgnosticTheist
Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:25 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 357864

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

@Abde53 - The Saheb e Dawat tradition is nothing new. It his documented in many Dawat History books. Off head, Syedi AbdulQadir Hakimuddin (Burhanpur) was also sent for as Saheb e Dawat many times. There are many other examples as well. I can understand a few Saheb e Dawats (who were really worthy ...
by AgnosticTheist
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:41 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohras in the media
Replies: 249
Views: 53829

Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

Real Fateh Mubeen starts now
I think it means that SKQ camp has started their journey to victory. Whereas the whatsapp message suggests that the game is over and SMS won already. See the difference?
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:41 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 357864

Re: Just a HUNCH.

My hunch says that they want to grab and loot as much as possible before they are thrown out. This is the reason why royal beggars (read Saheb-e-Dawat) are visiting each and every house to collect as much as possible.
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:52 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 357864

Re: Mufaddali Defense Waez against women

Trust you to twist words and make a mountain out of a molehill. It is not surprising to see that you have latched onto the word " IT " and not call center which was the core of the bayan.The gist was that he was against mumineen working in call center. And he gave perfect reasons behind it . It is ...
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:39 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Saifee Mahal is valued at a minimum Rs.1,000 crores
Replies: 23
Views: 4780

Re: Saifee Mahal is valued at a minimum Rs.1,000 crores

The King of KSA lives like a king because he is a bloody king. He OWNS vast amount of oil fields. Who is our Dai to live like a king? Dai was never a king in ismaili doctrines, and never possessed vast amounts of property before the 51st. Real saints have always lived in poverty. Please name 5 real...
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:20 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
Replies: 169
Views: 23788

Re: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!

Maybe if you stopped abusing us, we might actually have a decent conversation where you don't just resort to these paid lacky' or a 'bonded slave' insults and we won't simply say Maula ni Shaan (even though it's true) As far as I know the abuse started from SMS side with the endless laanats in majl...
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:25 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 454076

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

A mumin is one who has an "aqeedat" which he holds firm. That firm aqeeda is that "For not a split second is the zameen void of hujjat of Khuda ta who is Haq" -> which implies no Imam will pass on without appointing his janasheen who is his hamshaan. In zaman of Satr the same holds for the Dai mutl...
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:14 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
Replies: 169
Views: 23788

Re: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!

Ane aa nariyalo ni varsat kari ne Aqa Maula TUS yeh apan adna mumin par karam ane ehsaan farmaayu che. Aa ehsaan to apna khaalo ni jooti banavi ne bhi nahi utri sake.
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:11 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 54689

Re: Shias and Sunnis

It never is. For the people of today who are letting bygones be bygones , lets start with Iblees . I mean thousand of years ago , Iblees refused to do sajdah to Adam allegedly and till today we have a problem with him regarding this . Lets bury the hatchet. Stop with all the cursing on Iblees for h...
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:01 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Logical Reasons for not beleiving Shezada Mufaddal Saifuddin
Replies: 94
Views: 14103

Re: Logical Reasons for not beleiving Shezada Mufaddal Saifu

The Fatemi Dawat tag line is not chosen exclusively by SKQ. I was under impression that all the Imams and Dais were preaching Fatemi Dawat. Weren't they? Did you hear the word Fatemi Dawat for the first time as a tag line from SKQ? Don't you remember the endless Naaras in masjids "Fatemi Dawat Zind...
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:35 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 54689

Re: Shias and Sunnis

We lets all start today and see how easy it is to not curse the revered ones All the reverence went out of the park when the culprits disobeyed the Prophet SAW and gathered in Saqifah to plot and lead people astray till Qayamat. Bohra Spring was correct. It is not simple till we have people like th...
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Logical Reasons for not beleiving Shezada Mufaddal Saifuddin
Replies: 94
Views: 14103

Re: Logical Reasons for not beleiving Shezada Mufaddal Saifu

A domain name can be purchased by anyone for any purpose. It can then be transferred to any other person at any time with the creation date still being the old one (prior to transfer). Who knows for what purpose this domain name was registered and by whom? Also SKQ was a part of Fatemi Dawat till S...
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:59 am
Forum: The lighter side
Topic: Maulvi Sahab Jannat Mein.
Replies: 5
Views: 1851

Re: Maulvi Sahab Jannat Mein.

The last 2 couplet describes kothar perfectly!
by AgnosticTheist
Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:36 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Logical Reasons for not beleiving Shezada Mufaddal Saifuddin
Replies: 94
Views: 14103

Re: Logical Reasons for not beleiving Shezada Mufaddal Saifu

yes this is why he didnt declared, but remaining prepared is not wrong as per farmaan of SMB. It would be a hard sell to say that he himself registered the website without anyone assisting him. :roll: A domain name can be purchased by anyone for any purpose. It can then be transferred to any other ...
by AgnosticTheist
Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:51 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: What exactly is tawil na bayaan
Replies: 16
Views: 2815

Re: What exactly is tawil na bayaan

Whenever I try to explain anything to my family members and try to argue with logic abt benefits of SKQ.( Can you please put forward the arguments here ? Do not derail the topic. This topic is not about the SKQ v/s SMS. He mentioned SKQ v/s SMS just to highlight the Tawil thing. If you have somethi...
by AgnosticTheist
Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:04 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taziat....What is next?
Replies: 132
Views: 12788

Re: Taziat....What is next?

You forgot to shed some light on the two phrases I wrote above: Of course, here Maula doesn't mean any Prophets, Imams or previous Dais. And just to save you trouble, the first phrase above is not written anywhere. It is what Abdes claim and I think was one of the placards in the recent milad julus...
by AgnosticTheist
Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:02 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: succession video removed
Replies: 150
Views: 21982

Re: succession video removed

anajmi wrote:Point to be noted is that this video was originally posted by the SKQ camp. Now, if the nuss was clearly made to SMS in this video, then why would SKQ post the video?
And to add to it, why would SMS ask it to be removed by claiming copyright?
by AgnosticTheist
Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taziat....What is next?
Replies: 132
Views: 12788

Re: Taziat....What is next?

Alright , I am limiting my reply to your comparison between Maula and Maa. You forgot to shed some light on the two phrases I wrote above: Maula na qadmo na neeche daulat che Maa na qadmo na neeche jannat che Of course, here Maula doesn't mean any Prophets, Imams or previous Dais. And just to save ...
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:15 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taziat....What is next?
Replies: 132
Views: 12788

Re: Taziat....What is next?

What has elders and teachers got to do with this ? Don't beat around the bush. Put up straight-forwarded questions and you would be rewarded with straight answers. I see you have failed miserably with zinger , Do you disagree that folding hands is a sign of respect ? Looks like you failed to read t...
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:02 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taziat....What is next?
Replies: 132
Views: 12788

Re: Taziat....What is next?

We wished our teacher "Good morning teacher" every day but folded hands on special occasions like teachers day and took their blessings after my exams Do you do salam to your parent every day on certain occasions??? Please feel free to drag it as long as you like So if you wished orally to your tea...
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:38 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taziat....What is next?
Replies: 132
Views: 12788

Re: Taziat....What is next?

Yes, i not only folded my hands but also touched the feet of my teachers when i succeeded in my 10th board exams Do you always fold hands in front of your teachers and elders or occasionally? Did you do it on all days of your school or only after you passed 10th? Well nevermind. No point in draggin...
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:57 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taziat....What is next?
Replies: 132
Views: 12788

Re: Taziat....What is next?

true_bohra wrote:yes we do respect our elders and teachers.

Our Dai has taught us to perform salaam to our elders, kiss our parents' feet and be humble to them.
The keyword here was "folded hands".
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:22 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taziat....What is next?
Replies: 132
Views: 12788

Re: Taziat....What is next?

Actual Taziyat is given by hugging (sort of) three times. SMS is not doing that at all, so it cannot be called taziyat. What people are made to do is just form a queue and walk in front of him with folded hands. They are calling this Taziyat (the azeemus shaan sharaf). It is due to time constraints...
by AgnosticTheist
Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:17 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
Replies: 169
Views: 23788

Re: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!

M Taha wrote:read ayat 2:18 you will get it, why you are not able to understand this clear thing. :D
Because we are not able to understand Quran at all :)