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What you did not consider Jai, is that the viscosity of blood would have rendered a blood-soaked-pigeon non-flightworthy. Bro you dont need to consider blood type, haemoglobin, viscosty test instead simply buy a white pigeon color it with fresh blood and fly it off. Even easier try going to a shia ...

I went to a waez and the fellow on the takht never went into sujood with one hand on his neck. Shame on him for not following the example set by Moula in Houston. But he did excel in story-telling a la Muffy. This is what he said: "Ashura na din Madina ma ek zaeef bairo na kaan ma ek khaufnaak...

SBM wrote:Sorry for the mis reading
But to my understanding Khadijah was the first one to take Misaq.

I taught you meant from the men, sorry there.

^ Jai What pile of nonsense you are talking about? Who calls Hazarat Ali a Kafir? where did you get this one.....He was the second person to take Misaq with Prophet Mohammed, :cry: :evil: Brother SBM, Kindly read the post again before calling it a nonsense. It is not hazrat Ali ibn Abu Talib we are...

It is very unfortunate that some of our muslim brothers consider Hadrat Abu Talib a.s kafir (nauzobillah ) based on some traditions like ( did not recite kalma ) and derive the conclusion therefore he died as kafir (nauzobillah). It is very sad that the person who suffered lot of hardship for the ca...

@anajmi, You Lair. If that was the case then why were you defending it initially by bringing in throne, this, that. You could have made it clear there and then. But when you see no way out this is what you do. It is nothing new. We have seen the level of maturity you have displayed over the years. Y...

Anyways, can you please show me where it is mentioned in the Quran that Allah swt is in the heavens? It is not. Did i say it is? Can you show me where? Albeit the quran does say that Allah is nearer to you than your jugular. As usual Anajmi tactic instead of defending or admitting like a man, he is...

Kya keh rahe ho bhaiyyaa ji. Hum to sirf itna batiya rahe hain ki upar wala unkihi kitabwa ma kahat hai ki unke hathwa hai aur unki thronewa bhi hai phir aap kyun unki kitabwa ka inkaar karke apna beda gark karwa rahit ho? Agar upar wale ki kitab mein aur hindu ki gita mein aapko koi farkwa najar n...

Jai, I would try to understand the context of the post before commenting on it. Now, read my above sentence again. I said "I would try to understand the context of the post before commenting on it." What does it mean? It means, I am not talking about myself but am talking about you. This ...

This isn't an explanation. This is a cop out. Allah isn't established in all things. This is a hindu belief. A hindu says (a gujarati hindu) kan kan ma bhagwan che. Meaning every grain has God in it. That is the reason why the hindus worship everything. They have a tree god, a monkey god, a money g...

anajmi wrote:

Do you know the location of Allah and Gibraeel?

Yes. They are in the heavens.

Brother Anajmi,

Could you please give proof or explain that Allah swt is in heavens.

Either 1) Angels having ilm e gaib or 2) the Angels had already witnessed a similar creation before. The first one is easy. In the same ayah Allah tells the angels that He knows what they know not. In 2:32 the angels claim that they know nothing more than what Allah has taught them. So no the angel...

Brother Anajmi, I request you to read my post once again. I have never spoken from a bohri or any other sects point of view. You quoted the incident of Adam a.s. and and there was question related to it I had therefore quoted the ayat 2:30 and gave details for discussion and clarification. With my l...

Yet, an "Aadam" did exist and his "fall" led to the creation of the Earth and its inhabitants. This is in contradiction to the Quran. Read surah Baqara. Allah says to his angels that he is going to create a khalifa on earth. The angels ask why he wants to create a khalifa who wi...

According to Adam, a Dai can appoint an impostor in one of those positions and keep him there for 50 years and that's allowed by our glorious daawat texts. True. Not just according to me. Rasulullah SAW did the same, and kept them in much higher positions than the Mazoon. Brother Adam, These are ve...

Ali means most high and is one of the attributes of Allah swt and is mentioned in 99 names as Al Ali and Quran. I apologize for continuing this subject. I fear that most people are bored by it. But, for completeness, I must comment on the quote above. Thank God The quote by Jai is accurate. There i...

Prophet's journey popularly known as Meraj consists of two events, Isra and Meraj. Isra is his journey from Makkah to Jerusalem and is mentioned in the Quran. Meraj is his journey to heaven described in a Sunni Hadith, which of course does not mention Ali at all. Both the Sunni Hadith and your desc...

In the couplet, the author actually says that Ali is Allah's name. That is not true. For discussions sake, Atleast in context of summoning both Allah and Ali "Ya Ali" is same. . However Bohras have a habit of calling upon Panjatan, Imams and Dai by using the vocative particle Ya. So when ...

Br. Jai, As far as my understanding goes word Ya is added to something which is present and can listen to you. Hence Shias say Ya Mohammed, Ya Ali etc. but Sunnis only say Ya Allah because only Allah is ever present and not other personalities including the Prophet. Br. asad, permissibility to call...

"Mazhaar che bhala kauun Khuda na ane ham naam, Maulana Ali che" [Who is the Manifestation of Allah and his namesake? Its Maulana Ali] Ali is not one of 99 names of Allah. It is al-Ali. This distinction is important. Ilah is not the name of Allah. It is al-Ilah which is shortened to Allah...

It is perfectly understandable to say that the couplet summarizes the mythology of meraj prevalent among Bohras. But that is not the 'understanding'. It is simply saying the same thing in non-verse form, repeating the claim that Ali and Allah are the same. This is what is known as ghulu, 'extremism...

Biradar, Cant we interpret the couplet from other point of view. Or try to understand why he is called manifestation of Allah swt. On what basis the writer is calling Ali a.s mazhar of Allah swt. When Rasullah sws went on meraj did he not see Ali a.s there and the words heard were spoken in the voi...

Salaam alaikum brothers and sisters, I have recently joined the forum. I was following the forum for sometime and got a lot of insight into the history of dawoodi bohras Salaam, If you want to learn about Dawoodi Bohras, you've come to the WRONG place. Salaam brother adam, Thank you for your advise...

FROM THE QUTBI BOHRA BLOG Misleading analysis of the word "Ablagh": Sijill #65 The Qutbi Bohra Sijill #65 states: "Syedna Taher Saifuddin’s Amal, in the context of the aforementioned Hadith, was the appointment of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA as his successor. That was his Amal Sal...

SBM wrote:Welcome on board and hope you will share your experience

Thank you brother sbm

Salaam alaikum brothers and sisters, I have recently joined the forum. I was following the forum for sometime and got a lot of insight into the history of dawoodi bohras, saifee mahal and their members and reality of present situation around the world. I truly would like to admit that before visitin...