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by AgnosticIndian
Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Stages in Leaving a Cultic System
Replies: 30
Views: 6525

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Stop referring to YouTube and get on with life. Your life will be easier if you stop worrying about religion, heaven and hell. Don't make life on earth a hell for rewards of a "heaven" after death. I am writing as many times I do only because I reflect and my conscious or conscience guides me. I was...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:10 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Stages in Leaving a Cultic System
Replies: 30
Views: 6525

Re: Stages in Leaving a Cultic System

Assalam Aleykum Wa Rehmatullahi wa Barakatuhu , I created this account to just thank the members of this forum who have (by the will of Allah) led me to the truth. The journey started about a year back, reading articles and discussions over here, it's really been an eye opener !! The tyrant leaders...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:24 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017
Replies: 223
Views: 47364

Re: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017

What's wrong in doing Yog? One good thing if they continue to do it through the year at home too. There is always a time and place for everything. You can do Yog anytime any place. I am sure they did their prayers on time. We have jamatkhanas used for various events. Don't see anything wrong in the...
by AgnosticIndian
Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:27 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: New Mazoon appointment
Replies: 2
Views: 1505

Re: New Mazoon appointment

People have forgotten that there is a lost of Mazoon. It's all about Dai now. Mazoon post was discredit. In any case, it's the Kothari insider politics that's preventing any early decision.
by AgnosticIndian
Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:23 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017
Replies: 223
Views: 47364

Re: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017

What's wrong in doing Yog? One good thing if they continue to do it through the year at home too.
by AgnosticIndian
Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:09 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra Ramzan 2017 And Related Topics
Replies: 50
Views: 11957

Re: Bohra Ramzan 2017 And Related Topics

A bunch of covers were given today. Najwa, FMB, Silat ul Imam, Mohammedi scheme and one or two more to be given filled with money and given on jagwani raat.
by AgnosticIndian
Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1093
Views: 119174

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

yfm wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:20 am
When you play around with peoples religion and faith, history shows that some one is going to get hurt. Now that they are coming up in the open, you just wait and see. It is sad.
Violence is the last refuge of scoundrels
by AgnosticIndian
Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:03 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017
Replies: 223
Views: 47364

Re: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017

All of them will be tagged. Then they will present it as a record. I bet Muffy is targeting some award from UN or something or become an ambassador for environment. Of course at no cost. Here they have asked to pay ₹300 and register names to plant. First the mighty kothar were selling bird feeders T...
by AgnosticIndian
Thu May 25, 2017 1:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Misaq the practise of oath taking in Dawoodi Bohra
Replies: 44
Views: 3369

Re: Misaq the practise of oath taking in Dawoodi Bohra

The oath should be put out in public. The world at large should know about this oppressive oath that violates democratic rights of Bohras. It's violation of human rights itself. It has to make it to mainstream media. One may say that Islam itself "violates democratic rights of Bohras". You are maki...
by AgnosticIndian
Thu May 25, 2017 11:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Misaq the practise of oath taking in Dawoodi Bohra
Replies: 44
Views: 3369

Re: Misaq the practise of oath taking in Dawoodi Bohra

The oath should be put out in public. The world at large should know about this oppressive oath that violates democratic rights of Bohras. It's violation of human rights itself. It has to make it to mainstream media.
by AgnosticIndian
Thu May 25, 2017 10:36 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progressive bohra population
Replies: 6
Views: 1321

Re: Progressive bohra population

Being against the Kothar doesn't make anyone progressive or reformist. I see many Islamists here although they may be against Kothar. So who decides one is Islamist .You consider reformists non Muslim? Please explain your understanding what makes one non Muslim or declare one an apostate? People ex...
by AgnosticIndian
Thu May 25, 2017 10:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1093
Views: 119174

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

There was an article by Aarefa Johari on Sahiyo on what all the Bohras cite in favor of the FGM. Prominently it's the Daim-il-Islam. https://sahiyo.com/2017/05/19/why-do-dawoodi-bohras-practice-khatna-or-female-genital-cutting/ This is open challenge to orthodox they want to challenge in Detroit tha...
by AgnosticIndian
Thu May 25, 2017 10:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1093
Views: 119174

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

There was an article by Aarefa Johari on Sahiyo on what all the Bohras cite in favor of the FGM. Prominently it's the Daim-il-Islam. https://sahiyo.com/2017/05/19/why-do-dawoodi-bohras-practice-khatna-or-female-genital-cutting/ This is open challenge to orthodox they want to challenge in Detroit tha...
by AgnosticIndian
Thu May 25, 2017 10:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1093
Views: 119174

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

There was an article by Aarefa Johari on Sahiyo on what all the Bohras cite in favor of the FGM. Prominently it's the Daim-il-Islam. https://sahiyo.com/2017/05/19/why-do-dawoodi-bohras-practice-khatna-or-female-genital-cutting/ This is open challenge to orthodox they want to challenge in Detroit tha...
by AgnosticIndian
Fri May 19, 2017 1:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progressive bohra population
Replies: 6
Views: 1321

Re: Progressive bohra population

Being against the Kothar doesn't make anyone progressive or reformist. I see many Islamists here although they may be against Kothar.
by AgnosticIndian
Fri May 12, 2017 9:08 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Replies: 1215
Views: 224064

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

Yes I have said this many times esp on other social media that the issue of FGM will be the beginning of the end of the dynasty. I am glad I am playing my part in the campaign against FGM. What these few modern day reformists have done is what FD or cases upon cases have been unable to do for 50 yea...
by AgnosticIndian
Wed May 10, 2017 9:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1093
Views: 119174

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

Did this lady blog it? Can you give a link? If she has not made an anonymous post & trusts her Moula to save her, she will be trouble. Her name and link to the blog will help. This looks like a writing of PRO FGM SUPPORTER RASHIDA MUSTAFA, of Manchester England, a blogger and wife No 2 of Shaikh Mus...
by AgnosticIndian
Wed May 10, 2017 10:45 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 31267

Re: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017

No this case is different. It's about human rights. The case is getting wide coverage. Life in prison for the doctors in US will give a further impetus. Just like the Triple Talaq case, the gvt will have to answer against FGM. It should be called Crime Against Little Girls for that is what it is and...
by AgnosticIndian
Tue May 09, 2017 12:21 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 31267

Re: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017

The Supreme Court gets involved .. http://www.livemint.com/Politics/Au1pn0Rwg74ZqaqmPGEoIL/Supreme-Court-to-examine-female-genital-mutilation-issue.html Can anybody throw a light on how fast this can proceed in the Supreme court? It won't progress too quickly. SC has already said it's a "sensitive"...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:53 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 31267

Re: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017

These doctors are as much victims of one man's rigidity and tyranny as they are culprits. The whole situation is just sad. Which "one man" are you talking about? The practice of FGM is deeply rooted in the Bohra theology, going back to centuries, all the way back to the Fatimids in Egypt. S Qadi No...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:10 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 31267

Re: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017

ROTFLMAO seeing people absolve MB while blaming MS as if FGM & other ills didn't exist during the time of MB & this is something new. The difference is that that this was brought to MS' attention multiple times by the female activists of his following and he just ignored them and worse still, insis...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:48 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 31267

Re: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017

ROTFLMAO seeing people absolve MB while blaming MS as if FGM & other ills didn't exist during the time of MB & this is something new.
by AgnosticIndian
Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:39 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Uniform Civil Code in India
Replies: 8
Views: 1127

Re: Uniform Civil Code in India

Uniform Civil Code should be implemented. One country, one law. All other modern democratic & progessive nations have one law giving equal rights to all. India should be among those. Discrimination of none, appeasement of none.
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:50 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Will notes ban affect cash flow of Kothar?
Replies: 29
Views: 11421

Re: Will notes ban affect cash flow of Kothar?

They will convert all their 500,1000. They will print more donation vouchers and deposit money in the bank. They will get away in the name of religious freedom.
by AgnosticIndian
Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:14 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
Replies: 45
Views: 23462

Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?

Facebook, twitter and whatsapp groups have taken over. Bohras are not so much on twitter but on Facebook. People are also moving to digital publications like The Quint, Scroll.in, The Wire etc. Aarefa Johari who is part of the group Sahiyo fighting against FGM, writes in Scroll.in. What's @Admin can...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:42 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
Replies: 108
Views: 8715

Re: Moti-us-swalak Fasting

Yeah kids shouldn't be allowed to fast. Not on this Moti-us-swalat but 30 days of Ramzan and then there is Ashura day fast or laagan as it's called. Most Muslims ask their 7-8 years olds to start fasting in Ramzan. Allowing small children to fast amounts to cruelty and parents can be booked under la...
by AgnosticIndian
Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:33 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics
Replies: 208
Views: 62662

Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

So I heard the clip of the "fasal" for this years "Ashara Mubaraka". A huge cheer rang up. It was like how countries that win the rights to host Olympics or FIFA World Cup scream on hearing that they have won the bid. Oh yes bid! Ashara have been reduced to competitive bidding just like Olympics & F...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:09 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016
Replies: 1065
Views: 254734

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

rocky525354 wrote:[img]image.jpeg[/img]
Highlights the secular and pluralistic traditions of India & respect for all religions. Well done
by AgnosticIndian
Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 98967

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

Heard that a "agal parta" abde or former abde has been baraated in Pune for sending whatsapp messages against Muffy. Apparently the Aamil & co knocked at his door around 0100 to confront him.
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:26 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016
Replies: 1065
Views: 254734

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

I pity your narrow bigoted mind What's wrong in tying rakhis? It's age old Indian tradition. Are you saying it's a "Hindu" thing and that it's unislamic to do so? Hatred for Muffy leading to hatred for Indian traditions and whatever ordinary bohris do which doesn't fit narrow vision of Islamists. By...