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by Sceptical
Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:41 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1055815

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Nass is conferred with "ilham e Allah", so it cannot be revoked. This is my understanding. This is why we follow Imam Ismail AS instead of Musa Kadhim because we believe that Nass was conferred Upon him, even if he would have died before Imam Jafar AS . Same exemple of Nass conferred upon ...
by Sceptical
Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:35 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1055815

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

zinger wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:51 am
1. the side of MS has proven that nass "can" change and it has in the past
What are their evidences or examples?
by Sceptical
Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1055815

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

As salam alaykum, I am coming back to the original topic on succession. I do not live in India and have limited knowledge of the Indian legal system. My questions : - How independent is the Indian justice system? SMS is very close to Modi, so how impartial can we expect? - The risk for STF is great ...
by Sceptical
Fri May 27, 2022 5:05 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics
Replies: 744
Views: 272390

Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics

SMS has just left Madagascar. As usual, everything seems to have been about money... from what I could get as information... ziafat, pagla, najwa, ... However, he was supposed to go to Mayotte and the trip was abruptly cancelled without any explanation even though the preparations seem to have been ...
by Sceptical
Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:04 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Protest Against Mufaddal's Visit
Replies: 17
Views: 8805

Re: Protest Against Mufaddal's Visit

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by Sceptical
Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
Replies: 1857
Views: 516008

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya

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by Sceptical
Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:04 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Historical accounts of Karbala
Replies: 48
Views: 10107

Re: Historical accounts of Karbala

1) No. Each cycle has its own “Adam”. The Adam of our era is not the same as Adam on another era, obviously, and the First Adam is unique and clearly also not the same as the prophet Adam of this era. Thanks for your reply. Could you please develop ? Adam nabi (AS) is not the first man created by G...
by Sceptical
Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:06 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Historical accounts of Karbala
Replies: 48
Views: 10107

Re: Historical accounts of Karbala

Could someone please enlighten me on these two points (according to our ismail tayebi beliefs) :

1) Are Adam (AS) - I mean the first prophet - and Adam-e-kuli the same person?

2) I have often heard that Adam AS was mustadaeen imam. So had a Mustakar Imam existed at the same time?

Thank you.
by Sceptical
Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:37 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Historical accounts of Karbala
Replies: 48
Views: 10107

Re: Historical accounts of Karbala

Thank you for sharing. I have listened to the vaez on both sides. I learned in 1 day from STF what would have taken me an eternity on the SMS side. What shocks me more and more is the zikr of Shahadat. It's getting worse and worse. Shahadat by SMS is worthy of the worst Hollywood movie scripts with ...
by Sceptical
Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:40 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 813
Views: 353458

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

The existence of God can not be proven by the scientific method, nor his non-existence. Fact : Scientific theory shows that our universe could appear without the need of a creator. Reasoning by analogy (chair therefore creator, universe therefore creator) leads to errors of logic. The only point I a...
by Sceptical
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1055815

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Clearly, in the early years of SMB's reign there was a lot of love between Muffy, Qaid Johar (aka Qaid Chor) and SQK, as many letters they exchanged prove. Hence, the argument "talwaaro chali jaase" is weak. Clearly, Muffy and Qaid Johar were not the one to chalaoo talwaar on SKQ. I'm pre...
by Sceptical
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:56 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 813
Views: 353458

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

And the Fermi Lab anecdote: this proves once again that some people have absolutely no understanding of how science works. I agree with brother Biradar. The arguments are not convincing in light of recent scientific advances : in fact, I find them particularly weak. God is just a matter of faith. Th...
by Sceptical
Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
Replies: 1857
Views: 516008

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Qadir wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:43 pm Zaydis killed Imam Aamir. Yes they did not go to court, they killed the true imam.
I am so disgusted by your post.
Imam Aamir AS was killed by Nizaris, not Zaydis.
by Sceptical
Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:58 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics
Replies: 744
Views: 272390

Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018

Yes, it's confirmed. The appointement was done during Milad waez.
by Sceptical
Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:03 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 813
Views: 353458

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

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by Sceptical
Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:58 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1439 - Karachi, Pakistan
Replies: 67
Views: 41786

Re: Ashara 1439 - Karachi, Pakistan

And fake propaganda... This kind of messages are circulating around the wolrd on Whatsapp... http://www.thedawoodibohras.com/na_ui.aspx?type=News&article_id=64 17 September 2017 Prominent Sunni scholar, Moulana Tariq Jamil saheb, Archbishop Joseph Coutts and Rector of St Patrick's Cathedral Fath...
by Sceptical
Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:17 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Open Letter STF to SMS
Replies: 26
Views: 15504

Re: Open Letter STF to SMS

How did the hospital know that SMB was without water or food for 48 hours? Is there a test that can be done? May be some doctors can shed some light? Or, is it based on the oral history of the caregivers? If so, who told the hospital doctors? Dr. Moiz, some son of SMB? 1/ In cromwell hospital video...
by Sceptical
Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:05 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Open Letter STF to SMS
Replies: 26
Views: 15504

Re: Open Letter STF to SMS

This letter should have been translated in other languages (Gujrati, Urdu, French, ...). Not all Bohra understand english.
by Sceptical
Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:13 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 173452

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

Has anyone noticed that MS dawat has started to give importance to fitnati YN. In the Maulatena Hurratul Maleka Urus the local Amil here mentioned how great YN was and how he was head of Jamia etc. This is second time I have noticed they gave special mention to YN. I don't ever recall anyone mentio...
by Sceptical
Mon May 23, 2016 12:25 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: what happened on the 15th of shabaan and why this long prayer.
Replies: 5
Views: 6753

Re: what happened on the 15th of shabaan and why this long prayer.

It's the auspicious night when Allah instructed Prophet (swt) to pray face the Kaaba, instead of Masjid-al-Aqsa (Jerusalem).
by Sceptical
Sun May 22, 2016 4:48 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016
Replies: 1065
Views: 440260

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

“Science is always wrong. It never solves a problem without creating 10 more.” - George Bernard Shaw. Hundreds of proven theories in science, were debunked later, sometimes just after a few years by the new scientists. The ‘Static Universe theory’ of Einstein was ridiculed & so was the ‘Flat ea...
by Sceptical
Sun May 22, 2016 10:51 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Unity of Ismailis: possible or is just a dream?
Replies: 6
Views: 5390

Re: Unity of Ismailis: possible or is just a dream?

Yes, i believe unfortunately, it's just a dream. Even during Imam time new firqa were created. Nowadays, the theological differences are too important between (eg Nizari with Aga Khan vs Tayebi Mustaeli). By the way, to unite Bohras it's quite simple : Alavi, Sulaymani, Dawoodi (Qutbi & Mufaddal...
by Sceptical
Sat May 21, 2016 2:10 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 813
Views: 353458

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Reminder : use "add a foe" option in user control panel if you do not want to read DFM (aka Al-Noor) stupid post :mrgreen:
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by Sceptical
Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:26 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1055815

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Today the Hon’ble High Court cleared the planned dates of cross examination due to the sad passing of His Holiness Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin RA, on March 30, 2016. Syedna Taher Fakhruddin TUS will consult with his legal advisors and then guide us on the path forward. http://fatemidawatlegal.com/unc...
by Sceptical
Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:09 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016
Replies: 1065
Views: 440260

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

Breaking news- On the Happy occasion of Milad mubarak, Maharashtra government announced an honour and dedicated the new international airport in New Mumbai to Huzurala. The airport, when ready in 2018, will be called Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin International Airport (SMSIA). Great recognition of His ...
by Sceptical
Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:26 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra Islam Kharij Cult
Replies: 7
Views: 3904

Re: Bohra Islam Kharij Cult

humble_servant_us wrote: It was an experimental speech unleashed on Bohra people..
To declare Mufaddal Saheb Imam ?
as he says in his speech : "SMB(ra) farmaw ta ke Imam mara samne tche - Mufaddal Baisaheb par ishara tha"
by Sceptical
Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Moharrum and Ashara 2015
Replies: 817
Views: 220038

Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

Ozdundee wrote:
Sceptical wrote:
How can a Dai do such behurmati of Imam Husain AS shahadat :!: :!: :!:
A true Diai would not ...is he really a Diai ?
Indeed. I don't know if Qutbuddin saheb is the mansoos, but actually he is more in line with SMB(RA) principles than Mufaddal saheb.
by Sceptical
Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:49 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Moharrum and Ashara 2015
Replies: 817
Views: 220038

Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

ghulam muhammed wrote:MOCKERY OF MOHURRUM AND IMAM HUSSAIN'S SHAHADAT AT ITS PEAK !!
Please click and watch this 1.42-minute video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h555-g1 ... e=youtu.be


How can a Dai do such behurmati of Imam Husain AS shahadat :!: :!: :!:
by Sceptical
Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:45 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1055815

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

kimanumanu wrote:But but but Ali bin Ibrahim was also Mazoon ... according to Adam that is.
It's Alavi claim and their justification I found quite ambiguous (it was on their web site).
Ali Ibn Ibrahim was nerver Mazoon according to Dawoodi Bohra.
by Sceptical
Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:49 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Replies: 1215
Views: 371436

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

Wikipedia has removed Muffy's name from the list of Dawoodi Bohra Dais :- 51. Taher Saifuddin Dai period: 1333–1385 AH/ 1915–1965 ADPlace of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 19 Rajab,1385 AHMawazeen: Syedi Dawood Shahabuddin, Syedi Fazal Qutbuddin, Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA)Mukaserin: Syedi Ishaq Jam...