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To those who say Sajda is not part of our faith, obedience to the Imam and his Dai is obedience to God. They are the best of God's servants and the best of God's worshipers:

Example of Maulana Salman al Farsi RA prostrating before Rasulullah SAW:

"It has been accounted from Salmaan ul-Farsi ...

You do realise that a lavish lifestyle also has to be funded. Where are those funds going to come from? The Imams were rulers and presumably got their funds through such means. How are the Dais, shehzadas funding their lavish lifestyle?

Imam Jafar al Sadiq AS was not a political ruler.

If the ...

It appears to me that Taher has not been to a circus, seen an elephant work in the logging industry or watched Life of Pi. If he'd had, he would not try to claim that humans cannot control these beasts.
Humans have always had the upper hand over wild animals. That places an even greater ...

Syedna Ahmad al Naysaburi RA, the Hujjat of Imam al Aziz AS and Imam al Hakim AS said:

"...Those animals who refuse to be under the control of man, like beasts of prey, with no benefit or merit, are judged by reason and law that it is acceptable kill, destroy and annihilate them because they ...

@SBM

I think I understand what you are saying, but as uncomfortable as it is, from religious perspective there is nothing wrong with saying lanaat, even on a family member.

Firstly, wasn't Abu Lahab the Messenger's SAW uncle? He is even condemned by name in the Holy Quran.

Secondly, Imam al ...

SBM wrote:Taher
I have question (more to follow depending on your answers)
Do you consider a Dai and his family to be the followers of Fatimid Imams?

Yes, I do.

@Biradar

I find your reply quite funny indeed! I only came to know about Syedna al Naysaburi RA because I read about him on this website and how highly praised he and his literature is by reformists!


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Syedna Ahmad al Naysaburi RA, the Hujjat of Imam al Aziz AS and Imam al Hakim AS said:

"...Those animals who refuse to be under the control of man, like beasts of prey, with no benefit or merit, are judged by reason and law that it is acceptable kill, destroy and annihilate them because they refuse ...

The Imams AS are completely infallible and immaculate, perfect in everyway. They are the best of Almighty God's servants.

If you are a Bohra (even reformist) you have no choice but to agree that the Imam AS is infallible completely.

If you are not a Bohra, why are you here?


Please prove the ...

According to Fatimid-Ismaili beliefs, hunting is allowed. I have proven it by giving multiple accounts of at least two Imams (AS) hunting.


It makes absolutely no difference. Imam's behavior is not Sunnah for us to follow. They are only infallible as to religious things. Not secular things like ...

Taher either you are really dumb or you are just too shameless to defend some thing which our prophet has considered bad and asked people to stop it.

@Al Noor,

You are missing the point. The Prophet (SAW) never said anything of the sort according to our Madhhab.

I have already accepted that ...

Our Madhhab is the Fatimid-Ismaili Madhhab. We believe in the concept of infallibility. The Imams AS would not ever commit sin. They are always on the path of the Sunna of the Prophet SAW and the path of the Quran .

Which part of the Sunnah and which part of Quranic ayats permits hunting for ...

H21

I don't know if they are facts as in actual historical records , they are narations

what you are presenting are statements that imply the Imam in discussions is allegedly going outside the Islamic teachings of The Prophet SAW value and Quranic instructions and legitimised sport hunting ...

I would like to reiterate my argument again, with reference to the Practice of the Imams of Ahlul Bayt, the Fatimid Caliphs AS.

Ibn Muyassar, Ibn al Athir, Ibn Khallikan and al Maqrizi; all state the Caliph al Aziz (AS), our fifteenth Imam used to excel at lion hunting and was a great patron of the ...

The focus is on Hamza (r.a.) and he is alleged to be a vivid hunter. Even if we presume that he was one then too there are no literatures to prove that he did it for pleasure !! It could well have been for consumption as its very difficult to digest the fact that a person of his stature could ...

is there any evidence that Ali ibn Talib AS went hunting for pleasure?
Let him also show a single instance wherein Prophet (s.a.w.) indulged in hunting for fun, pleasure and sport. Sunni/Shia Hadiths are always questionable as they were written more then 2 centuries after Prophet (s.a.w.) left for ...

What Taher bhai is suggesting that the actions of Hamza AS suprcedes the Quran , and Prophet's SAW advice ...he does not include or endorse the source if Sunni , while his is Shia.It is a matter of judgement ...one wants to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet or instead Jardani, or Hamza

My next ...

Forget about your ismaili bull crap, look at this from humanity view.

is it okay to have blood bath in innocent animal bloods for trophies and for unwanted photo shoot?

First be human then try to be muslim or ismaili.

btw from where does syedna gets money to pay jungle authorities to kill these ...

Prophet Muhammed(salawatullah alai salaam) is biggest authority in ISLAM, and this is his views on killing of innocent animals, now decide by yourself.





Prophet [S.A.W] said: "No human being kills a sparrow or [something] larger, without right, except that Allah will ask him about it (hold him ...

Can the author of above research site examples where he sourced that Hamza AS was a hunter and show evidence that the Prophet SAW or the early companions or ahlul bayt practised hunting for pleasure

Hamza, while returning from a hunting expedition, passed by the same way, his bow hanging by his ...

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Hunting according to Fatimid-Ismaili Islam

The following is from a work that I am currently preparing that aims at refuting the "Progressive" Doctrine, but due to far reaching ignorance of Fatimid beliefs on this forum, I feel I must post this part now. This work is in no way related to ...