Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Turbo,

Anajmi has explicitly condemned these acts, and you've to respect that. With your last response, you're unnecessarily risking turning this thread into another Ismaili-bashing session.

Muslim First, Don't worry about Kothar. You are not going to be representing them, and the Dai is not going to be holding your hand. Just take care of yourself. Work on a better interpretation for yourself that'll help take the poison for other humans out of your heart, as well as prevent you from c...

I think we should separate the authority into two parts, spiritual and administrative. The Dai has no spiritual authority.

Good one Anajmi!
It'll be easier to tackle Burhanuddin without the cover of religion.

While we may not be able to do much about removing borders, we surely can religion. Kaka, why just wish about it. Do it. You don’t have to wait for organized religions to be formally abolished. You can reject them. And you can stop bribing amils and mullahs, bhaishahebs, etc and donate the money i...

Anajmi, I don’t have to respond to you since you’ve found the sect that has given you complete fulfillment, and I’m happy for you. I’ll respond here, though, for the benefit of Kabeer. I wouldn’t be trying to justify him leaving, when I’m still in! With this discussion, Kabeer is a winne...

Kabeer, Thanks for starting this thread. I had missed the opportunity to respond to you last time. To continue from the previous post, Rahi, if you say that Progressives can pray in the Holy Harrams with the congregation and pray in Sunni mosques than I am sorry to say that you are making a "de...

Kabeer, You got me confused. You started by questioning how the progressives would elect the Dai when you don’t even believe in his office! When I asked the ex-bohras to come back and join the reform, I thought I’d made it clear that I was appealing only to the ones who left because they were di...

Al-Muizz, As for Lariba, etc. Did you know who funds Lariba? It is Fanny Mae. Fanny Mae "gives" Lariba a loan at a set interest rate, then Lariba turns around and "partners" with you for a property for a set "profit" which is actually interest. They appraise the propert...

Seeker110, For interest free loans, please visit Lariba . It is based on the concept that you purchase your home jointly with the lender on a lease-to-purchase basis. You rent the house you partially own. Your make monthly payment to yourself and the lender in the ratio of ownership. However, the re...

Kabeer, You escaped physical harassment thanks to your significant financial contribution. However, by thus bribing the kothar, you not only condoned their atrocious demands but your inaction also encouraged the kothar to continue to suck the lifeblood out of the poor Bohras. And, as you know, it do...

Zeal, Udaipur revolution indeed was something brilliant done and also it left a deep mark on the long suffering history of bohras. But what I am saying is we need to do something more than this to change the mass, educate them about their misconceptions. Udaipur definitely has created their own jama...

Kabeer, The institution of Dai for Bohras is as important as that of Pope for Catholics. Bohras, like any organized system, require a leader otherwise there will be chaos. The position of Dai provides religious leadership. Taher Saifuddin and Burhanuddin, in the name of this position, extended their...

Questioning the authority is extremely difficult. Even when you look at the initial reform movement in Udaipur, you will see that the authority was not questioned. It was a prominent but non-office-holding citizen questioned by another. If the kothar had not taken sides, or if they had not beaten up...

If it were possible to question the authority – local or central – it would have been done by now. Even the reform in Udaipur did not start by questioning the authority. The reformists were thrown out of he community by Syedna inspite of all the begging and pleading by them to be forgiven. The r...

Only young whipper-snappers CAN bring a meaningful change as they have less to lose to take a stand and I pray that a large number of them will wake up from their slumber and have a face-off with the arrogant and spoiled, corrupt heirarchy of our religion or sect. Why don't you start with your chil...