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by porus
Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ways to make people aware of this Forum
Replies: 40
Views: 5971

Re: Ways to make people aware of this Forum

But all other titles like Hujjat, Babul Abwaab, Dai Zazeera, Dai Balagh, Dai Mutlaq, Mazoon, Mukasir, etc are appointed by Imam - their is no inheritance. badrijanab bhai, I understand that the office of Dai al-Mutlaq was created by Hurrat al-Malika. I am not sure about the offices of Mazoon and Mu...
by porus
Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:21 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

With regard to the name of the sura 3 (Aal-e-Imran), some (I think the Shia) have speculated that instead of it referring to 3:34 meaning Maryam's father, it actually refers to 3:61. 3:61 describes the episode of Mubahila in which Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain were involved according to hadith. I f...
by porus
Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:41 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

porus wrote:3. Aal-e-Ibrahim did not end with Muhammad. Ali is part of it and it continues through Imams from Ali and Fatima.
While the above is correct, after Muhammad we refer to Aal-e-Ibrahim as Aal-e-Muhammad, which includes all subsequent Imams.
by porus
Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:15 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

alwan, Why do you think that 3:35 refers to Abu Talib? 003:033-034 God chose Adam and Noah and the House of Abraham and the House of Imran above all beings, the seed of one another; God hears, and knows. Because God names the chosen families in chronological order (i.e. Adam, Noah, Aal-e-Ibrahim, A...
by porus
Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:44 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

Just for information sake - Maula Ali(as)'s father's name was Imran. Abu talib was his kuniyat (son of Talib). Thank you for pointing that out. So, I need to correct my last response to alwan. There are 3 Imrans: Imran 1 is Father of Musa Imran 2 is Father of Maryam (This is the one mentioned in th...
by porus
Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:46 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

003:033-034 God chose Adam and Noah and the House of Abraham and the House of Imran above all beings, the seed of one another; God hears, and knows. Porus, wouldn't it be more rational to say both Imrans (Moses's father and Mary's father) come from Aal-e-Ibrahim, and Ali and his chosen Descendents ...
by porus
Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:11 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

If you put Adam, Nuh, Ibrahim and Aal-e-Imran (Isa's ancestors) in context of adjacent ayats, 'chosen ones' (mustafa) clearly refers to God's messengers. Especially, they are not among those the angels feared would cause corruption and bloodshed. 003:033-034 God chose Adam and Noah and the House of...
by porus
Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:06 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is Admin = Sunni's mouthpiece + enemy of Bohras?
Replies: 44
Views: 5999

Re: Is Admin = Sunni's mouthpiece + enemy of Bohras?

Some Fatimid/Ismah beliefs being rejected on this Forum: Ismah - rejected Graves - insulted Matam - insulted Hijri Calendar - rejected Nehjul Balagah - rejected Daim ul Islam - rejected Kitab al Himmah - rejected Syedna Qadi Noman - rejected/insulted Syedi Sadiqali Saheb - rejected/insulted ...to n...
by porus
Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:55 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

Sujood is an act of formal worship. It means bending down and putting forehead and tip of nose to the ground. Humans do this for Allah and no one else. Any suggestion that this act was allowed at one time by Allah for anyone other than Him and later abrogated finds no justification in the Quran. If ...
by porus
Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:50 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

Porus, though no related to the topic, can you tell me what God meant in 002:030, "I am setting in the earth a viceroy" 1. Are all of us (each and every one) vicegerents of God ? or 2. Only chosen ones from the progeny of Adam ? refer 003:033-034 or 3. Adam Himself only ? If Quran is not clear on t...
by porus
Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is Admin = Sunni's mouthpiece + enemy of Bohras?
Replies: 44
Views: 5999

Re: Is Admin = Sunni's mouthpiece + enemy of Bohras?

Adam, This forum is a sounding board for anyone who cares to have their opinion published. It just so happens that many participants have had negative experience of their Jamaat and they are venting their feelings, not always with decorum and decency. I venture to say that a large majority of partic...
by porus
Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:40 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

Status of Human; 002:030, "I am setting in the earth a viceroy" Reason of Creating Human: 051:056, "I have not created jinn and human except to worship Me " maybe God told Angles the status of human (i.e. viceroy) in earth but did not tell Angles at that time the reason for creating human (i.e. to ...
by porus
Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:24 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Asghar Ali Engineer sahab passes away
Replies: 192
Views: 37131

Re: Asghar Ali Engineer sahab passes away

For Abdes Aqamaula ( tus ) is our universe, our world starts with him only. For us only Maula & Maula ( tus ) nothing else. " God does not act without Dai's permission" Aqamaula ( tus ) Khuda na Dai che. Je ma Khuda ni Marzi ema Maula ( tus ) ni Marzi & vice versa. Spoken like a true Dai-worshiping...
by porus
Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:39 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

Allah says that he created man and jinn for nothing other than to worship him. But porus says that he created man because he was bored. Allah says that in the Quran. But your interpretation of it is a 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' fallacy. I started with the question how angels knew man would be corr...
by porus
Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:27 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why Bohra's are not allowed to read Quran with translation
Replies: 46
Views: 11334

Re: WHY BOHRA'S ARE NOT ALLOWED TO READ QURAN WITH TRANSLAT

I have already told you that no one stops you from reading translations/tafseer that are available from non-Bohras What you say is true on a personal level i.e. he has the freedom to read it BUT within the 4 walls of his house as no sooner a Kothari agent learns about it then the bohra is screwed. ...
by porus
Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:05 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why Bohra's are not allowed to read Quran with translation
Replies: 46
Views: 11334

Re: WHY BOHRA'S ARE NOT ALLOWED TO READ QURAN WITH TRANSLAT

but wanted to get some Info why they are not concerned in the same manner to translate the Quran and give classe's to the Mumineen each and every where without having any restriction's We are waiting for you to produce the translation and tafseer. Will you do us the honor? I have already told you t...
by porus
Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:54 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: How did angels know man would be corrupt?
Replies: 129
Views: 15621

Re: How did angels know man would be corrupt?

Welcome to the forum, Curious001. If you wish to learn about the Bohra version of Islam, you might get some benefit from this forum, and a lot of bewilderment. Bohras are Shia but differ from the mainstream twelver Shia in that they follow a different set of leaders (Imams) following a medieval schi...
by porus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:57 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

So we can now say: Miyabhai ki tangdi..........
by porus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:07 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

This is a splendid video on the origin of taraweeh. It is as impartial as can be. Umar's innovation is described in detail from the Sunni point of view and it also discusses why the Shia do not pray it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmedHztkro
by porus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:23 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

OK, the brief answer is that Ali did prohibit taraweeh. But people did not listen to him. Unlike Umar, Ali was not the one to compel people to follow his guidance. There is a hadith, I believe a Shia hadith, about this. Similarly, people did not listen to Ali when he warned them against Muawiya's ru...
by porus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:24 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

If you are going to be bored to death by listening to Nakshwani, I guarantee you will even more bored with my reply. Instead of wasting 45 minutes typing here, I suggest your time will be better spent listening to him. Download the video and listen to it over a few days like I did.
by porus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:13 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

Did you watch the Nakshwani video? You may get your answers there. Once you have watched it, let us know what your understanding is. Don't be lazy now, do you hear?
by porus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:37 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

Imamat from Prophet to Ahl e bait is not in Quran That is your opinion. My opinion is that it is in the Quran. So, let us agree to disagree as we will just go round in circles in debating the issue. Regarding folding of hands during salaat, there are differences among the four schools of Sunni fiqh...
by porus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:43 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: New expansion of Khana-e-Kaaba & Masjid-e-Nabawi
Replies: 2
Views: 1040

Re: New expansion of Khana-e-Kaaba & Masjid-e-Nabawi

Ibn Big Ben Casts its Shadow over Mecca >Without a doubt the most sacred site in the history of Islam is the precinct at Makkah around the black stone known as the Kaaba. >Images of the holy site have adorned Islamic manuscripts for centuries, as millions of pilgrims have made the trip to see the ho...
by porus
Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:49 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

No need to go back or anywhere else. You pray the way you want. Let others pray the way they want. End of discussion. Period.
by porus
Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:01 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

Muslim First wrote:What was Wahabi bashing for?
Is liye ke duniya bhar me Islam ko zalil karna or Islam ki tauheen kar ke usko bad-nazaron se dikhana, yeh sab cheezon ki jad in Wahhabi hi hain. Koi aur Musalman nahin.
by porus
Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:18 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

No fitna here. Folding hands is ok, so is taraweeh. Not folding hands is ok, and not praying taraweeh is fine too.
by porus
Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:58 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hikmah of Imam Ali?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Hikmah of Imam Ali?

Did you not read ghulam muhammed's post on authenticity of Bohra history in Bohras and Reform sub-forum? All history is partisan. That is a useful assumption to hold when reading it. There is no need to go and kill a Muslim because he prays differently than you, like Wahhabis want you to do. When Wa...
by porus
Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:17 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramadan Calculation Method ?
Replies: 177
Views: 22053

Re: Ramadan Calculation Method ?

Ramadan should start at new moon and end after 30 fasts. That is according to Quran and Sunnah according to Bohras. Daimul Islam quotes Ali ibn Abi Talib saying that the number of fasts are 30. (Refer to the Book of Fastin and I'tikaf, section entitled 'Breaking the fast'). Traditionally, months hav...