:PS: I never said I dont like Islam and didnt show any indications towards the same.
--- You just have to read your previous posts to see what you have said regarding your belief in Islam..
You are probably new to the message board and i would like to tell you that the questions you've raised ...
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- Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:46 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (saw)
- Replies: 88
- Views: 9903
- Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:45 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Saifee Hospital
- Replies: 89
- Views: 15873
Re: Saifee Hospital
Hey Guys,the likes of Tahir are not islamic, forget about being progressive.He openly admitted he do not follow islam.
so, why discuss with him issues of orthodox/reform with him..
just neglect him.
so, why discuss with him issues of orthodox/reform with him..
just neglect him.
- Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:47 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Stunted Growth
- Replies: 54
- Views: 5686
Re: Stunted Growth
" Did anyone notice that inspite of a strength of one million, no bohri has yet achieved any exceptional feat? "
You are/were a bohri and what have you achieved ??
Bohras have excelled in many fields and if you are not aware then it is your problem.
Achieve/Success only means loads of money ...
You are/were a bohri and what have you achieved ??
Bohras have excelled in many fields and if you are not aware then it is your problem.
Achieve/Success only means loads of money ...
- Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:31 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Imam Hussain's named his sons Aboubackar, Omar...
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2462
Re: Imam Hussain's named his sons Aboubackar, Omar...
Salaams All
"can u quote some verses of quran which preach this and which is interpreted unanimously? ".
Some of the Ayats to this effect are mentioned..There are many of such Ayats in the Quran and there are many teachings/Practice of Prophet and Ahleybait which speaks volumes obout human ...
"can u quote some verses of quran which preach this and which is interpreted unanimously? ".
Some of the Ayats to this effect are mentioned..There are many of such Ayats in the Quran and there are many teachings/Practice of Prophet and Ahleybait which speaks volumes obout human ...
- Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:27 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Imam Hussain's named his sons Aboubackar, Omar...
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2462
Re: Imam Hussain's named his sons Aboubackar, Omar...
"Today we DO NOT any kind of Division.
There should be one religion - Humanity
There should be one country - Earth "
This should be the ultimate goal and to beginwith, the muslim ummah should be united.
The religion of humanity without any bondaries is in actuality the essence of Islam and ...
There should be one religion - Humanity
There should be one country - Earth "
This should be the ultimate goal and to beginwith, the muslim ummah should be united.
The religion of humanity without any bondaries is in actuality the essence of Islam and ...
- Tue May 31, 2005 8:11 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Imam Hussain's named his sons Aboubackar, Omar...
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2462
Re: Imam Hussain's named his sons Aboubackar, Omar...
"We need unity not division. Secretarian violence
will be beneficial to common enemy. Mr. America and Israel".
Br. Sayed, i fully agree with you that by division, we can only help our enemies..
If we go by the differences then there would be no unity even in the same family.
Irrespective ...
will be beneficial to common enemy. Mr. America and Israel".
Br. Sayed, i fully agree with you that by division, we can only help our enemies..
If we go by the differences then there would be no unity even in the same family.
Irrespective ...
- Tue May 31, 2005 6:41 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please ask India's President to stop his visit to Bomb
- Replies: 85
- Views: 15610
Re: Please ask India's President to stop his visit to Bomb
"And I reiterate my point - In practical sense, following islam is not a precondition to being a bohra (not even a kothari). All you need to do is kiss the dai's ass".
I'm not talking of the latest innovation of the kotharis..
Can you show any belief of the bohras which qualifies them to be ...
I'm not talking of the latest innovation of the kotharis..
Can you show any belief of the bohras which qualifies them to be ...
- Sun May 29, 2005 9:23 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please ask India's President to stop his visit to Bomb
- Replies: 85
- Views: 15610
Re: Please ask India's President to stop his visit to Bomb
"By what logic on earth do you think embracing Islam is a precondition to being a reformist?..."
I hope it was clear that we are discussing the issue of REFORMIST BOHRAS and for that being a muslim is a precondition..
We are on a message board of Dawoodi Borhas reformist group, who are no ...
I hope it was clear that we are discussing the issue of REFORMIST BOHRAS and for that being a muslim is a precondition..
We are on a message board of Dawoodi Borhas reformist group, who are no ...
- Sat May 28, 2005 7:11 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please ask India's President to stop his visit to Bomb
- Replies: 85
- Views: 15610
Re: Please ask India's President to stop his visit to Bomb
"Although I dont follow any organised religion but if I were to chose a sect of Islam I would gladly become a wahabi rather than the lowly bohris"
You are one among many on this board who though do not believe in Islam in the first place but call themselves reformists..
what a hypocrisy..Don't ...
You are one among many on this board who though do not believe in Islam in the first place but call themselves reformists..
what a hypocrisy..Don't ...
- Fri May 27, 2005 6:08 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please ask India's President to stop his visit to Bomb
- Replies: 85
- Views: 15610
Re: Please ask India's President to stop his visit to Bomb
salaams all,
Is it necessary that we should protest for everything and anything that kothar does.
If they do not make hospitals, we say against and when they build a hospital, again we protest..why ??
I think we have no right to protest when we ourselves have done nothing..
why can't the ...
Is it necessary that we should protest for everything and anything that kothar does.
If they do not make hospitals, we say against and when they build a hospital, again we protest..why ??
I think we have no right to protest when we ourselves have done nothing..
why can't the ...
- Fri May 27, 2005 5:09 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (saw)
- Replies: 88
- Views: 9903
Re: Teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (saw)
"And there is no need to give stats. these are all very common. the fact is muslims are over-populated and are living in slavery due to fellow muslims only. muslims are in misery and sufferings every where".
You have to get your stats done up properly Mr(Ms)JC
The total muslim population (world ...
You have to get your stats done up properly Mr(Ms)JC
The total muslim population (world ...
- Thu May 26, 2005 2:51 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (saw)
- Replies: 88
- Views: 9903
Re: Teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (saw)
1. Early marriages
--- What according to you will be NOT early marriage ?
2. Marrying 4 wives
--- It is very rare that a muslim today have a second wife.. recently a survey done in india showed that more percentage of hindus have more than one wife than a fellow muslim citizen.
3. Do not ...
--- What according to you will be NOT early marriage ?
2. Marrying 4 wives
--- It is very rare that a muslim today have a second wife.. recently a survey done in india showed that more percentage of hindus have more than one wife than a fellow muslim citizen.
3. Do not ...
- Thu May 19, 2005 7:29 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: I am sick of 40 days of Ayyamut taabudaat
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3080
Re: I am sick of 40 days of Ayyamut taabudaat
Kaka ji,
What is the problem then, in moving out of such mess of affairs, of the jamaat.
Why hang out with jamaat, when you have realized that things are very bad ?
What is the problem then, in moving out of such mess of affairs, of the jamaat.
Why hang out with jamaat, when you have realized that things are very bad ?
- Tue May 03, 2005 6:01 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Reply to Serendipity
- Replies: 47
- Views: 5651
Re: Reply to Serendipity
"You see that is the problem with this Silsila of Imamat and Daism. There is bound to confusion and division"
Division has taken place everywhere since the begining.Can you show any place where such division has not taken place ?
Division has taken place everywhere since the begining.Can you show any place where such division has not taken place ?
- Tue May 03, 2005 9:36 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Reply to Serendipity
- Replies: 47
- Views: 5651
Re: Reply to Serendipity
Most likely she is talking about the Suleimanis living under threat in the Wahabi Saudi Arabia.
- Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:24 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Zakah is a Tax
- Replies: 62
- Views: 5121
Re: Zakah is a Tax
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Islam has set a rule, a precedent and we can improve on it when necessity comes.
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A ...
Islam has set a rule, a precedent and we can improve on it when necessity comes.
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A ...
- Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:10 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Literal Intepretation of the quran
- Replies: 54
- Views: 4325
Re: Literal Intepretation of the quran
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You very rightly said - there are tons of things today which were not there at Prophet's time, say organ donation/transplantation, going to moon .... so what does Islam say of those things. Are they in Quran, if yes, where and who and how will we ...
You very rightly said - there are tons of things today which were not there at Prophet's time, say organ donation/transplantation, going to moon .... so what does Islam say of those things. Are they in Quran, if yes, where and who and how will we ...
- Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:35 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Literal Intepretation of the quran
- Replies: 54
- Views: 4325
Re: Literal Intepretation of the quran
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Now as far as these things are concerned, Islam, fasting, praying, zakat, hajj, marriage, divorce, shirk, quran, parents rights, children's rights, orphan's rights, sadaqa, khairat, saying lies, adultery, fornication, theft, murder, rape or ...
Now as far as these things are concerned, Islam, fasting, praying, zakat, hajj, marriage, divorce, shirk, quran, parents rights, children's rights, orphan's rights, sadaqa, khairat, saying lies, adultery, fornication, theft, murder, rape or ...
- Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:06 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: E-mails to Pope Benedict xvi
- Replies: 2
- Views: 558
Re: E-mails to Pope Benedict xvi
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Anyway, it's good to see democracy working so well within the church. If only more countries would learn from the Vatican and follow its democratic ideal of "one man, one vote ...
Anyway, it's good to see democracy working so well within the church. If only more countries would learn from the Vatican and follow its democratic ideal of "one man, one vote ...
- Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:17 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Imams - Bohras Vs. 12ers (Shias)
- Replies: 72
- Views: 8544
Re: Imams - Bohras Vs. 12ers (Shias)
Br Khan,
Please go through the foll.link to get an understading of many of the misconceptions among shia/sunni.
http://www.ezsoftech.com/akram/shiasunniunity.asp
Please go through the foll.link to get an understading of many of the misconceptions among shia/sunni.
http://www.ezsoftech.com/akram/shiasunniunity.asp
- Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:59 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Imams - Bohras Vs. 12ers (Shias)
- Replies: 72
- Views: 8544
Re: Imams - Bohras Vs. 12ers (Shias)
Dear Khan,
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I have also heard by a shia collegue that their is a surat in their book which is not in the QURAN. can u confirm this? the surat in qs is called SURAT AL-WILAYAT ...
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I have also heard by a shia collegue that their is a surat in their book which is not in the QURAN. can u confirm this? the surat in qs is called SURAT AL-WILAYAT ...
- Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:21 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Imams - Bohras Vs. 12ers (Shias)
- Replies: 72
- Views: 8544
Re: Imams - Bohras Vs. 12ers (Shias)
Salaams Br. Khan,
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Are you a 12 er. I have read about the tempering on the internet and will find you the site.
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Reading somewhere about tempering and you guessed to be right..
Instead ...
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Are you a 12 er. I have read about the tempering on the internet and will find you the site.
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Reading somewhere about tempering and you guessed to be right..
Instead ...
- Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:09 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Imams - Bohras Vs. 12ers (Shias)
- Replies: 72
- Views: 8544
Re: Imams - Bohras Vs. 12ers (Shias)
ASAK
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The Shiah's belive that the Quran has been tampered with and certain Sura's were removed. So why did Hazrat Ali, when he became the Caliph not reinstate them.
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From where did you ...
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The Shiah's belive that the Quran has been tampered with and certain Sura's were removed. So why did Hazrat Ali, when he became the Caliph not reinstate them.
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From where did you ...
- Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:02 pm
- Forum: Here and Now
- Topic: Indiacause or Anti Indian Muslim cause
- Replies: 0
- Views: 690
Indiacause or Anti Indian Muslim cause
Some of the articles presented describes, how to annihilate the total South Asian Muslims (especially Indian).
http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_050228.htm
http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_050413.htm
http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_050320.htm
http://www.indiacause.com ...
http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_050228.htm
http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_050413.htm
http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_050320.htm
http://www.indiacause.com ...
- Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:47 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: UN to monitor defamation of Islam and muslims
- Replies: 0
- Views: 260
- Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:02 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Right ‘circum’ stance
- Replies: 0
- Views: 312
Right ‘circum’ stance
Right ‘circum’ stance
By Dr Ramesh Ramayya
An Australian physician has triggered a debate in medical circles through his claim that men who are circumcised are seven times less likely to contract the dreaded HIV virus. The benefits of circumcision do not end with that. Professor Roger Short ...
By Dr Ramesh Ramayya
An Australian physician has triggered a debate in medical circles through his claim that men who are circumcised are seven times less likely to contract the dreaded HIV virus. The benefits of circumcision do not end with that. Professor Roger Short ...
- Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:32 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Reformist Activities - Defining Success
- Replies: 89
- Views: 9985
Re: Reformist Activities - Defining Success
salaams
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What were the specific reasons, please explain? You mean to say God wanted the prophet to marry his adopted son Zaid's wife Zainab. Marrying adopted son's wife was not permitted under tribal norms of those times. But ...
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What were the specific reasons, please explain? You mean to say God wanted the prophet to marry his adopted son Zaid's wife Zainab. Marrying adopted son's wife was not permitted under tribal norms of those times. But ...
- Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:50 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Reformist Activities - Defining Success
- Replies: 89
- Views: 9985
Re: Reformist Activities - Defining Success
Declaring openly against the Quran, finding faults with the Prophet, denying the existence of an Imam by many reformists on this board and elsewhere and thus denying the basic tenets of being a dawoodi bohra cannot be called a reform moment.
It is sheer hyprocricy to say that the reform is mainly ...
It is sheer hyprocricy to say that the reform is mainly ...
- Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:33 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Reference of Ali in the Quran
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2345
Re: Reference of Ali in the Quran
salaam,
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for Shias Ghadeer-e-Khum is the basis for Ali's Imammat, however the Silsala-e-Imamat is debatable. Ali was Maula, right, but his sons will continue to be Maula's is something not clear ...
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for Shias Ghadeer-e-Khum is the basis for Ali's Imammat, however the Silsala-e-Imamat is debatable. Ali was Maula, right, but his sons will continue to be Maula's is something not clear ...
- Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Reference of Ali in the Quran
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2345
Re: Reference of Ali in the Quran
Salaam,
It is no use dividing the ummah into Sunni, Shias, etc and instead concentrate on the unity of the community as the Prophet(PBUH) never wanted his ummah to divide into sects like sunnis and shias.
Instead, concentrating on how to better oneself by the path shown by the Quran, and as ...
It is no use dividing the ummah into Sunni, Shias, etc and instead concentrate on the unity of the community as the Prophet(PBUH) never wanted his ummah to divide into sects like sunnis and shias.
Instead, concentrating on how to better oneself by the path shown by the Quran, and as ...