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- Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ramzan Bayaans
- Replies: 227
- Views: 52307
Re: Ramzan Bayaans
I have read quite a lot on this thread about how the same question/bayaan, by two different people will give two different responses/bayaans. I think the reason for this is not necassarily that people are intentionally lying (while they might do for other things) but more because, if they have gone ...
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:10 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
- Replies: 2529
- Views: 671441
Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
ARB, you're right, if Qaid Johar Bhaisaab had come out that day and said Maula has done nass on KQ, I, along with all mumineen would be following KQ right now, the fact of the matter is, neither he nor Maula has said that. To anyone who not only supports KQ, but those who have taken his misaaq I hav...
- Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:12 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
- Replies: 2529
- Views: 671441
Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
In the article above, it claims that KQ has a lot of evidence, why not make it public? Why keep it so secret? Is it because he is still forging the evidence as we speak? Muffadal Maula has shown everyone in waaz that he has proof, the letters ect ect. After re looking at KQ waving the 'quran' we nev...
- Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:58 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
Anjami, and you say I am blind. you said youself in your post: 'Unfortunately for you, the weeds grew into a big tree' So who is senseless and not to mention a hypocryte. Are you honestly just going to wave it away because it doesn't support you. Scholars agree on it so youre just going to deny it? ...
- Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:09 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
Anjami, So RasulAllah didn't know what he was talking about? Is there any better 'gardener' than RasulAllah? Thankfully for us the weeds grew into a separate tree and our tree is still standing strong today despite the numerous genocide attempt at Shias by Sunnis. Scholars are unanimous regarding th...
- Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:42 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
How is going to do ziyarat high flying? Isn't it every mumins wish to do Zyarat of Imam Hussain and Ali, Syedna Hatim and any other that he does in the next few weeks. I have never been forced by my parents to go to masjid but it is my basic need that if maula is in mycity I go to see him and even g...
- Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:06 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
Despite Burhanuddin Maula giving nass to Muffadal Maula, is trying to seize control of dawat, just like Abu Bakr (LA) When RasulAllah Passed away, Maulatuna Fatema cut all ties with Abu Bakr and today, Fatema na Dai Muffadal Maula will cut all ties with Abu bakrs ham shaan KQ. When RasulAllah passed...
- Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:15 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
No I wasn't able to go to jamea. I want to tell you a zikr from RasulAllah. Once Imam Hasan and Imam hussain along with a few very close Ashab were with RasulAllah and one asked him If these 3 are going to be enemies of Islam in the future why are you keeping them so close to you. So RasulAllah plan...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:31 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
the only time the Holy Quran talks about Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman is in the following Ayats: Summun bukmun umyun fahum laa yarji'oon" They are deaf, dumb and blind so they return not (to the right path) That was your evidence. They spread the wrong Islam far and wide, no matter which Shia grou...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
its pointless arguing, there is evidence which supports both theories.
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:43 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
A Sunni historian Al-Yaqubi mentions in Tarikh al-Yaqubi, "A numbers of migrants and the helpers refused to swear allegiance to Abu Bakr, inclined as they were to favor Ali ibn AbuTalib. Al Abbas bin Abd al-Muttalib, Al-Fadi bin Al-Abbas, Al Zuhayr, Khalid bin Said, Al Miqdad, Salman the Persia...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:20 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
Based on that response I am 100% sure anjami is a sunni. Imam Ali didn't start his own, he continued the one from RasulAllah it was Abu Bakr (LA) along with the other 2 (LA) who borke away when they went to Sakifa to decide who would take over. My question to you is if Abu Bakr believed RasulAllah h...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
Similarly when Burhannuddin Maula became Dai the population of India, especially surat in Pune had a lot of love for KQ and if Maula had removed him then it would have caused more damage to the community. You can be both masoom and human it isn't one or the other. Did I say he was the closest? He wa...
- Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:19 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
Dai is Infallible Akhtar bhai. As was RasulAllah so why did he marry Aisha (LA)? Why did he keep Abu Bakar (LA) close to him? It was all part of the bigger picture, Everyone has heard the saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Are you going to honestly tell me that KQ hasn't made mi...
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:02 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
- Replies: 2529
- Views: 671441
Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
you say he is a deep hiccup but what about the misaaq figures, which she his support being at a whoping 1000 people. Literally 1 thousandth of the community, hardly a hiccup lol
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
Humanbeing, Burhannudin Maula was exactly the same, he used to meet with many politicians, dignitaries, and other individuals of great importance, it is a given that one leader must have good relations with other world leaders. And I don't consider kothar to be above me, do I show them respect? yes,...
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:55 am
- Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
- Topic: Australia - Forgotten Continent
- Replies: 103
- Views: 77847
Re: Australia - Forgotten Continent
JC you're wrong about maatam being something done out of guilt. It is a part of grieving and it is even in the quran that beating youself on the chest has been ordained onto us by Allah. If it was for the people because they felt they betrayed Imam Hussain and the Ahlul Bait, why did Imam Hussain do...
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:25 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
Also another thing which I think would also come up is that it is not as though maula passed away a few days after the stroke, He stayed alive for well over 2 years. Mufaadal Maula was always with him for main miqaats and things sitting right next to him and sometimes even on the takhat. To assume M...
- Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:14 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: succession video removed
- Replies: 150
- Views: 35239
Re: succession video removed
I saved the video which was uploaded on KQ's website because I have wanted it for a long time. I only watched the ziyarat scene first because I really couldn't deal with the emotion I was feeling (I watched it after wafaat). When I then read that post saying Maula had said Muffadal Bhai ne nass nu t...
- Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:24 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
- Replies: 2710
- Views: 704920
Re: Bohri SMS Duniya
I highly doubt they'll lick it, they cover it in marble you see so the khaki shifa will not just be able to be picked up.
- Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:45 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38952
Re: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
think for yourself, while you were not posting I am sure others were, which is simply why I asked. We lapped it up? KQ followers did exactly the same thing, so I don't understand how you can insult us for listening to someone when you do the same? I keep posting about double standards although it ob...
- Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:49 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38952
Re: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
Ghulam, Kothar was also a cananite God, but that doesn't mean the Kothar are based on him does it? Everything has to be taken into context. There is a surname Kothari now in India and the original Kothari were care-takers for the Kings palace. Although it seems to me that a lot of people assume that...
- Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:26 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
- Replies: 2710
- Views: 704920
Re: Bohri SMS Duniya
The Holy Qur'an has openly deemed obligatory the payment of the Khumus tax, saying, “And know that whatever thing you gain, a fifth of it is for Allah and for the Messenger and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer. 8/41” - Now whether you give 1/5 of what you gain per y...
- Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:39 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
- Replies: 2710
- Views: 704920
Re: Bohri SMS Duniya
Ghulam, I said speech impaired, not a complete loss of speech. KQ's arguements, other than the so called nass done in private are just a bunch of interpretations. eg.' My beloved son, my beloved son, my beloved son' Maula used to call each and every one of us his pyaara pyaara farzando and while I c...
- Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:06 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38952
Re: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
I can't read gujrati, but I was brought up with the Word Kothar meaning the people who travel with Maula and are in his khidmat.
- Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:41 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
- Replies: 2529
- Views: 671441
Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Look at you, can't think of a response so just belittling what I say and putting words in my mouth. did I ever say he was better than mazoon?
- Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
- Replies: 2710
- Views: 704920
Re: Bohri SMS Duniya
Okay lets assume they stopped, wrongly. Why did Maula never say anything to the contrary, that mumineen should do sajdo for him? He could have said it in waaz, taken out the so called 'corrupted' middle man. but maula didn't. As for Maula saying that they will give you sajdo I don't recall Maula eve...
- Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:39 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
- Replies: 2529
- Views: 671441
Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
It is right to call someone by their title, agreed. But if, by mistake someone forgets to, is it worth stopping the whole majlis just for one word? And once again SMB you surprise me, have you seen the certificate to know that it is fake? Do you work at that university to know it was bought and not ...
- Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:12 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
- Replies: 2529
- Views: 671441
Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
KQ definately doesn't like it when you don't refer to them as doctor. Have you not seen the video where they don't referto BT as Dr and he starts waving his hands around telling them to correct it. So while they may not kill you I am sure they will ask for forgiveness and possibly some dirty looks a...
- Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:32 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38952
Re: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
Ghulam, you keep saying we turn a blind eye but since I joined this forum there has been no evidence placed in front of me, it is just theory upon theory with no difinitive proof. If you put a police report or a report by an official source which shows that the community has been involved in fraudul...