Dawoodi Bohra Forum

What a waste of Bohra money....!!!! for his lust for name and fame.... we pay dearly....

Anyways University of Karachi are no fools... they got the money for their work and department and can very well justify why they 'sold' this degree to this guy.... as is he has a name... and following ...

Do we really need IMAM...??!!!!

If we need Imam, why God stopped sending prophets? He send 124,000, why not few hundred more ....!!!!???? Why He said - Today religion is complete and I like Islam for you. Why prohethood was ended?

What is the big reason for and of Imamet..??? And why not for ...

Salams to all,

I fully agree with you, all r right in their own way and S. Insaf has summarized it all.

MH, Ask Allah, He will give, dai is no one .... nothing .... he is a self-praising arrogant person having a luxurious life on OUR money with his henchmen and family.

And, I agree with ...

Congratulations Man......!!!!

You all will have BALLS of time...!!!! You may wish to sleep at his sermons and even at Tawasal Nee Namaz, but make sure you are well awake at JAMAN time ..... you have your recoveries to make..... thats all Bohraism is ...!!! I just want to add a quote:

Great ...

Anajmi

Agreed. Let me have some time to read it more thoroughly.

As I said I want to learn, so I will be asking and I am sure you will reply. Appreciate that.

As for Dai and all that, I tend to agree with you but there are hundreds out who care and for them it matters, so we have to ...

Anajmi and Average Bohra,

My motto is - Live and Let Live

Is there any way three religions and three people and live side by side.... there is beauty in diversity too ...!!! why do we have to ensure that everybody believes in what we believe, why cannot we accept as people are and leave the ...

Agreed.

Imam is Haq and he will come to rescue, no matter from whichever religion, but he will represent the oppressed and poor and slaves..!!! I believe it will be upon Imam to prove himself and make all believe in him.

Just a note: Current Dai is NO representative of Imam, because if he is ...

Agreed.

But here I donot intend to go that deep into discussions as I am no authority on Quran and its interpretation.

What we have been debating is the works of current Bohra Dai and his (mis)deed .... and of his henchmen and family. What we say is that he is changing so many things which are ...

Anajmi,

Your comments make sense...!!!!

I will write some more details as soon as I get some time (and I may have some questions, queries - say I have quest to learn..!!)

and Anajmi,

Who knew 1200 years ago that we will FLY, but Quran has references and far others for ages to come, what Quran said 500 years back may not have made snese then and may not have been intrepreted, but today it makes all the sense and we can appreciate that.. right. SO i mean to say that ...

Anajmi,

I NEVER said anything about Quran or its relevance. Quran for EVER...!!!! what i meant was some traditions, customs and so of the things which Muslims keep on doing till today, those may have become irrelevant, like folding the pants before Namaz (done in Saudia) and things like that, and ...

Borther Muslim First

Thank you very much for this input.

Christians beleive that Christ will come and conquer.... and indeed it is our belief too that Christ will come ..... he will pray behind Mahdi or not, is different and difficult issue. BUT all the religions agree that one Messiah will ...

Average Bohra,

I have been reading your posts. I fully agree with you.

All religions and books are to be read and understood, interpreted in the light of time and age and keeping in mind the ground realities. The things which were applicable say 1200 years ago or 800 or 500 are not applicable ...

Anajmi

Agreed about Truth and its source. You have to have the Trust in the Source and even Faith to accept the Truth. Let me tell you that is Religious Divide. At times coz of this Divide we fail to accept and understand the Truth, right..??!! We want to hear and learn from OUR source and ...

Good job by every one.

We wait for Khan to come up with his analysis.

Anajmi:

Keep it cool man.... and honestly lets answer what Average Bohra is saying, lets be constructive, he raised so many points and he is right .... and u r right too in some ways.

And Average Bohra

We appreicate ...

Hi Anajmi

Why do you want ME to answer..??? Do u care about the ANSWER and its correctness or you are more concerned with WHO is answering..???

Average Bohra...

Thanks my friend, you have answered Anajmi.

PLUS there are so many other things. I say again - there are good and bad things ...

Very good Humsafar, very right....!!!
What else one could say... they are a part of the cult and more so willingly, so who can help the one who doesnot want the help. thwy all want to live in a Foll's Paradise, so be it. We, the reformists, inside or outside the community have to keep doing our ...

NOBODY is PERFECT as perfection doesnot exist. Bohras, Sunnis, Shias, Saudis, American, Palestine, Israel, whatever.....!!!!!! everybody has to learn to give and take - COMPROMISE.... we have to forget the POWER and try to educate ourselves .... come up to some thing, HOW, i donot know. There are a ...

Thank God ....... he is not coming.... do not let him come here ....... we donot have anything for him here ....... enough is enough, we are sick and tired of his tamashas and tired of humiliations and insults ........ let he and his henchmen and so-called royal family have a flying .....!!!!!!

Imam or No Imam,
Get rid of Dai ...... he is sham, arrogant, tyrant, thug ........ he is no spokesman of Imam, if Imam is of that importance, let him come out, enough is enough, why is he is Parda, why, what are the reasons now ... the time is ripe and there is lot of religious freedom, IF one ...

........ and the list goes on and on and on .... when will bohras wake up, are they such a fools and cannot read ......... we all are somewhat educated and even if not, is it so hard to notice what these Royal Family Looter and Thugs are doing ....... they are all Prices and Princess with a King and ...

Hard facts.....!!!!
Generally bohras are fools or they like to that way..!!! they kind of like the atmosphere and the way of living.... They are paying and WISE are minting money.... The Dai is becoming richer and richer and with that more arrogant and more tyrant.....!!!!!! Nothing will improve ...

My friend, there are only TWO things in Bohras - Matam and Jaman and offcourse we are an Aman-Pasand community. Syedana needs somthing to bind bohras other than his figure too - i mean he needs a) to prove he is 'something' and can do and deliver 'everything' BUT he needds some ground or basis for ...

Bohras have nothing else except all those things and then JAMAN which is food.....!!!!! Their Dai wants them to waste time in all this rubbish....

Thanx guys. Specially Observer. U r right, we are bekans and cowards, but we still ahve to keep the hope alive, we have to come up, say something. As Prophet (PBUH) said, the least thing is that if u know something is bad, hate it from ur heart, so we have to be little bit more brave, use these ...

What is all this Taboodat..??? Another way of keeping Bohras busy..!!! in age old rituals. This is as an Urdu saying goes - Naee bottle may puranee sharab..... change of name - it was Darees, now it is bcoming old and people find no joy in that, so here comes new one, with some add ons... hahaha ...