Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Agree with SBM Bhai/bhen.
Tired by Al-Noor useless posts on this forum.

humanbeing wrote:what about his successorship .. who did he confirm nass upon ! I hope he did a clear and unambigious nass !

He did nass upon his first son and Mazoon (Haatim Zakiyuddin Saheb) many years before.

when kids run away with mother they had kept videos denouncing mufadal on you tube and suddenly that also got deleted....KQ is confused wants to do so many things but have no means or strategy to accomplish it. always amazed by such posts on public forums. Do you think KQ's camp or MS's camp are so...

The Dai and Mansoos are considered one. = First Rutba Mazoon and Mukasir are Second & Third Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin was Mazoon and Mansoos, like many of our previous Duat. So why a Mansoos, who is considered as the highest rutba according to you (Mansoos = Dai), will endorse a lower rutba? ...

can someone explain what are those "degrees" ?

next_generation2014 wrote:

court_order2_18March2015_.pdf

Documents submitted by KQ and MS in Bombay high court

download/file.php?id=1569

Araz bhai, please meet a psychiatrist.

Qadir wrote:There is a prophecy that the rightful successor of a dai will only dafan him and no one has the right or power to do this task.

not all the Dai were buried by their Mansoos.

Not that I want to put too much emphasis, but there is no need to assume a heliocentric view to design a precise calendar system. This can be done (and was done) with geocentric theories too. Agree, it's possible. I just wanted to emphasize the Arabs solid knowledge in astronomy during Middle-Age. ...

Arab and persian scientists were among the best of their time. Imam Hakim (AS) was one of the first muslim caliph to build an astronomy observatory (11th century) regarding the mathematical precision of the Fatimid Calendar, I really doubt that they thought that Earth was the center of the universe....

Adam wrote:
Simple. Go back to Rasulullah's time. 1, 2, 3 were kept in VERY high positions. And Rasulullah knew very well they were wrong.

Same statement is valid for all hudood, including Mukasir and Shehzada...

Qutbi or not, Mazoon is higher rutbah than Mukasir. Period.

Do you forget the hindu guy who came to Masjid during Khtamul Quran majlis to declare SMS Dai?

Adam has more knowledge than the Dai itself...
as usual, no solid reference...

Catholic Church is 2000 years old and through periods of worse problems than ours. It took thousands years to have a Pope like Francis. We are living the same black period they had during the 14th and 15th century : corrupt popes and clergy, schisms, bloody war, ... and all in the name of Nabi Isa ...

There is a second version : Ismail AS death was staged by his Father to protect him. Ismail AS died after his father. Nass cannot be retracted. An Imam is born Imam. Ja'far Imam AS did nass upon Ismail AS. So Ismail AS is Imam and imamat should remain in his lineage. He died before or after his fath...

WHAT AM I MISSING HERE? ISNT IT A SHAME FOR A PERSON WHO CALLS HIMSELF REPRESENTATIVE OF IMAM ALI(S)? http://time.com/3594846/pope-francis-fiat-raffle-charity/ Catholic Church is 2000 years old and through periods of worse problems than ours. It took thousands years to have a Pope like Francis. We ...

I was talking about music. Do not change the subject.

and during Fatimid Imam reign in Misr, there were banquets and festivities where music was allowed.

there are no ayat in Quran where music is forbidden. The hadiths are reported out of context. Besides, I do not know their authenticity. In fact, as far as i know, only the lyre was banned by the Prophet SWT since in pre-Islamic arabic society, this instrument was supposed to keep away evil spirits....

Post a hadith where Rasulalallah SWT had forbidden music and celebrate birthday. Post a kalam where Ali AS had forbidden music and celebrate birthday. Post a kalam where one of our Fatemi Imam AS had forbidden music and celebrate birthday. action is bigger than kalaam, can you post any incident in ...

Music is forbidden too in Islam? Rasulullah played music and recommended it? can you please post that hadith please? if that exists? Post a hadith where Rasulalallah SWT had forbidden music and celebrate birthday. Post a kalam where Ali AS had forbidden music and celebrate birthday. Post a kalam wh...

lawgraduate wrote:today band baja tomorrow hathi ghoda and then the evil cycle of show off will continue....

Music is forbidden too in Islam?

There is not a single instance when ahlul bayt celebrated birthdays with dhol tamasha and band baja, I understand this is occasion of khushi for his followers, but there are many ways to keep it low profile and make it more Islamic. more Islamic? what is more Islamic? Is it forbidden to celebrate a...

The Alavi belief (and website), and Syedna Taher Saifuddin's court case both confirm the same. (Ref: Court Case of 1928) Ali bin Ibrahim WAS the Mazoon. The two sects differ as follows - Dawoodi Bohras say he was the Mazoon and then removed, and then turned bad. - Alavi Bohras say he was the Mazoon...

How does the fact of KQ being mazoon negate the fact of Ali bin ibrahim being mazoon and then removed? Immature logic. Maybe your Imam Adid will help you. You misunderstand as usual. It's your immature logic : 1) KQ mazoon and Ali ibn Ibrahim removed from mazoon rutbah are two differents points. 2)...

Adam, you are lying as usual hiding behind 1 or 2 so called references. Please give us precise reference.
Read Alavi version on their website.

Fact = Kq was SMB mazoon until his demise. Period.

no cake ?

araz5253 wrote:he was a pure and true Muslim atleast tried to be

so what is pure Muslim ?
Auranzeb and like your other Wahabi friends : intolerance towards other religion? decapitate your opposants because they are Shia? is this true Islam for you?

And actually it proves that none of the dawedars were true nor recieved any "taed" from Imam,, they were making things up to fool the poor gullible bohras. Untill a Jafarbhai came and reformed most of the bohras to Sunni Islam. Actually this goes ever earlier , as even the so called later...