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The whole Taawil philosophy is a doctrinal pretzel, the more twisted it is the more it is supposed to dazzle the believer. From your latest exposition all it means is that Taawil is another, complicated dogma for what is commonly known as awakening, enlightenment. All enlightened mystics ...

Taawil comes from God who informs His chosen ones about it. This Taawil is specific. It is not a creation of human beings. Human interpretations of Quran are ordinary taawil. They can be many versions of it and are often the origins of disputes.

Taawil that God lets know to whoever He wills may or ...

Now of course we know that "Every living thing is made out of water" is a valid statement.


Anyone who has the benefit of a high school education knows that the primary component of life is Carbon. Water, as every one knows, is Hydrogen and Oxygen only. So the statement is not valid.

On the ...

"Can Brutality be God’s Will? Bohra Cleric Syedna Favours FGM"

http://www.thequint.com/women/2016/05/0 ... ort-of-fgm

Sorry. This has already posted here.

sajda done to Adam and Yusuf was sajda e taazim, and sajda for ALLAH is sajda e ibadat.



Does the Quran distinguish between the two types of sajda? Of course it does not. In the Quran, Allah commands you do sajda only to Him.

But, what the heck! What has Quran got to with our religion? Our ...

Arab Shaan na Dai che muffadal mola. Taher saiffudin mola nu naam khotu lakhelu hatu to pan mola e vaat vandho na lidho.
Mola mola muffadal mola

Actually, it is mufaddal, not muffadal. It is saifuddin, not saiffudin. But the spellings get jumbled up in translation. If you wrote in Arabic or ...

That Muffy is Imam is completely true. Imam had a long term plan to ingratiate himself among the early Dais of Hind and Sind and he achieved an exalted post thereby being nominated as the Dai himself in the process. Being disguised as the Dai kept him safe from the enemies of the Imam. In truth ...

Bohras find comfort in shared 'identity' which, among others, comprises of history, language, cuisine, social norms, and a 'ready' pool for the choice of life-partners. The basis for all these is their 'religion'.

You can prove this to yourself. Go to an unfamiliar country and your Bohra ...

A believes that Allah is God
B believes that Ali is God
C believes that Krishna is God
D believes that Jesus is God
E believes that Muffy is God
F believes that the Tree in his garden is God
G believes in Jinns
H believes in Angels, Fairy Godmother, Santa Klaus and witches
I believes in the 'Evil ...

You would even call Ali RA to be a wahhabi if he were to come on earth.

Ali, a Wahhabi? :lol: :lol: :lol:

There is an enigmatic saying attributed to Ali ibn Abi Talib whose meaning can only be understood by having recourse to the science of al-jafr, (جـفـر الإمـام عـلـي (ع, the symbolic form ...

Ateka wrote:and fayyaz has gone crazy as he is contemplating suicide

Wahhabi dupe displaying her IQ hitting rock bottom.

Abde Bohras are. ..........full of shirk and kufr.

Listen you SOB's. You are kafirs, mushriks and idol-worshipers. :x

So?

Allah will punish you. :x

So?

You will burn in hell.

So?

Stop this evil.

Ha! Ha!

I will send you to hell. :x

Really?

I am not going to wait for Allah to punish ...

That's splendid! Three times the blessings for the price of one darees. It is Black Friday -um- Jumoa Sale!

Bhai sbm is right the thread is getting lost into something totally irrelevant, but nonetheless entertaining


Brother SBM is the peon of this forum, a whining, old cleaning lady. Wants to clean forum all the time so everything is in its 'proper' place. :lol: Pick that up you stupid cow!! Keep ...

(At least) Two different interpretations of the Quran:

7:35 O CHILDREN of Adam! Whenever there come unto you apostles of your own, conveying My messages unto you, then all who are conscious of Me and live righteously - no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve.

10:62 Oh, verily, they ...

Ateka wrote: : r u even Muslim? Believe me I am not being sarcastic, I am actually intrigued by your post. Totally exasperating and .

There are many varieties of Islam, you Wahhabi dupe!

Only a Wahhabi will say there is only one Islam.

I look forward to your typing "Ya Allah madad" soon, In Sha Allah.

You can be no more certain of Allah helping you as you can of Krishna, Muhammad, Ali, Mola Mufaddal or even your own flesh and blood helping you. You silly girl!

And don't tell me you believe it because it is written in an ...

Arabs pretend that they were ignorant before Islam as if they are sooooo enlightened today.

Islam started when Prophet decided to favor one idol called Allah above all other idols and decided that Allah cannot be depicted as a physical idol, just a mental idol. He then sought to destroy those ...

Ateka wrote: Well then, Prophet called out Abu-Bakr to help in freeing Bilal from Slavery so does it mean that we must all start calling out "Ya Abu-Bakr Madad"?

Was Abu Bakr a martyr?

It is related that in times of difficulty, in war or peace, Prophet asked for Ali's help. He would say "Ya Ali Madad" and called Ali 'Mushkil Kusha'. Ali is dead in physical terms but who knows? Quran hints that martyrs like Ali are 'alive'. This is just like Jesus whom Quran claims to have survived ...

Training also is needed in constructing a horoscope (rashi), reading palms (palmistry), reading tea leaves, reading bones etc.; and all these 'fun' practices have 'reputable' pedigrees. Even Prophet was not beyond believing in 'black magic' which can be be easily attested from a 'Sahih' hadith ...

Biradar,

An extremely well reasoned input from you. Thanks.

It is given that whatever Qadi Noman wrote was with Imam's approval. Bohras therefore consider his writings 'gospel'. I agree with you when you say that no Imam can be considered infallible and a large number of hadiths quoted by Qadi ...

You are all being so silly. Janab Badri has all the right to say whatever he wants. If you do not like his words then make an extra roti which Mola has commanded you to make. Su tame Mola nu farmaan sar par nai utha lawo? Bas, ek roti ziyada tanaawul kari lejo. Awa manhooz khayalo ni mafi Mola turat ...

bet he will bring change in Atlanta rather then this newbie who has already started to do wrong , wonder what will happen in future .

There is no such system which allows you to choose your Amil. Who do you think you are to oppose the the karam and ahsan of our Mola, the greatest God to walk on ...

This is known to be a "weak" hadith in that it does not meet the strict criteria to be considered unquestionable (classified as mursal, i.e. missing a link in the chain of transmitters in that none was among the original Companions of the Prophet.)

All Sunni hadiths are considered weak by the ...

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Did you look up the dictionary for the meaning of the word 'duplicity'? What you really mean is 'duplication' or 'repetition" .

On the other hand the word 'duplicity' has that meaning in India!

fayyaaz says that

Every word in the Quran is used for specific effect.

and yet in the same post he says about words of the Quran that

This could be written, “inna al-ilm indillah".

Idiot! Jaahil!

It could be written that way if you want to say Allah has all the knowledge. You might use ...

Bohra Dias Mufadal , Qutbudin and others will be forced to comply. It is respectable they drop their arrogance and make a stand.

They cannot comply otherwise they would end up denying Daimul Islam, which they cannot do. The only way is for the one or the other to declare himself the Imam. He will ...

“Prophet was just man like you and me in that he had to use the toilet”.

That is anajmi’s characterization of the Prophet.

However, exceptions (innama) must be made to account for a saying of the Prophet.

ةَ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ
قَالُوا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ مَتَى وَجَبَتْ لَكَ النُّبُوَّة ...

There is no question that anajmi is a Wahhabi. He may deny it but he has all of a Wahhabi's characteristics. His constant denunciation of Shia esoteric interpretation of the Quran is just one of those characteristics.

Imam Jafar as-Sadiq dealt with 3 aspects of studying the Quran, reciting ...