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by Shams
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:13 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Death of SMS Mazoon?
Replies: 20
Views: 2504

Re: Death of SMS Mazoon?

I was going to point this out, the mazoon passed away and literally zero [DELETED] were given. Guess they couldn't be bothered between the urus shindig. No need to use foul language. Point can be made without using the foul words Hmmm, I guess we differ on what constitutes as foul language. Here, t...
by Shams
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:36 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Death of SMS Mazoon?
Replies: 20
Views: 2504

Re: Death of SMS Mazoon?

Moiz_Dhaanu wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:04 pm
In DMBS raaj , his lower 2 rutbas get awesome respect..see for yourself the enormous crowd gathered for burial ceremony of shz qasim bhai saheb
I was going to point this out, the mazoon passed away and literally zero [DELETED] were given. Guess they couldn't be bothered between the urus shindig.
by Shams
Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:04 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018
Replies: 97
Views: 15177

Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018

1. Ilm of Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin: Graduated from Al Jamea Tus-Saifiyah and Institute of Islamic Studies at Al-Azhar University. Held Amirul Jamea position for a long time under the leadership of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. 2. Accompanied Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin to his first historic Yemen v...
by Shams
Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:58 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2312
Views: 437400

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Gautam Patel is an impatient judge, not in a bad way. He does not suffer fools. He definitely believes in expediting the judicial process so the system can resolve more cases and that as the case ages, the proofs and witness accounts become more unclear and muddied, you can clearly see this from the...
by Shams
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2312
Views: 437400

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

This is so sad to read. The children have been brainwashed to the extent of rejecting their mothers affections. Clinical studies have consistently shown that a child's relation with his mother dictates his behavior as an adult towards women. Recent history is replete with serial killers and murderer...
by Shams
Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1103
Views: 125911

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... a-14370019

Surpising that the words 'Dawoodi Bohra' are nowhere mentioned in the article.
by Shams
Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2312
Views: 437400

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Bombay High Court Declaratory Suit 13th, 14th & 16th February 2018 Posted on February 18, 2018 The cross-examination of the Plaintiff, Syedna Taher Fakhruddin Saheb (TUS) continued on the 13th, 14th, and 16th of February 2018 in the Hon’ble Bombay High Court. On 13th February, Senior Counsel Mr. Iq...
by Shams
Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018
Replies: 97
Views: 15177

Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018

All i can hear in the back ground is ....... "Cover Aappo "........." Cover Aappo"........... :D :D God forbid he step into the home of one of his followers and not get paid!! The family look distinctly deflated/underwhelmed by the experience. Look at the boy to the left of Muffy. Notice how slyly ...
by Shams
Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1103
Views: 125911

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/3-in-4-bohra-girls-subjected-to-genital-mutilation-study/articleshow/62798259.cms Since the court had earlier dismissed the issue saying there was no evidence or data about the extent of FGM being an issue, now there is direct data that shows that the vast m...
by Shams
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1103
Views: 125911

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/l ... 109474856/

Most grievous charge dropped, remaining charges still add up to 20 years.
by Shams
Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:33 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018
Replies: 253
Views: 19865

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Aqa Maula tus na Farman mutabik, je mumin ni Dikrio physiotherapist doctor banwa Vaste college ma admission lidhu hoy e aa course ma si admission cancel karavi bija medical course ma admission lay le, Maula e vat si ghana naraj che ke koy dikri gair mardo ke gair comm na logo na hath pag pakdi temn...
by Shams
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:05 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Marrying a Bohra
Replies: 20
Views: 2849

Re: Marrying a Bohra

I couldn't help but marinate on this topic a little more and question the reason they would want you to sign such a document. Only one reason come to mind, maintaining status quo. Think of this, in every child custody battle the prime reason any one of the parent gets full custody of the child is if...
by Shams
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:32 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017
Replies: 300
Views: 40537

Re: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017

The sad part about this whole tatti deal is that if enough sheep bleat louder than usual, they will back off a bit and come back with another equally ridiculous farmaan. Unlike actual mafia, these ones dont actually have the conviction to follow through on their words. They bend and twist according ...
by Shams
Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:41 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017
Replies: 300
Views: 40537

Re: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017

Scroll.in article about the latest diktats...ummm sorry advisories... 8) https://scroll.in/article/861702/using-western-toilets-is-alien-to-our-culture-bohra-community-is-baffled-by-new-diktats I would ask them to book an appointment to visit my house to see what toilet I use and what food I eat, w...
by Shams
Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:15 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2312
Views: 437400

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Anajmi, I love the incoherence of your circular argument and your ability to stretch metaphors to their very limits. I may not be as well averse with historic references to current events as you are but can definitely see through baloney when I come across it. The dispute is not in the validity and ...
by Shams
Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2312
Views: 437400

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

The most hilarious thought crossed my mind yesterday. Kattar reformists have been, some might say foolishly, clamoring for a democratically elected Dai , instead of nepotism and heredity. And now they have one!!! SMS claim is only bolstered by the peoples support of it! Even if 2-5-20 years down th...
by Shams
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2312
Views: 437400

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

The most hilarious thought crossed my mind yesterday. Kattar reformists have been, some might say foolishly, clamoring for a democratically elected Dai, instead of nepotism and heredity. And now they have one!!! SMS claim is only bolstered by the peoples support of it! Even if 2-5-20 years down the ...
by Shams
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:11 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Marrying a Bohra
Replies: 20
Views: 2849

Re: Marrying a Bohra

Certain well versed people have commented here to sign the document and disregard it after. This is poor advice as : 1. Its easier said than done. Even if the groom was to do this, I could not see any scenario in which the family members of a groom would be ok with this, assuming he is close to his ...
by Shams
Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:27 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Marrying a Bohra
Replies: 20
Views: 2849

Re: Marrying a Bohra

dal-chaval-palidu wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:26 am
I have never signed anything like this, nor have I heard anybody sign something like this.
Brother DCP, never signed? How many times did you get married? :D :D Sorry couldnt resist.
by Shams
Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:25 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Marrying a Bohra
Replies: 20
Views: 2849

Re: Marrying a Bohra

Do i sign this at the nikkah?? We, the undersigned (girls full name) and (boys full name) undertake on our getting married to strictly adhere to the laws, rules, customs, traditions and culture of Dawat-e-Hadiyah and in all matters of religion, particularly matrimonial action, divorce, custody of c...
by Shams
Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:59 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017
Replies: 223
Views: 50353

Re: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017

What next? Inspection of your underwear drawer? Only white chaddis allowed... INSPECTION FORM OF MUMENIN HOUSE.pdf I'm gonna go on a limb here and say this is fake. Although I wouldnt say this is something some chaatu jamaat member wouldnt do, but we have to look at this objectively. Not sure who c...
by Shams
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:23 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017
Replies: 223
Views: 50353

Re: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017

Shams He didnt want to see the fights and altercations during his time as he would not have been able to control the actions of his own sons So in other words he was Coward and he called himself Dai of Imam Hussain :( I understand your point but disagree with the rhetoric. Instead of dividing thing...
by Shams
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:10 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Marrying a Bohra
Replies: 20
Views: 2849

Re: Marrying a Bohra

Hi, First of all, congratulations on your upcoming wedding and a married life. I would echo what other members said, that the oath is a formality (an unnecessary one!). That being said, it calls into question how principled of a stand you want to make. If you dont intend on following through with th...
by Shams
Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017
Replies: 300
Views: 40537

Re: Dawoodi Bohra in media 2017

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/other/bohras-can-only-wed-in-community-halls/articleshow/62030636.cms What’s wrong with this community? It’s turning more inward looking and isolationist by the day.... This will do nothing but polarize the community further. Any urbane/city dwelling bori ...
by Shams
Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2312
Views: 437400

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Dawoodi Bohra Succession Case, story so far: Fakhruddin claims historic precedents of private conferment of succession rights exist India Utkarsh Srivastava Dec, 08 2017 20:00:34 IST The Bombay High Court heard the case relating to the succession dispute for the spiritual head of Dawoodi Bohra commu...
by Shams
Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Fatimid and Ismaili texts, articles, books, publications- Readings and Thoughts
Replies: 0
Views: 496

Fatimid and Ismaili texts, articles, books, publications- Readings and Thoughts

Hi All, I am creating this thread with the intention and hope that we as a collective share our thoughts, readings and moments of epiphany in various Ismaili, Fatimid and Shia islamic scholarly texts, articles, translations and publications which have been created by scholars such as Ivanow, Henry C...
by Shams
Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:41 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017
Replies: 223
Views: 50353

Re: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017

This video captures you sentiment well OO: So the video says and shows that SMB had the highest love and respect for STS. They point out and the video shows SMB at the Qabr mubarak in solemn ibadat. Okay so then please think: Would he (SMB) disregard STS' wasiyat? Explain your statement in court th...
by Shams
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:39 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
Replies: 1103
Views: 125911

Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

yfm wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:04 pm
If a man can marry a man, and a woman can marry a woman, then one day a man can marry a young girl and a woman can marry a young men and then FGM will be a man or a woman's decision. That is where civilization will trample spirituality and every one will be happy.
Arey bhai kehna kya chahte ho
by Shams
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:37 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017
Replies: 223
Views: 50353

Re: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017

Indeed he seems to have gotten off the wrong side of the bed that day. I have a feeling that the fool will incriminate himself as the fake one even before Judge Patel gets around to doing it. I think he incriminates himself everyday and with his every action - you guys said so yourself- the pile of...
by Shams
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017
Replies: 223
Views: 50353

Re: Bohra WhatsApp duniya 2017

Check out this one: I think SKQ is remembered in MS majlises and by MS people more than in respective Fatemi Dawat majlises or their people!! Why the heck is he sticking “dawedar” into this? ===== Hame sagla mumenin mili ne em niyyat ane azam karye che ke aaje Maula tus ne takhat par bethi ne aa mi...