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by awakenedsoul
Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:57 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Replies: 1392
Views: 279062

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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by awakenedsoul
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:44 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Replies: 1392
Views: 279062

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun

So tragic. 2020 has been a terrible year.
by awakenedsoul
Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:39 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Where is Maula?
Replies: 216
Views: 25519

Re: Where is Maula?

I think the main reason they decided to have SMS do a live relay on the day of Imam Hassan Shahadat is because of his later appearance on the Aligarh University livestream (which btw was a recorded video). Imagine the blowback if he suddenly made an appearance on that public livestream whereas his o...
by awakenedsoul
Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:22 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Replies: 1392
Views: 279062

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

Whatever might be the circumstances, committing murder of family and suicide is a grave sin and a coward's way to deal with life. Everyone has problems but taking such a step should be frowned upon. The kids will probably get proper kafan and dafan but the parents will most probably not. Shariat do...
by awakenedsoul
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:15 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Replies: 1392
Views: 279062

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

Someone started this Reddit community. I think it's a great platform to bring awareness:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exDawoodiBohra ... urce=share
by awakenedsoul
Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:40 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Where is Maula?
Replies: 216
Views: 25519

Re: Where is Maula?

Moula is busy using wajebaat money to rank first on google for the search term "who is the best muslim in the world"
by awakenedsoul
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:07 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Replies: 1392
Views: 279062

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

Also it wouldn't be possible for SMS to do live bayaan because everyone would agree that Internet connection in India (however good and expensive) is not trustworthy. Doing ashara waaz live from Khandala is a big risk not worth taking. And I don't see any problem with having past waaz because so ma...
by awakenedsoul
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:53 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Where is Maula?
Replies: 216
Views: 25519

Re: Grand Ziyafat by imamat leads

I am wondering about the shukur ziyafat done by all imaamat leads worldwide. There were more than 74K people who lead imamat namaaz this year in their respective houses and finally they got azeeem sharaf of ziyafat on the day of eid. Now lets talk about some numbers. If 50K of them participated at ...
by awakenedsoul
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:23 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Where is Maula?
Replies: 216
Views: 25519

Re: Where is Maula?

Rashida saifuddin wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:20 am any thing new here
This forum has not been very active lately. I wish I'd registered a few years ago when it was at its peak, I was reading the earlier threads and a lot of important and helpful discussions took place.
by awakenedsoul
Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Replies: 1392
Views: 279062

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

juzer esmail wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:14 am Gullible Mumins being taken for a ride?
what does it say?
by awakenedsoul
Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:03 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE
Replies: 23
Views: 4642

Re: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE

Kafan dafan of imam is the penultimate ilm you or me as a mumin can get. If I'm not wrong its the 7th haqiqat kitaab. It doesn't mean that after that kitab you are done its just that its the last level, there's a lot of other kitabs which you can continue to pray bit they won't go to much deep or h...
by awakenedsoul
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE
Replies: 23
Views: 4642

Re: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE

Br Qadir Your two answers are contradictory. First you implied that you had knowledge of the funeral rites of Imam but could not mention it here since its haqiqat. Then you admitted that you have in fact not yet attended a haqiqat sabaq. I don't mean this in a wrong way but there is no shame in admi...
by awakenedsoul
Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:09 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE
Replies: 23
Views: 4642

Re: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE

Haqiqat bayan so cannot say here. Easy cop out when you do not know the answer. Again if Einstein and other great minds would have said the same thing, we still be living in Stone Ages ( oh yes, followers of Dai are still living in stone Age as they like to call themselves Abdes/Amtes-read Slave) T...
by awakenedsoul
Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:59 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE
Replies: 23
Views: 4642

Re: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE

dear sir (awakenedsoul) you want to say that from 9th to 20th imams, it mean total 12 imams grave yard in egypt in BAB MUKHFLT NEAR RASUL HUSSAIN A.S. But sir i study well in net, i did not find such authentic information about this, how it is possible that all 12 imams in one place and in one door...
by awakenedsoul
Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE
Replies: 23
Views: 4642

Re: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE

hello my brother and sisters, i have one topic regarding 21 imams and there buried place, because in net i found some imam information correctly and many imams still confusing me. please help me out to know exactly the buried place of all imams except for 21. below i find some information of imams ...
by awakenedsoul
Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:56 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE
Replies: 23
Views: 4642

Re: 21 IMAMS AND THERE BURIED PLACE

Qadir wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:45 pm Kafan and dafan of Imam is different from normal humans. Haqiqat bayan so cannot say here.
Huh? typical abde answer, attribute every aspect of our faith to taweel and haqiqat :roll:
by awakenedsoul
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:34 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Current state of mainstream madressa
Replies: 16
Views: 3637

Re: Current state of mainstream madressa

I would suggest that you let them go to madrassa at least for a few years so that they can learn the basics. However, you should keep a close eye on what they are being taught. Remember, majority of a child's education happens at home and your children will always trust you more than their teachers....
by awakenedsoul
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:10 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: I feel kinda stuck, need advice from those who have left mainstream bohras
Replies: 32
Views: 6024

Re: I feel kinda stuck, need advice from those who have left mainstream bohras

I feel for you awakened soul, having been in a similar situation myself and coming from a staunch East African jamaat. It’s really hard when your family are so indoctrinated and blind followers. I can’t have any sort of discourse on any negative community issues with any immediate family members. S...
by awakenedsoul
Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:31 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3062
Views: 703006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Are we so rich with time, that we still want to waste our times discussing these useless topics. Although I don't agree with the rest of your statements I second the above. It is amusing to see both sides arguing round and round in circles wasting time while their masters live in luxury and probabl...
by awakenedsoul
Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: I feel kinda stuck, need advice from those who have left mainstream bohras
Replies: 32
Views: 6024

Re: I feel kinda stuck, need advice from those who have left mainstream bohras

Br Mkenya Sounds like those were pretty awesome times. Some of the elders also reminisce about how things were different back then. From what I've heard our community in Canada is liberal. And your last post is a fitting summary of the succession issue :lol: It's very brute to ask where is Imam when...
by awakenedsoul
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: I feel kinda stuck, need advice from those who have left mainstream bohras
Replies: 32
Views: 6024

Re: I feel kinda stuck, need advice from those who have left mainstream bohras

Br SBM I reside in East Africa Br Shk Sajjad Hussain The world is not black and white as most people think. Just because I was born in a certain sect of Islam doesn't make it the ultimate true religion. I find it hard to believe that out of 6 billion people only a select few are guaranteed Jannah. A...
by awakenedsoul
Sun May 31, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: I feel kinda stuck, need advice from those who have left mainstream bohras
Replies: 32
Views: 6024

I feel kinda stuck, need advice from those who have left mainstream bohras

I was raised in a very religious family of abdes and have been brainwashed all my life. Until last year I too was a brain dead zombie with a narrow mindset. I began having doubts earlier on but didn't acknowledge them till about a year ago. I no longer have faith in the institution of dawat. What ma...
by awakenedsoul
Tue May 26, 2020 9:55 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Where is Maula?
Replies: 216
Views: 25519

Re: Where is Maula?

i saw the video. was quite perturbed by what i saw. Mufaddal Maula seemed to be in very low spirits. His whole body languages and mannerisms were very unlike of him He seemed depressed and unwell too. I hope there is nothing wrong and it was just an off day for him. Humble request to everyone to pl...
by awakenedsoul
Fri May 22, 2020 9:03 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Where is Maula?
Replies: 216
Views: 25519

Re: Where is Maula?

It is a well known fact that SMS is personally regressive to technology and technological change. He also doesn't like his pictures and videos publicised on electronic media which is the reason for the extra security on sites like zeninfosys,censorship and requirement of raza to take pictures or sha...
by awakenedsoul
Wed May 20, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imamat Namaz at Home
Replies: 59
Views: 9604

Re: Imamat Namaz at Home

In my experience the raza system today is flawed and only works for the privileged few who are connected to high profile bhaisahebs who have 24/7 access to the Syedna. The rest get a generic default 'raza' from kothar. I have seen this with my own eyes. A huge sheaf of papers containing all the raza...
by awakenedsoul
Mon May 18, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imamat Namaz at Home
Replies: 59
Views: 9604

Re: Imamat Namaz at Home

And now comes the price... Baad Salaam e Jameel, Aqa MaulaTUS has graciously bestowed Imamat Raza Mubarak to mumineen this Shehrullah. You are fortunate to be one of them. One cannot fathom the loftiness of this ne'mat jalilah; as you were destined to serve that MaulaTUS whose khidmat is rendered by...
by awakenedsoul
Sun May 17, 2020 11:21 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Questions for Knowledge
Replies: 27
Views: 5408

Re: Questions for Knowledge

Regarding maatam and gham of Imam Hussein(AS) it is also the belief of the bohras that the sacrifice of Imam Hussein and his ahle bait was supposedly payment of a debt on Rasulullah (SAW), we don't know exactly what this debt was. I am not sure whether this concept exists in other Shia school of tho...
by awakenedsoul
Thu May 14, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 3062
Views: 703006

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Having observed this thread over the last few days it is obvious that there are more Qutbi supporters here who frankly have double standards. You guys nitpick every little detail in the nass of MS but refuse to clearly explain or debate when asked about the nass of TF calling it 'fitnat' and 'perver...
by awakenedsoul
Wed May 13, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Questions for Knowledge
Replies: 27
Views: 5408

Re: Questions for Knowledge

Good Explanation Br/Sr Awakendsoul I got the same explanation from other source regarding 21 Raat Mubarak but that brings another question to mind Doing Maatam is expression of grief and getting a Darja of Shahadat is some thing of celebration. It is said that a Shaheed is guaranteed Janah and trad...
by awakenedsoul
Tue May 12, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Questions for Knowledge
Replies: 27
Views: 5408

Re: Questions for Knowledge

Salaam I like to get answers to the following questions. This is not for debate purpose but for knowledge 1- What is the purpose of Namaz-e-Istiftah? 2- Do Bohras observe "Aatikaaf" during last 10 days of Ramadan ( it is mentioned in Quran- Surah Al Baqrah Ayay 125) 3- Why do Bohras say 2...