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by progticide
Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:51 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The True Imam - How would you verify?
Replies: 1032
Views: 82155

Re: The True Imam - How would you verify?

1. How old is DBs existence ? Before Imams went into Seclusion or DBs were formed entirely in era of seclusion of Imams ? 2. Is Concept of Seclusion of Imam one of the tenets of DB faith or compulsory tenet of DB faith ? You have always sought answers with wrongly phrased questions at the wrong pla...
by progticide
Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The True Imam - How would you verify?
Replies: 1032
Views: 82155

Re: The True Imam - How would you verify?

Remember after 'Satr' when 11th Imam Molana Mehdi a.s. did zuhoor he punished Abu Abdullah, the Dai who went corrupt like present Kothar! So, when Imam do next 'zuhoor', please beware and correct all that is materially incorrect. But I know the cycle of 'Satr' is in state of severe times, Kothar wi...
by progticide
Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:19 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspective
Replies: 88
Views: 6919

Re: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspecti

Read the history books. Kamzarf Mushriq o Munafiq, Jab tere baap, aur tere baap ke baap aur uske baap ke baap.....going back 1400 years....koi agreement ka record nahi pesh kar paaye, toh tu kahan se layega.....Baap na maari mendki, aur beta tirandaaz. Phir bhi ek aur chance deta hu tujhe... Kindly...
by progticide
Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspective
Replies: 88
Views: 6919

Re: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspecti

X,Y and Z have full authority from B. The power of attorney/authorisation by A in favour of B dated 18th of Dhu al-Hijjah of 10 AH in the Islamic calendar (March 10, 632 AD) at a place called Ghadir Khumm and formally registered in the records of Allah in the book named Al Quran Majid, chapter 5, v...
by progticide
Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:03 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspective
Replies: 88
Views: 6919

Re: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspecti

So who was the Imam during the time of Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman? Apparently, Imam Ali, had to wait for his turn to resolve the issues, so he couldn't be the Imam during those times correct? Kamzarf Mushriq O Munafiq, Have already humiliated you on the topic "Authority" under section "Islam Today"....
by progticide
Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:44 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspective
Replies: 88
Views: 6919

Re: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspecti

Repeat: For Dawoodi Bohras it is ONLY DAI AL MUTLAQ . Since all the preceding ranks upto the Bab al Abwab are also in seclusion along with the Imam, hence they are equally inaccessible as the Imamuz zaman to the ordinary Dawoodi Bohras including Dawat functionaries under the Dai Al Mutlaq. The absol...
by progticide
Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:14 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

anajmi wrote:Read the history books.
Kindly provide the details of the date, place and copy of the agreement between B & X/Y/Z and the reference of the deed Registration.
by progticide
Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:47 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

X,Y and Z have full authority from B. The power of attorney/authorisation by A in favour of B dated 18th of Dhu al-Hijjah of 10 AH in the Islamic calendar (March 10, 632 AD) at a place called Ghadir Khumm and formally registered in the records of Allah in the book named Al Quran Majid, chapter 5, v...
by progticide
Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:44 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspective
Replies: 88
Views: 6919

Re: Necessity of Infalliable Imam - Dawoodi Bohras Perspecti

The usual answer is that Imam operates by inspiring (through ilhaam) certain individuals who then proceed to have followers. For Bohras, this individual is the Dai. For Dawoodi Bohras it is NOT necessary only Dai Mutlaq. There are other functionaries and missionaries of Dawat. Correction: For Dawoo...
by progticide
Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:53 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

Hazrat Ali was reporting to them, and then succeeded them as number 4. All members, So what anajmi is suggesting is that: 1. Prophet(SAWW) passed the authority to Maula Ali. Thereby Maula Ali, as per the authority invested in him by the Prophet(SAWW) became the authority over the muslim ummah. 2. B...
by progticide
Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

So you are saying that in matters of Islam, people have more power than Allah himself? Let me rephrase your above question to make it answerable: Anajmi's Question : So you are saying that in matters of wahabism, people have more power than Allah himself? Answer : Why dont you wahabis decide this a...
by progticide
Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:46 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: New Zaris for Imam Hussein- Shia victims vs Wahabi rants
Replies: 13
Views: 2455

Re: New Zaris for Imam Hussein- Shia victims vs Wahabi rant

Br Fateh As usual timid response to a bulli from Kothar. Who calls every body by Munafiq or Kafir. Kamzarf Mushriq o Munafiq, Hamare yahan kutte ko kutta, suwar ko suwar, gadhe ko gadha aur munafiq ko munafiq hi kahan jaata he. Ab aap jitni tehzeeb hamare yahan kahan he. Aap Jaahil ko Maulvi kehte ...
by progticide
Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:05 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: If one not paying waajebat and sabil ?
Replies: 40
Views: 4647

Re: If one not paying waajebat and sabil ?

This may sound hilarious to some and shocking to others, but here is exactly what my source told me last night and I was literally laughing my way back home: My source -"Dude, now its your turn to be banned from the forum. Tune sab ki aisi bajaayi he that now some guys are actually lobbying to have...
by progticide
Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:46 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: If one not paying waajebat and sabil ?
Replies: 40
Views: 4647

Re: If one not paying waajebat and sabil ?

Munafiq, Is it so? Then, you are stating that DB majalis are sessions for trading Islam? But then, this is such a crime! Or is it that Allah himself wants this to happen? Maybe a quick reading of Holy Quran, Surah at Tawbah, Ayat 111(Holy Quran 9:111) is what is needed by you. By God, DBs are tradi...
by progticide
Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:32 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: If one not paying waajebat and sabil ?
Replies: 40
Views: 4647

Re: If one not paying waajebat and sabil ?

Bro seeker in majalis of db there is not religion speech actually these majalis are marketing speeches ,they are selling Islam Munafiq, Is it so? Then, you are stating that DB majalis are sessions for trading Islam? But then, this is such a crime! Or is it that Allah himself wants this to happen? M...
by progticide
Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:23 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: If one not paying waajebat and sabil ?
Replies: 40
Views: 4647

Re: If one not paying waajebat and sabil ?

Zinger bhai jab mei majlis mei jata houn tua mei koie alim sea khuch seekhna mangta houn. Mei chahta houn ke bolne wale ne ous ki taqrir par kutch mehnat ke hou.Waiz mei koie flavor nahi hota.Bilkul koe jahil shaksh uot patang bak ta hou. Jab mei dekhta houn ke merea 18 saala beta 10 sae 15 mintoon...
by progticide
Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: New Zarih for Imam Husain
Replies: 116
Views: 16163

Re: New Zarih for Imam Husain

Bohra Reform is not against the Fatemi-Tayyibi doctrines and it is not in business to convert Bohras into Wahhabies or even Sunnis. These two Wahhabies have been playing the same old record - "Bohras are idol-worshippers, ali-worshippers, Husain-worshippers etc: - for the past ten years. They do no...
by progticide
Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:40 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Chartered flights.
Replies: 30
Views: 4827

Re: Chartered flights.

btw we are ummat of prophet MUHAMMED(s) and not of sulaiman and dawood, so best example for us to follow MUHAMMED(s) and ALI(s). so now tell me do u see life of present DAI near any of these two personalities? Aalu Bukhare, Insaan ki Jitni Aql ho utni hi baat karni chahiye, auqaat aur Aql se zyada ...
by progticide
Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:46 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Chartered flights.
Replies: 30
Views: 4827

Re: Chartered flights.

Hazrat Dawood Nabi and Hazrat Sulaiman Nabi were probably the richest and wealthiest Anbiya whom Allah also blessed with Kingdom to rule over. Can any of you munafiq reformists and their mushriq sympathisers who are displaying crocodile tears for the poor DBs and making the lifestyles of the Dai an...
by progticide
Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:51 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

One fact is crystal clear that the reformist's love for the Sunni/wahabis is more stronger than their hatred for DBs. Evident from the above post of this dog Al Zulfiqar. He has picked a side in a debate between Ismaili Tayyebi vs. Sunni/wahabi. He prefers to side with the characters like Munafiq A...
by progticide
Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:54 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Glorious Quran
Replies: 68
Views: 6475

Re: The Glorious Quran

When Anajmi's mom was pregnant with him: Anajmi's Grandpa: What do you wish, O Anajmi's father? Anajmi's father: A son. Anajmi's Grandma: What do you wish, O Anajmi's mother? Anajmi's Mother: A daughter. Anajmi's day of birth, Grandpa and Grandma visit maternity home. Anajmi's Grandpa & Grandma: Wh...
by progticide
Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:40 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

Anajmi, Were you ever infected with Rabies? There is a very strong reason why I am asking you this question. There are not many people in this world who survive after getting infected with Rabies through an animal bite. If one is not immediately vaccinated/take anti-rabies shots quickly after an an...
by progticide
Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:22 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The True Imam - How would you verify?
Replies: 1032
Views: 82155

Re: The True Imam - How would you verify?

Reminder to All, The subject of this thread is : The True Imam - How would you verify? If you have anything relevant associated with this subject then you are free to make your contribution here. However, for inter-personal arguments and personal gossip please excuse this thread. There are many othe...
by progticide
Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:20 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

Can you quote a single Ayat from the Holy Quran or an authentic Hadith which establishes the Khilafat of your khalifas as the will of Allah or the will of the Prophet(SAWW)? Take this ayah from the Quran - وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلاَئِكَةِ إِنِّي جَاعِلٌ فِي الأَرْضِ خَلِيفَةً . Khalifa is clear...
by progticide
Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:55 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Glorious Quran
Replies: 68
Views: 6475

Re: The Glorious Quran

And I have the power to make any word of the Quran mean anything, I can make a book mean a human and human mean a super human because Allah doesn't know I am an idol worshipper and have to elevate my idol even if I make a mockery of the words of Allah!! Kamzarf Mushriq o Munafiq, I am sure you are ...
by progticide
Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:53 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

Can you please quote a single Ayat from the Holy Quran or an authentic Hadith which establishes the Khilafat of your khalifas? There is no need of it. We believe Quran to be final authority. Simple straight itransations or interpretations are sufficient for us. Muhammad is our final prophet. There ...
by progticide
Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:55 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The True Imam - How would you verify?
Replies: 1032
Views: 82155

Re: The True Imam - How would you verify?

once again, need help finding the risalas? Munafiq, You need the risalas because you are in search of the truth that is eluding you because you are blinded by arrogance and therefore cant see the true path which is there right in front of you. You are lost because of your arrogance and think that t...
by progticide
Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:29 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Authority?
Replies: 57
Views: 4233

Re: Authority?

I don't mind going back to square one. I have been going back to square one for the last 10 years. Let me start from square one. Everything happens with the will of Allah. Allah made them khalifa and Hz Ali accepted their khilafat. . Mushriq o Munafiq Finati, Answer this.....Allah, the almighty and...
by progticide
Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:51 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Glorious Quran
Replies: 68
Views: 6475

Re: The Glorious Quran

According to you 2:2 is referring to a person who has memorized the Holy Quran before anyone else. Since 2:2 is not the final ayah revealed, it is not possible for this ayah to refer to a specific individual who has memorized the Quran. Kamzarf Mushriq o Munafiq, Who are you to decide what Allah is...
by progticide
Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:06 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Glorious Quran
Replies: 68
Views: 6475

Re: The Glorious Quran

When you attend sabak you develop these fairy tales that the Quran was memorized by one person even before it was revealed to the prophet (saw). Along with Jahil and Ahmak, I should also add Liar and Fitnati to your list of titles. Kamzarf Munafiq, I challenge you on this forum to quote my post whe...