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by mustafazr
Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:37 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Court orders are publicly available on Bombay High Court website. "The trial in the matter is now complete and it is ready for final hearing" After 8 long years the case is finally coming to an end. Final arguments start on 28th of November and continue every day until 23rd of Dec. Judge G...
by mustafazr
Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:51 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I should also add that courts and justices would be VERY WARY of any side taking action against a witness of the opposing side, since this sets an extremely bad precedent where future witnesses would be disincentived from coming to testify, which is not in favor of the overall goal of the court to u...
by mustafazr
Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

That's correct, less to no weight. Justice Gautam Patel has said multiple times that at the time of final arguments, the cumulative sum of all evidence will be weighed accordingly. The case is a civil suit against Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin, the witnesses are not under trial. Each witness' affidavi...
by mustafazr
Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:10 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

They lose credibility.
dal-chaval-palidu wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:30 am So if a witness says something that is blatantly incorrect under oath, what, if anything, is likely to happen in the court?
by mustafazr
Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

dal-chaval-palidu wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:15 am
juzer esmail wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:42 pm Latest....
Any idea what happened on Oct 27-29th?
They were also delayed.
by mustafazr
Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Hah, that's rich. "closely controlled echo chamber". I asked you to respect basic decency, avoid name calling & clarify your beliefs. Clearly, all you are interested in is maintaining anonymity & stroking your ego.
by mustafazr
Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Regarding evidence, the court does not allow either side to make any evidence public, especially for a matter that is currently being heard, so it is not possible to post it at this point in time. There are, in all likelihood, over 10,000 pages of paper evidence, in addition to numerous audio and vi...
by mustafazr
Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

I presume the media will report on it, like they have done with most major developments. I can confirm that Defendant's advocates have submitted no further name, other than Dr. Malik. They have merely made a passing comment that they have "lots of witnesses; expert, translations, various nass i...
by mustafazr
Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

dal-chaval-palidu -

All High Courts in India are equivalent, and a judgment order from any one High Court holds jurisdiction over the whole country, regardless of which city the order originated from.
by mustafazr
Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Biradar - I'll begin by addressing the question you put to me, but then, I am not debating with you any further until we get a few ground rules clarified. I'll get to them later. On your question to me, I did not say alleged nass on Shz Mufaddal Saifuddin at Cromwell Hospital is invalid because he w...
by mustafazr
Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Not that I care to say more on this, but the Cromwell hospital "incident" has even less of a leg to stand on, than the alleged nass in Raudat Tahera (not that the latter has any leg to stand on either). In their version: Shz Mufaddal Safiuddin is in the town, but SMB RA, proceeds to pronou...
by mustafazr
Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:44 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

What are you going on about - Cromwell hospital video. In the same breath that you accuse Shz Mufaddal Saifuddin of despicable acts, and admit that it is apparent SMB RA's condition was not one that was fit to pronounce nass, days later after a stroke in a public setting among thousands, in that ver...
by mustafazr
Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Please, spare me the usual progressive regurgitated mantra. Criticisms against SMB RA are getting old and simply have no room in discussion. The Dawoodi Bohra doctrine is rather straightforward: the Dai, as the representative of Imam uz Zaman, is always on haq or furthermore, haq personified. You ei...
by mustafazr
Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Shz Mufaddal Saifuddin not showing up has absolutely everything to do with his lack of "courage". His absence is a great detriment to his legal case, but his legal team is keenly aware of his inability to conduct himself in a public setting (where he doesn't control the metaphorical microp...
by mustafazr
Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3769
Views: 1056492

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

The doctrine is that private nass is a valid form of nass, the Imam (and in satr, the Dai) have the authority to do so if they deem it appropriate. In a case where multiple claims of private nass exist, each would have to be individually analyzed and given weight per their authority. Regardless, tha...
by mustafazr
Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics
Replies: 744
Views: 272715

Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018

i have spoken to any uneducated bohra people from Indian villages and found them to be very stubborn and single track minded. For them Moula is Haq and the right path to salvation. When discuss about money laundering and money hungry Kothar they overlook all that as minor matters and see Moula and ...
by mustafazr
Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics
Replies: 744
Views: 272715

Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018

And if that is what they want, if that is what makes them happy, who are we to protest ... :( It is incumbent upon every Mumin to strive towards khair khwayi (betterment), hidayat (guidance) and najaat (salvation) of his fellow brethren. The highest example in this regard is Daiz Zaman Syedna Taher...
by mustafazr
Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
Replies: 45
Views: 35566

Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?

Ironically, you've answered the original question of this topic with your responses. Anonymous public settings on the internet have never and likely will never be a good forum for serious discussions, especially for a group of people as disorganized as here with no clear goal. Nothing stays on topic...
by mustafazr
Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:49 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
Replies: 45
Views: 35566

Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?

anajmi wrote:
And who put them in the position to be making a choice? And if the choice is with them to choose their "Mother" and "Father" then the Nuss doesn't matter.
I see you have trouble following logic.
by mustafazr
Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:18 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
Replies: 45
Views: 35566

Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?

Both rutbas are that of Imam is Zaman, both are parents of Mumineen, Dai is Father and Mazoon is Mother, their actions are in harmony to protect Imam uz Zaman's Dawat. It is evident for those who can see. The evidence is that a majority of these "Mumineen" are now in the clutches of an ev...
by mustafazr
Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:47 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
Replies: 45
Views: 35566

Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?

As posted above, the Dai during the 3 year period, the one towards whom misaq was given, was Syedna Burhanuddin. Mumineen held reverence towards Syedna Burhanuddin. Haq na Dai. MS might have usurped the position of Mansoos and in doing so, stolen the "minbar and mehrab", but the fact remai...
by mustafazr
Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:53 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics
Replies: 208
Views: 106909

Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

Waaz has started about 90 minutes ago of which 15 mins wasted on pepple doing salaam, 20 mins on bayan on Burhanuddin maula, and almost 30mins spent on the Tanzanian president and grand mufti speeches. So when does zikr e Hussain AS happen? If this same shit is on tomorrow then I'm not coming :evil...
by mustafazr
Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:15 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 813
Views: 353753

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Innumerable wrongs do not make a right, particularly when it's clearly dictated in the Quran. I couldn't have said it better myself. Innumerable wrongs by the Muslim community do not make a right, when the Quran has particularly stated examples of Allah commanding to do sajda to Waliullah. What mat...
by mustafazr
Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:38 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 813
Views: 353753

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Why don't you watch the waaz for yourself to find out?
by mustafazr
Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:43 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 813
Views: 353753

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

When it comes to collecting cash on various accounts, these guys will go all ballistic to mix faith tenets and wordly accounts, but when the tables are turned to show accountability again they dodge stating utmost obedience, trust, faith bullshit. Accountable only to faithful members = thieves like...
by mustafazr
Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:43 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 813
Views: 353753

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Thank you for your response, Ozdundee. Let me rebuke your comments in the order you presented them. 1,500,000,000 Muslims of Shia and Sunni agree on sujuds principles. I don't write history nor change ideology. Haqq is not about numbers, nor is it about the historical majority. Sunnis believe Abu Ba...
by mustafazr
Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:06 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016
Replies: 1065
Views: 440410

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

Visual presentation is everything. No. Haqq is everything. Sajda-e-Ibadah (Prostration of Worship) to anyone other than Allah ( سبحانہ و تعا لی ) is Shirk in Islam. A person who commits shirk is treated as out of Islam. Sajda-e-Tahiyya is a kind of greeting. In earlier times, when a person used to ...
by mustafazr
Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:25 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?
Replies: 410
Views: 108201

Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

The above email has been edited. The original email, which I am a recipient of, states "Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin Saheb RA" in the first line.