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- Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:17 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Immam Husain(a.s.) shahadat bayan ,matam & marasiya
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4146
Re: Immam Husain(a.s.) shahadat bayan ,matam & marasiya
I have question arise in my mind that is there any evidence or any where written that after shahadat of Immam Hussain(a.s.) any Immam recite shahadat bayyan , matam & marasiya in masjid?Up to 21 Imam after Immam Hussain(a.s.) did these in Masjid?Please any of our knowledgeable forum member have...
- Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:21 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 44219
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Salaams brother Javed, There is no compulsion in religion, so our bohra brethren have their own free choice to make. We are only trying to make them aware of the realities & the truth. I myself was a bohra & am now a follower of the Shia Imamiyya school; this was after alot of reading &...
- Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:18 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: History and credibility of the journey of Bohra ideology
- Replies: 43
- Views: 16998
Re: History and credibility of the journey of Bohra ideology
what about the tons of works compiled by the classical Shi'a scholars that deal with the issue if Mahdaviyyat? All such work is forged post the death of Hasan Askari sahib. And no literature before his death contains any grains on happening of only 12 Imams and 12th being Mahdi! You claim that your...
- Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:25 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
- Replies: 99
- Views: 26711
Re: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
Jawedjuma, There was no "nuss" done by 11th Ithna Imam Hz. Hasan Askari sahib over his "imaginary" or non-imaginary son Hz. Mohammad sahib! This info is per your Usul Kafi and others! The dispute between Ismaili's and Ithna is over the nuss by the Imam Sadik a.s.! So you see ther...
- Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:12 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
- Replies: 99
- Views: 26711
Re: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
Actually imam ali or hassan or hussain till jafar sadik had no clue what fatimi dawat is. Fabricating own assumptions and considering it as true Islam! That is what make you and Yazeed, Awwal, Sani and Salis alike. It was created long after them. It was created when Mola Ali a.s. was announced Prop...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:47 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
- Replies: 99
- Views: 26711
Re: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
Please quote your sources. If you have Fatimi Dawat literature in your possession, please quote the author and the book. Book: Uyunal Akhbar by 19th Dai mutlaq Syyedna Idrees a.q. I provided you the link about Imam Muizz's wife who was a Christian. Here it is again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:04 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
- Replies: 99
- Views: 26711
Re: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
Molatina Shaharbanu per Fatimi Dawat literature was Muslima before the conquest of Iran, and Mola Ali a.s. took part in Iran war to get her rescued. I thought you would provide a long version of your history alongwith evidence to demolish the claim of the scholar who states that Shere banu didn't e...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:24 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
- Replies: 99
- Views: 26711
Re: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
And since I am not using any violence, I can safely say that Fatimi Dawat literature is nothing more than mythology. You live in 'fools paradise' of your own defective thoughts which you assumes to be (self created) dogmas of Islam. Most of your Siha-Sitta is collection of forgery and lies to con p...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:13 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
- Replies: 154
- Views: 34856
Re: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
Prove above? Here is the proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagar_in_Islam I would appreciate it if you could prove from your sources she was not a handmaiden or concubine. Thanks. This is how Ithna Asheri trick 'religion thrill seeker' like yourself, who do not think or research further deep than...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:53 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
- Replies: 154
- Views: 34856
Re: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
However, most Ulema agree that Khizr was not a human but probably an angel in human form. Hence , ......... Q1. Who authorise them as 'ulema'? When your Awwal, Sani and Salis themselves are not authorise by Prophet Mohammad (s). Q2. " Probably " - you have made your personal thinking (haw...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:24 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
- Replies: 99
- Views: 26711
Re: Fatimi Imams from Muslima, all others only from bondmaid!
Molatina Shaharbanu per Fatimi Dawat literature was Muslima before the conquest of Iran, and Mola Ali a.s. took part in Iran war to get her rescued. Few forum members have alleged mother of some of the Imam were non-Muslima - please provide the proof? Where is proof! No proof! But the Ithna's own Ay...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:00 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
- Replies: 154
- Views: 34856
Re: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
Please quote the chapter and verse number for above.fayyaaz wrote:Now, if you interpret Quran correctly, you will find that a Bohra Dai has a higher status than either the Prophet or the Imam. Dai is Ilahul ard which places him only slightly below Allah.
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:58 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
- Replies: 154
- Views: 34856
Re: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
Allah has established the fallibility of these imams in the quran itself. Bohras normally quote the ayah about Allah ordering believers to obey Allah, his prophet (saw) and those in authority. They use this ayah to justify their idol worship. However, the exact same ayah solves the problem too. But...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:47 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
- Replies: 154
- Views: 34856
Re: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
Musa (as) was born to a jewish slave. He is amongst the greatest prophet of Allah, mentioned more times in the Quran than any other prophet. His status is greater than any Imam ever born or any Imam that will ever be born. Allah doesn't select his Imams and prophets based upon the status of their m...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:44 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
- Replies: 154
- Views: 34856
Re: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
Prove above?JavedhJuma wrote:
Hey, Hazarat Ishmail AS (Hazarat Ibrahim's son) was born of a concubine!
- Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:27 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
- Replies: 154
- Views: 34856
Re: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
Bohraism has its own fabricated and distorted versions of history duly twisted to suit their leader's agenda and hence they are NEVER available for scrutiny Prove your statement above, please. How many years and kilometres have you invested to search for Fatimi Dawat literature that it still remain...
- Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:02 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: History and credibility of the journey of Bohra ideology
- Replies: 43
- Views: 16998
Re: History and credibility of the journey of Bohra ideology
@ Ozdundee, Books and notes of Prophet Mohammad PBUH, Mola Ali a.s., Imam Hasan a.s., Imam Hussain a.s., Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s., Imam Bakir a.s. and Imam Jaffer Sadik a.s., their important belongings; including the sword of Mola Ali a.s. (the Zulfiquar) - these all are inherited by none but on...
- Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:34 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Islam and shirk are opposites
- Replies: 22
- Views: 4281
Re: Islam and shirk are opposites
Allah cannot be comprehended, fall in human brain (cannot understand Allah), so no one can make anyone or anything as partner with Allah! Shirk mean making partner: with authorised nominee of Prophet/Imam of Allah. None of the siha-sitta books have not even a single tradition that says Prophet has a...
- Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:44 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: dai mul islam
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2186
Re: dai mul islam
Kindly provide proof on which you based your thinking above?ghulam muhammed wrote:I think there are 2 versions of the same, one which the Ismailis follow and the other which Bohras follow.
- Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:13 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Women In Muslim World Taking The Fast Track To Change
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2537
Re: Women In Muslim World Taking The Fast Track To Change
All examples cited by you are result of democratically elected public servants (not Islamic servants) by votes of every citizen of their respective places including votes from non-Muslims and their appointments are not by the state governed by Islamic caliphate model. And also all your examples are ...
- Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:15 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Women In Muslim World Taking The Fast Track To Change
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2537
Re: Women In Muslim World Taking The Fast Track To Change
In the last fourteen hundred years no sect in Islam have ever given any formal office (hierarchy title) to any women!!! Unfortunately no Islamic sect have ever given any respect to or trusted women! EXCEPT: Fatimi Dawat. Only we are the maslaq who made women "Governor" of entire country, M...
- Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:32 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Aga Khan to invest $1bn in East Africa Education
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1492
- Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:58 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowledge
- Replies: 68
- Views: 14285
Re: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowledge
As per Dawoodi Bohras doctrines Imam Hasan is Mustoda Imam i.e. under the authority of his younger sibling Imam Hussain a.s. who is Mustaqar Imam. Both Mola Ali a.s. and Imam Hussain a.s. are Mustaqar Imam - so in the chain of Mustaqar Imamat the baton passed from Ali to Hussain. Mustoda Imam, Dai B...
- Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:37 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowledge
- Replies: 68
- Views: 14285
Re: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowle
How above point proves Hz. Musa Kazim succeeded Imam Ismail a.s. or if Hz. Musa Kazim is rightful Imam?lawgraduate wrote:Imam Hassan transferred his Imammat to Imam Hussain(s) matter is closed. it is well documented in many books, both were haq naa Imam.
- Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:35 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowledge
- Replies: 68
- Views: 14285
Re: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowle
Chalo ek baar mein tumhari baat maan leta hu ki ismail was Imam, so now who is Imam e zamana? if imam is not present and in purdah who is in his seat? whom do you believe at this moment as a leader? Allah's appointed son's in the progeny of Imam Ismail a.s. is the current era Imam-uz-zaman. Imam se...
- Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:30 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowledge
- Replies: 68
- Views: 14285
Re: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowle
Where have I said, "I agree...."? It is Ithna Asheri's book that makes such claims - Ithna's own book contends: Imamat cannot be transferred from Imam Ismail a.s. to his brother Hz. Musa Kazim.
- Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:22 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowledge
- Replies: 68
- Views: 14285
Re: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowle
Imam Hassan (A) transferred his Imamat to Imam Hussain(A) his brother. isnt it funny that we are talking about Imammat and you are giving examples of nubuwat? Following two prominent Ithna Asheri's book: Osool-a-Kafi and Bihar-ul-Anwaar says: Hasan and Hussain are the only two brothers who shared I...
- Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:37 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowledge
- Replies: 68
- Views: 14285
Re: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowle
[*] Prophet Ibrahim (Grand father - is alive), [*] Prophet Ismail (son of Prophet Ibrahim - died in life of Ibrahim), [*] Prophet Kezar became next prophet, succeeding Ibrahim. [*] Prophethood passed from grandfather to Kezar (grandson) and not to Prophet Ismail's brother. --------------------------...
- Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:03 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowledge
- Replies: 68
- Views: 14285
Re: Disconnected Ismaili History - for those who seek knowle
Bismillah, Can a son succeed his father and become the next “Living Imam” (or Hazar Imam) if the son predeceases the father? If not, then those who call themselves as Shia Ismailis have to think harder before calling themselves the followers of Imam Ismail who did not live long enough to become the...
- Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:03 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Correct Shadi ki 14 sharte (14 terms of right marriage)
- Replies: 96
- Views: 123553
Re: Correct Shadi ki 14 sharte (14 terms of right marriage)
Muslim First bhai,Muslim First wrote:Brothers 6'U and H_S_U
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