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by Saif53
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

1. Well, the Qutbis approached Prof. Devin Stewart to help with their interpretations, so maybe you could ask him for his translation. Since he's an "expert". 2. The text doesn't refer to "Dai and Izn". It mentions the words Izn & Itlaaq. Both are used in the same context in the text, i.e permissio...
by Saif53
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:35 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Thank you James for keeping the Qutbi hypocrisy alive. They'll continue to avoid explaining the Taaj Al Aqaid quote, and how they conveniently avoid conversation on how unsubstantiated KQs and TQs claims are. They'll just wait until the conversation moves on and it's forgotten. However, #WeWillNotFo...
by Saif53
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:44 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

You think meaning behind wordings of a Dawat kitab could be understood by taking help from any outside translator who wouldn't know dawoodi bohra theology, who wouldn't know who wrote the kitab, what is intended audience, what is the relevant context ? Seriously ? I did read what you presented 2nd ...
by Saif53
Sun May 31, 2020 11:59 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

@Saif53 - I have limited knowledge of Arabic knowledge so I can't comment much on the article you presented. (I have read it before as well). That a mazoon speaks the truth even if its against him is written in Taj ul Aqaid - its SKQ RA position and I will go by it. I will say this though that inte...
by Saif53
Fri May 29, 2020 2:09 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

@byculla Correcting a few mistakes I would follow the mazoon above mukasir (and certainly above Shezadas like Mr Abdul Qadir). As per dawat kitab, he would speak the truth even if it goes against him. Dawat kitab doesn't state this: http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2016/05/taaj-al-aqaid-izn-itlaq-tru...
by Saif53
Wed May 20, 2020 6:37 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Challenge Accepted https://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2020/05/challenge-accepted_19.html Abdeali Qutbuddin has almost dedicated his entire time during the holy month of Ramadan this year venting out his frustrations over numerous humiliations and defeats the Qutbis have faced on all fronts. In his re...
by Saif53
Thu May 14, 2020 5:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Both Sakina bs and Tahera bs have testified privately in several sabaks they give to women in our community several times. Thank you. Now we're getting somewhere. 1) Can you'll provide details? How it was done from the witnesses account? 2) What about the men of your community, who weren't privileg...
by Saif53
Thu May 14, 2020 4:11 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Having observed this thread over the last few days it is obvious that there are more Qutbi supporters here who frankly have double standards. You guys nitpick every little detail in the nass of MS but refuse to clearly explain or debate when asked about the nass of TF calling it 'fitnat' and 'perve...
by Saif53
Wed May 13, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Read again my response in bold. I already responded. In any case you are not here for anything but fitnat so I wouldn't expect anything better from you. We believed in STF tus immediately and much to your chagrin, it was also established in courts in 2017. You repeatedly asking questions which are ...
by Saif53
Wed May 13, 2020 2:36 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

@byculla I'm aware Taher read out a letter. But who's to testify the letter is authentic? (As per the Qutbi argument for KQ) Taher wasn't the Mazoon. So we can't just take his word for it. That's why shariat/Nass&tawqeef requires witnesses. Now, the Qutbis say that Sakina and Bazar Tahera are witnes...
by Saif53
Wed May 13, 2020 8:52 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

or it is just that, we do not accept Nass was done on Khuzaima, but even if it was, that does not matter because Nass was changed and Final Nass is the only valid Nass, Hence Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin is the rightful successor. Yes. That is correct. I had my doubts about Hidayat Amiriya attributed ...
by Saif53
Tue May 12, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

3. Taher's alleged Nass We know because we are believers of SKQ and we were given a full account of the nass after SKQ’s passing. Care to give details of this full account? Was it verbal? Who gave the account? Is there any reference or Audio/video of the account? Asking for a friend. Thanks 4. Witne...
by Saif53
Tue May 12, 2020 2:49 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

1) Sajdo Yes. I'm aware the examples were not of the physically living. It was to highlight that the Da'i Mutlaq is the only authority on matters of jurisprudence. I also gave the reference of the 5th Dai for the Mazoon. 2) @ezzoudine Hidayat Amiriyah states that despite any prior Nass, the final Na...
by Saif53
Mon May 11, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

@Ezzoudine Sajda in practice has been given to the Da'i Mutlaq & his Mansoos. That being said, if the Da'i Mutlaq instructs mumineen to give Sajda to anyone else, then it is his prerogative, as he is Haq and fiqeh personified. And ultimately, Sajda is to Allah via his medium/waseelahs. For example, ...
by Saif53
Tue May 05, 2020 5:50 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

RedBox wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 8:32 am
Also a very important point, where was KQ when MB was in Cromwell hospital, as a mazoon for 50 years isnt it important for a dai to declare his successor in the presence of his lieutenant mazoon.
No.
Simple enough?
by Saif53
Sat May 02, 2020 2:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I have a simple question for Saif53 : If one believes that Imam Jaferrussadiq ever conferred nass on Musa Qazim, can that person be called a Dawoodi Bohra? Please reply. Thank you. Saif53 , looking forward to your reply. Please respond to this specific question. Please don't change the question as ...
by Saif53
Sat May 02, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

There is a difference between nass being done and the charade of a nass being conducted to fool gullible masses. We did not change nass because nass was never done. Our eyes were opened to the charade that was conducted. Time to decimate all your gibberish.The Public Nass took place in 2011. There ...
by Saif53
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 742
Views: 236050

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

In a previous video, STF explained why he has started this series. In essence, his argument is that often da'is have chosen particular moments in time to explain things to a broader audience. For example, during the time of the Imam Mustansir, S. al-Mu'ayyad al-Shirazi gave weekly lectures to anyon...
by Saif53
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

@dal-chaval-palidu: You asked who *deliberately* misquoted the contents of Hidayat Amiriyah, by claiming that it talked about this murder of Imam Hasan. I showed you proof of Crater Lake & objectiveobserver53 lied about this, very well knowing that the book did not contain this. You have not acknowl...
by Saif53
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:11 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

That's fine. That's your opinion.
I'm a Dawoodi Bohra. So i'll follow the teachings of the Duat such as Syedna Idris Imaduddin, Syedna Mohammed bin Taher that establish the text of al-Hidayah al-Amiriyah. Thanks
by Saif53
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:19 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I just wanna know why you guys think that nass can be changed. And why you claimed in court that Sadiq Imam did nass on Moosa Qasim.... why would the Dai who does nass with the ilhaam of the Imam need to change the nass? Are you saying that the Imam is fallible then? Did STS believe Imam Jafar us S...
by Saif53
Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

If so, did your lawyer (Mr. Iqbal Chagla) point out that this was a distorted text? What was the witness and the judge's response? This is all elementary as you state, so I am sure those smart lawyers caught it and corrected the witness. What was response from the judge to a distorted text being su...
by Saif53
Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:23 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 742
Views: 236050

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Here STF quotes the Qu'ran from Surah Maryam verse 26 which says "So eat and drink and be contented. And if you see from among humanity anyone, say, 'Indeed, I have vowed to the Most Merciful that I will fast, so I will not speak today to any man.'" Again, this seems like a contradiction: in one ph...
by Saif53
Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:57 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Coronavirus
Replies: 177
Views: 12697

Re: Coronavirus

It is very clear it is your interpretation of Fatemi philosophy twisted to suit your current situation where your leader is a fool and you cannot make public his stupid speeches. We always received Burhanuddin Moula’s waaz clips on WhatsApp, the ikhtebaasat were widely available etc etc. In fact in...
by Saif53
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:13 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2928
Views: 638692

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Expert Witness Cross Examination
https://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2020/0 ... ation.html

This discusses the accusation of the Murder of Imam Hasan.
And witnesses of the Nass on the 21st Imam.

This was discussed earlier on this thread.
by Saif53
Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:35 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Coronavirus
Replies: 177
Views: 12697

Re: Coronavirus

There's no comparison Yes damn right. There is no comparison between STF’s bayans and Muffy brayans. No comparison between your childish Sabaq’s and STF’s comprehensive teachings and command over Quran and texts. The Majlises are being streamed *privately*, Forgive me for not fainting in admiration...
by Saif53
Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Coronavirus
Replies: 177
Views: 12697

Re: Coronavirus

Bhai Saif53, Can you explain how QJ bhaisaheb and your Moula gave in the court to make their case a book that said, between Imam Hussain (AS) and Imam Hassan (AS), one Imam killed the other. Please explain that [/quote] @dal-chaval-palidu Here you go: Expert Witness Cross Examination https://qutbib...
by Saif53
Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Coronavirus
Replies: 177
Views: 12697

Re: Coronavirus

Is it just me, or are the Mufaddalies looking more and more like those with STF......socially isolated, internet amal instructions, praying at home, YouTube majlises....it’s lovely to see :wink: After calling us YouTube dawat, they are resorting to it themselves! Did someone not say imitation is th...
by Saif53
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:27 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 742
Views: 236050

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Arwa Qutbuddin on Parenting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXuPwo0ZeIM Qutbi Bohra comments on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXuPwo0ZeIM Arwa Qutbuddin is twisting the truth and fails to mention the following facts: 1. She claims the children are victims of parental alienation, when in fac...
by Saif53
Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018-19
Replies: 463
Views: 133992

Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018

FROM THE QUTBI BOHRA BLOG Thoughts on Taher’s speech 28.02.2019 https://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2019/03/thoughts-on-tahers-speech-28022019.html Nice try. I think the answer to the questions raised by Mufaddal Zainuddin (Al Jameatus Saifiyah graduate based in Colombo) in his blog is already contain...