Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Walaikum Assalaam Bro Muslim First We are doing fine Alhumdulillah. Haven't been checking this forum. Was looking for a discussion that we had way back in 2006 with porus and the others and hence logged in. Glad to know you are ok. Not sure when you might login to check again.

When Rasulullah started preaching, he faced many hardships.. one of the toughest challenges he faced were in Taif where the locals over there injured him very badly. He was resting by a tree when someone, at the instruction of Muhammed bin Al Waleed offered the prophet 18 grapes. The prophet thanke...

Bro Biradar gave the answers to the questions but his answers were simply due to "Most of us are born into the belief system which we keep for the rest of our lives. We don't do analysis and then determine which course to take, as by the time we are mentally capable of this, our minds are alrea...

I do check in once in a while.

That is an idiotic argument. It is like saying that since Abu Jahal remained a kafir then by logic (more specifically, YOUR logic) the prophet (saw) has failed to deliver the message of Islam!!! Your analogy does not apply at all. Think about it. The argument made is court is about the survival of ...

The same applies for Dai al-Mutlaq; if the Imam has gone into satr then his representatives, the Dais (once again by Fatimid theology) must also carry on through nass until when the Imam returns from satr. If you are saying that the Imams and Dais have failed to establish a clear nass, then by logi...

They also strategically isolated Syedna especially towards the end of his reign, preventing true reports from every reaching him. So the bohra claim that the Dai is ghaib na jaankar is a lie correct? 2) This goes fundamentally against Fatimid ideology and logic. If the people are left without any c...

It is amazing how the Shia of Ali consists only of the ignorant and the blind!!

So people are aware of things he did not declare? First If he didn't declare it, how do you know about it? Second, if he didn't declare it, there was a reason behind it. Maybe he didn't want people to celebrate it. And yet, bohras have gone against the will of the prophet (saw)!!! and Third, the quo...

So what you are saying is that the quote attributed to Imam Jafar As Sadiq that

Allah has not sent any prophet but that he celebrated this day as Eid and was aware of its sanctity.

is a fabrication correct?

There is no evidence of the prophet having celebrated this day as Eid. This day was celebrated as Eid long after the death of the prophet (saw). Not even Ali or his sons celebrated this day as Eid. If they did, provide your evidence. Second, 5:3 - this verse was revealed on the day of Arafah of the ...

Yes. This ayah is in the Quran. Surah 49 Ayah 14 قَالَتِ ٱلْأَعْرَابُ ءَامَنَّا ۖ قُل لَّمْ تُؤْمِنُوا۟ وَلَٰكِن قُولُوٓا۟ أَسْلَمْنَا وَلَمَّا يَدْخُلِ ٱلْإِيمَٰنُ فِى قُلُوبِكُمْ ۖ وَإِن تُطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ لَا يَلِتْكُم مِّنْ أَعْمَٰلِكُمْ شَيْـًٔا ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ The...

. Note that as Walker mentions, the very fact of performing nass is a validation of an Imam. Hence, an Imam can not pass away without designating a successor. (BTW: This does not mean, as Ahmed Ali Raj in a lecture implied, that an imam can't die if he has not appointed a successor. It simply means...

.Allah has not sent any prophet but that he celebrated this day as Eid and was aware of its sanctity.

There is no evidence of the prophet (saw) having celebrated this day as eid. There are only two Eids and one is not allowed to fast on those days.

God isn't killing innocents around the world dropping MOABS!!. "Reasonable" humans are fool. When will this fool wake up?

If one does tafakkur and tadabbur on this article one would realize much of what the author is suggesting is fiction and not in line with anything the prophet (saw) has taught. The author takes mighty leaps. Let me give you an example He recites an ayah of the Quran "Do they not think over the ...

Why are you interested in the women's faces? Their names are there which means they will be available at the conference for the women folk. It is time to move onto a full pant from a half Chaddi.

Couldn't view the file. But I fully agree with him. If all muslims are terrorists according to half Chaddis then all atheists can be terrorists according to full white robes.

The half chaddi sympathizer posting crap from the jewish mouthpiece. Big surprise!!!

Personally, I do not agree there is any merit in judging one taawil against another but agree to a comparative study of all of them. Study them in the light of the Quran. That way you will save time and effort. The crap, like that from the bohra clergy about Dais being the rivers of honey and milk,...

Contradicting yourself is an art as developed by the taawilers on this board. First there was porus and then there is fayyaaz. Let me just point out a couple. I saw dozens in his post. There is no sanity involved in accusing others of raising humans to divine, whatever that means. and then That Dais...

You are right. No hard feelings. Whatever information I have gathered over the years has been because of people like Biradar and others. For example, I went back and bought the book he suggested. Most of the times to prove myself right but at the same time I started learning about Islam and Quran.

fayyaaz and biradar, oh you guys are so cute together. Anyone who has the benefit of a high school education knows that the primary component of life is Carbon. So according to fayyaaz, neither the writer of the Quran nor the bohra Taawil (i.e. Ali) have the benefit of high school education. Brillia...

I thought sister Nafisa would try to plug the hole in the story but instead, she is trying to get rid of the 18 wheeler!!

BTW: If you examine any complete tafsir of the Qur'an you will notice that every single verse is throughly explained. So, if the meaning of some verses was only with Allah, how come the interpreter who has composed the tafsir explained every single verse? There is a difference between tafseer and t...

And the reason bohra clergy refuses to put down the taawil in writing because they don't want to be called out on it. They have been fooling bohras with their taawil for decades. None of the bohras are actually firmly grounded in knowledge and hence it is really easy to fool them. For example, look ...

The meaning of "divine knowledge" here is that of knowledge which is deeper than the mere surface meanings of verses and external reality. Then do not refer to it as divine knowledge. Do you know the reason why you refer to it as divine knowledge? To make your own selves divine. That is u...

You forget that Christians have basically been burned out of the Middle East where it was born Which is a good sign. Those Christians converted to Islam and they are now on the right path. Even in the USA we are converting deserted unused churches into flourishing mosques. It is a good sign. The Ch...

Insult you? No. I just figured you out. You are a Satan worshiper.

However, the earlier video in this series did give a short explanation of part of another verse. i.e. Qur'an 21:30, where he explains the word "water" as divine knowledge and "life" as eternal life (i.e. in the hereafter). Hence, the interpretation that "we [Allah] have cre...