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by AgnosticIndian
Thu May 05, 2016 1:53 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 117094

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

Alivasan, you are free to move to Saudi Barbaria as the crime rates are less there. And don't forget to tell us how the Saudi Barbarians treat you. Rule of law allows you appeals. Not crapoy things like women having to produce 4 make witnesses to prove rape or get stoned for adultery. Or get hands c...
by AgnosticIndian
Wed May 04, 2016 9:19 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 117094

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

This so called 'democratic country and it's crapy constitution' has made it possible for ordinary mulla taher saifuddin turn into organized mafia full of atrocities. Instead If shariat law would have been in place the situation would have been relatively much better today. This mafia is no differen...
by AgnosticIndian
Wed May 04, 2016 11:05 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 117094

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

India is a democratic country with rule of law and constitution that guarantees freedom of speech and expression and freedom to practice whatever he wants to in terms of religious beliefs. We don't follow Shariah law (which itself has no basis) in India to have people declared fit to be killed.
by AgnosticIndian
Wed May 04, 2016 10:15 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 117094

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

According to the Islamic Law the person who commits insult of Rasuullah(SAWA) and Ahl al Bait is Wajib ul Qatl. But BeySharam family of Mufaddal Saifuddin provides VIP status to Badri Maloon, who committed Tawheen of Al Khamsatul Athaar in Houston Masjid during Muharram Tamasha last year. Badri is ...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun May 01, 2016 6:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 600
Views: 179049

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Taher Fakhruddin is wahid ummeed of this community, but again only if he accepts mistakes done by his elders and rectify it by doing tauba and removing all unislamic rituals from bohra fold, including sajda and wadhawanu. Dua for Momeen. Wadhawu is very much part of Indian & Bohra culture which was...
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:19 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: What we are missing !!!
Replies: 13
Views: 3716

Re: What we are missing !!!

+1. Religion, a man made crutch. Has taken millions of lives fighting over whose religion is best. There seems to be a correlation between religiosity of a society and poverty. Some reasons that I could discern: 1. Religions and their institutions take away the surplus money, time and energy of thei...
by AgnosticIndian
Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:52 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin mandates FGM! Audio proof
Replies: 77
Views: 20160

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin mandates FGM! Audio proof

A video of the speech will help make a case against him. I hope someone has it
by AgnosticIndian
Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:02 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin mandates FGM! Audio proof
Replies: 77
Views: 20160

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin mandates FGM! Audio proof

OMG..Muffadal is such big hypocrite..he issued fatwa and challenged. I think..Oz bhai someone should send the audio clip to press and media in india. Masuma ranalvi and other womens activist group should show the audio clip proof to Rajdeep Sardesai and invite followup debate on topic. Listen caref...
by AgnosticIndian
Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:59 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin mandates FGM! Audio proof
Replies: 77
Views: 20160

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin mandates FGM! Audio proof

He says humne koi na si dar nathi but he didn't utter the word Khatna/Khafz and said tamey samjho chhe ne mein su kev chhu. So much for his guts
by AgnosticIndian
Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 600
Views: 179049

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

I appreciate the struggles the reformists have gone through but its getting frustrating to read your gripes. I agree with your concerns for financial accountability. But from the waaz yesterday it was clear STF is a business minded person and accountability and transparency will not be an issue. No...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:33 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dream Project of Bhendi Bazar
Replies: 943
Views: 232957

Re: Dream Project of Bhendi Bazar

The SBUT site says it has not appointed anyone to negotiate or sell properties on its behalf and warns of fraudulent transaction which it won't be responsible for.

So who is this person advertising and is he scamming people?
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:10 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dream Project of Bhendi Bazar
Replies: 943
Views: 232957

Re: Dream Project of Bhendi Bazar

If the project is for upliftment of the residents of te area, how is that there are messages inviting investments? Investors to get flats before residents get theirs?
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:36 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Replies: 600
Views: 179049

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

subcon111 wrote:I think he is reading from a script. Regardless, the approach is different and refreshing.
Most likely he is reading from a TelePrompTer. His eyes are fixed in one direction
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohras going back to their roots under Modi/Muffy Raj
Replies: 26
Views: 5466

Re: Bohras going back to their roots under Modi/Muffy Raj

The "Wrong" over here is the double standards practiced by the Bohra clergy. On one hand they say that "Hindu na haath nu khaavu nahi" and on the other hand they take part in Hindu rituals. There is Rumaal for Bohras during Talakki but they don't have any problems in "Galey lagaaving" Muslim haters...
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohras going back to their roots under Modi/Muffy Raj
Replies: 26
Views: 5466

Re: Bohras going back to their roots under Modi/Muffy Raj

The "Wrong" over here is the double standards practiced by the Bohra clergy. On one hand they say that "Hindu na haath nu khaavu nahi" and on the other hand they take part in Hindu rituals. There is Rumaal for Bohras during Talakki but they don't have any problems in "Galey lagaaving" Muslim haters...
by AgnosticIndian
Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohras going back to their roots under Modi/Muffy Raj
Replies: 26
Views: 5466

Re: Bohras going back to their roots under Modi/Muffy Raj

I Rizwan wrote:
What's wrong in people going to each other's places of worship?
nothing wrong, but for a muslim falling on idol feet is wrong, our religion is based on oneness of ALLAH. (this is basic of our deen nothing to do with wahabi or any other ideology)
They are offering flowers.
by AgnosticIndian
Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:13 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohras going back to their roots under Modi/Muffy Raj
Replies: 26
Views: 5466

Re: Bohras going back to their roots under Modi/Muffy Raj

Symbol of religious harmony. What's wrong in people going to each other's places of worship? Indians have always had this and it still exists although it may be dying due to hardening of minds thanks to the influx of Wahabi money and ideology.
by AgnosticIndian
Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:56 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why you call yourself Progressive Dawoodi Bohras
Replies: 29
Views: 6001

Re: Why you call yourself Progressive Dawoodi Bohras

From what I have seen, many of the so called progressives are closet Islamists
by AgnosticIndian
Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:07 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 117094

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

Everyone interprets Quran as per their agenda, benefit. Everyone calls the other a hypocrite and both sides use Quranic verses to justify the same. ISIS calls others apostates, hypocrites & kills them and cites Quranic verses for it. The argument goes in circles when one considers a text as absolute...
by AgnosticIndian
Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 117094

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

This "hypocrisy" thing is also used by Dai to stoop role from reading any contrary material.

Anyone who questions is branded Munafiq, hypocrite.

Nothing should be beyond critic, critical analysis. Radicalism has meant that any kind of questioning has been smothered by violence.
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Pall over Bohras - call to revolt
Replies: 24
Views: 4375

Re: Pall over Bohras - call to revolt

The need to "belong" to a community. To preserve business which is dependent on others from the community, socialize etc etc There are many who disapprove but are looking the other way as far as revolt goes. Probably an early demise of MS with no successor announced will put an end to the goonda raj
by AgnosticIndian
Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:51 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Replies: 2436
Views: 548570

Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

Ok. So you tell me now. Let me ask you a very simple question. When did he died? On 30th March or 31st March? look dude I dont care if SKQ died or if he is still alive in US. (most probably he is alive and ticking, Allah knows best) what matters to me is his simple life which he lived all his life,...
by AgnosticIndian
Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:02 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2016
Replies: 293
Views: 59883

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2016

Conning people is hard work. To fool people all the time does require hard work, skill, perseverance SMS takes around 200-300 misaqs in a day sometimes.  do you know that the misaqs he takes is on chargeable basis. 2. Using the wird Ayyash is inappropriate. Yes he spends bit more than normal public ...
by AgnosticIndian
Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:02 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Stop blaming Islam for global terror
Replies: 10
Views: 3409

Re: Stop blaming Islam for global terror

Islam is a religion of peace. Terrorists are no Muslims is our way to fight radicalization. Living in denial or running away will not solve the problem. The ISIS or Al Qaeda are Muslims. We call them Takfiris for them declaring other Muslims as non Muslims but then we call them non Muslims is OK. Re...
by AgnosticIndian
Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:10 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: 5 things you didn’t know about Islam and Europe
Replies: 38
Views: 6150

Re: 5 things you didn’t know about Islam and Europe

Europe is the hotbed for Islamists. A recruiting ground for ISIS. Jis thali me khaya, usi mein chhed.
by AgnosticIndian
Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Maharashtra: Fadnavis’s New Bill On Social Boycott Is Most Welcomed
Replies: 35
Views: 5638

Re: Maharashtra: Fadnavis’s New Bill On Social Boycott Is Most Welcomed

I agree that SKQ needs to establish personal contact with Bohras in general and should come out in the open and visit towns/cities having sizeable Bohra population. The only fear (or excuse) could be the violent outburst of MS goons which on the contrary would go in favour of SKQ as this could be a...
by AgnosticIndian
Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Maharashtra: Fadnavis’s New Bill On Social Boycott Is Most Welcomed
Replies: 35
Views: 5638

Re: Maharashtra: Fadnavis’s New Bill On Social Boycott Is Most Welcomed

Those in Mumbai & other parts of Maharashtra who have been excommunicated or face participation should file a case against MS AND KQ as claimants to MB.

This is a good law.
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 117094

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

Has he bought the Taj? May be next daakhli system wali qabar will be in Taj, 54th will ensure that Aje muffadal mola shah jahan ane mumtaz ni ziyarat vaste agra padhara. Mola mola muffadal mola. IMG-20160225-WA0013.jpg IMG-20160225-WA0014.jpg IMG-20160225-WA0015.jpg IMG-20160225-WA0016.jpg IMG-20160...
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:00 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016
Replies: 1065
Views: 302141

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

What's the letter about if you or anyone has received it? Forwarded as Received :- IMPORTANT MESSAGE Laeen Dawedaar Mumineen na ghar ma by post letter mokeli rahyo che.... Khuda na kare koi na bhi ghar ma aawe to apna area na Amil saheb ne contact kari ne letter saupi dejo...... Khuda har Mumin ne M...
by AgnosticIndian
Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016
Replies: 395
Views: 117094

Re: Muffadal Saiffudin and related topics -2016

Al-Noor wrote:Bhai colombo has some interesting story we need to dig it out. Colombo is like 10 visits in a year.

any one knows truth about colombo?
Must have bought some properties in the new port city being built by the Chinese