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by Thai
Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:55 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith
Replies: 57
Views: 135093

Re: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith

I was checking the dictionary for the meaning of "infallibility" (---exempt from error) and came accross the term as used by the Roman Catholic Church. Apparently the Pope is infallible--that is, all of his statements concerning ritual/Dogma and morality are infallible because these statements are i...
by Thai
Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:42 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Wall Street, what's next?
Replies: 1
Views: 134

Re: Wall Street, what's next?

this guy Frank is obviously an ignorant, paranoid, idiot. :D However, he did raise an interesting point---what is sharia compliant finance and how does it work?---that is, todays markets are geared towards short-term, profit oriented strategies based on absolute greed. How can investing in any bussi...
by Thai
Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith
Replies: 57
Views: 135093

Re: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith

I had not checked the forum for a while... Thankyou for the interesting information. There are many ways to look at, and understand history. :) I was wondering---where did the idea of the infallibility of Prophet Muhammed develop from--anyone...?? Also, there have been recent re-evaluation of the te...
by Thai
Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:42 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Qur'anic Universalism versus Arab Particularism
Replies: 3
Views: 396

Re: Qur'anic Universalism versus Arab Particularism

Interesting article

Some feel that western values/culture were "imposed" through colonization. Could it be that today arab values/culture are being "imposed" through the disguise of religion?
by Thai
Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:33 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith
Replies: 57
Views: 135093

Re: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith

I was under the impression that many of the ideas regarding infallibility, absolute power, etc..etc were formed during Imam al-Hakim"s time resulting in the druze movement which elevated the status of Imam al-hakim to that of the divine.(?)
by Thai
Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:23 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Belief in Divine Books
Replies: 5
Views: 221

Re: Belief in Divine Books

I liked your answer ;)

I think that the quran and bible both say that the our hearts will recognize the truth. I think that all wisdom teachings are from Allah and if we really look into their messages, we will eventually find the same truths.
by Thai
Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:18 pm
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: What is faithful citizenship?
Replies: 10
Views: 698

Re: What is faithful citizenship?

So far, the "west" has built its success and progress by exploiting the "developing" nations and colonialism is a good example. While colonialism as we knew it, has died, its principles of using cheap natural resources to build up their own countries economies and geopolitical interests still contin...
by Thai
Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:23 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith
Replies: 57
Views: 135093

Re: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith

Pre-Ismaili splits --- In case anyone is interested

Imam Hassan's decendents became the royal families of Morrocco and Jordan.

Imam Hussain's decendants split into Ismaili's, Ithna Ashari (twelvers?) and Zaidi sects.

Information is from internet and may be incorrect.
by Thai
Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith
Replies: 57
Views: 135093

Re: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith

Ismaili splits The first occured between the Qaramati and Imam Ubaydallah-al-mahdi. Imam al-hakim(996-1021CE)--the Druze split Around 1094CE, the split between Imam Nizar and Imam al-mustali. Around 1130 the split between Imam Tayyib and al hafiz Around 1591--a split in Bohra community relating to D...
by Thai
Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:42 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith
Replies: 57
Views: 135093

Re: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith

Insaf Thankyou for sharing your knowlege. I do not want to upset anyone ---and I will readily admit that my information may be incorrect, but when I looked into the history from internet sources---I came up with a slightly different version. Imam Jaffer died in 765 CE, his son Imam Ismail predecease...
by Thai
Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:49 pm
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: What is faithful citizenship?
Replies: 10
Views: 698

Re: What is faithful citizenship?

danishwar maybe you are attributing too much nobility to the "west" ---It is my understanding that the west rarely does anything out of idealism---it is almost always for political expediency. the recent wars were about natural resources. (oil in Iraq -- pipeline in Afghanistan) Also, creating wars-...
by Thai
Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:38 pm
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: What is faithful citizenship?
Replies: 10
Views: 698

Re: What is faithful citizenship?

You are right, history is very subjective. The Japanese still "invent" their history to suit their political purpose --- but other countries do so too. Probably---if one were to compare---no history books from different countries are going to tell the same story of the same event. ;) Today there are...
by Thai
Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:36 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: What is faithful citizenship?
Replies: 10
Views: 698

Re: What is faithful citizenship?

It is my understanding that criticism of Judaism or the Holocaust is a crime more or less across Europe. So the argument that religious criticism is allowed or that it is an accepted part of freedom of speech does not stand up. When Price Harry wore the "swastika" symbol by accident---there was an u...
by Thai
Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:27 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: The ashes of American morality
Replies: 2
Views: 189

Re: The ashes of American morality

I think most people outside the U.S. already know the two facedness of the American govt. I recently read an article about how the U.S. "tested" its new military armaments on human targets in Southeast Asia soon after the vietnam war. Innocent farmers, villagers, and civilians were bombed, blasted, ...
by Thai
Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:57 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith
Replies: 57
Views: 135093

Re: Understanding Dawoodi Bohra Faith

Very interesting insights. I am not sure about a couple of points---You mentioned that the arabs are "freedom-loving" But the Abbassid dynasty (from the family of the prophets uncle) would indicate that is not so across the board. Also--"slavish submission" by the Persians--- while this is an intere...
by Thai
Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:46 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?
Replies: 9
Views: 499

Re: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?

Pluto was downgraded from the status of planet to planetoid (when 3 other planetoids were found) So now instead of 8 planets excluding earth, we have 7 planets only. ---Doesn't the quran mention about 7 "firmaments" above the earth? --- has science caught up with the Quran?

what do you think?
by Thai
Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:25 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: 'Ethnic Cleansing By Stealth'
Replies: 1
Views: 242

Re: 'Ethnic Cleansing By Stealth'

Zionist nationalist myth of enforced exile Israel deliberately forgets its history An Israeli historian suggests the diaspora was the consequence, not of the expulsion of the Hebrews from Palestine, but of proselytising across north Africa, southern Europe and the Middle East By Schlomo Sand Every I...
by Thai
Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:21 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Allah likes the rich.
Replies: 8
Views: 283

Re: Allah likes the rich.

feelgud---thankyou again for the verses. What an amazing ability to find relevant verses so quickly!!!
by Thai
Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:14 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Intresting Article...
Replies: 14
Views: 669

Re: Intresting Article...

feelgud---Thankyou for the verses. It is an interesting social phenomenon as to why people tend to gravitate towards authoritarianism? Even in the west, as shown by the Iraq war fiasco --people would rather blindly believe rather than think for themselves. Is aquiring knowledge such a chore? Why do ...
by Thai
Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:12 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?
Replies: 9
Views: 499

Re: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?

Science and Quran I agree that science is a process of finding truth but Quran is the truth. The Quran speaks of 3 aspects of the universe, the big bang, flatness of universe (like a scroll) and the big crunch (the end of this universe cycle). So far, in science, the first two "truths" have been con...
by Thai
Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:51 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Intresting Article...
Replies: 14
Views: 669

Re: Intresting Article...

I am not against all hierarchies or the concept of obedience---A teacher is above a student in knowledge and this creates a hierarchy of sorts. A leader is above his followers in leadership---and followers, as the word implies give obedience to the leader. The Quran gives the example of Parents. We ...
by Thai
Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:53 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?
Replies: 9
Views: 499

Re: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?

What are your views on the subject of the Quran?
by Thai
Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:50 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?
Replies: 9
Views: 499

Re: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?

muslim first Thankyou for the reply. I am always eager to learn and would appreciate any information. I have looked into some of the different translations and tafsir out there on the net. I liked some and disliked others. In the end, I felt that what fits with the Quran and my heart and instincts, ...
by Thai
Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:43 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Allah likes the rich.
Replies: 8
Views: 283

Re: Allah likes the rich.

I don't remember the verse, but the Quran says somewhere that wealth is a trial. That those who have been granted the gift of wealth have the responsibility to use it in the way of Allah. The trial is that of the soul wanting the ease and comfort wealth provides for ourselves or for the benefit of o...
by Thai
Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:32 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Blair Sister-in-law Tastes Gaza Suffering
Replies: 5
Views: 241

Re: Blair Sister-in-law Tastes Gaza Suffering

feelgud Thankyou for the two wonderful links. I have read them but I will have to reread (slowly)them one more time. I agree with a lot of the points (I do have difference of opinion on some minor points though) Natural disasters--- One of the disturbing aspects of natural disasters is that they aff...
by Thai
Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:10 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Blair Sister-in-law Tastes Gaza Suffering
Replies: 5
Views: 241

Re: Blair Sister-in-law Tastes Gaza Suffering

It is indeed a delimma The Asian Tsunami, the Chineese earthquake, the flods etc are act of nature. Wars are acts of man, nevertheless, an all powerful God could stop these at any time---could create world peace in an instant -if that were the plan. Obviously, for reasons we cannot understand, that ...
by Thai
Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:27 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?
Replies: 9
Views: 499

Re: The Quran: Whose Word Is It?

muslim first Thankyou for the useful link In my case, after having read the Quran, and put some of its wisdom into practice, I can say, that for me, it is a revelation. I have no problem if someone else thinks otherwise. Nevertheless, these days, we muslims are asked questions and it is useful to ha...
by Thai
Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:11 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Intresting Article...
Replies: 14
Views: 669

Re: Intresting Article...

the 9th, 10, and 11th centuries were certainly a brilliant time when many inspiring ideas and debates originated. These ideas had a lot of influence in the development of Christian and Jewish Theology. However, these ideas about the relationship between cosmology and theology were also matters of co...
by Thai
Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:50 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Intresting Article...
Replies: 14
Views: 669

Re: Intresting Article...

smart makes some interesting points It is my understanding that Imam al-Hakim ruled during a rather turbulant time both economically and politically and it was necessary that there exist a doctrine to strengthen his "position" in the minds of the people he ruled. Today, some politicians use tactics ...
by Thai
Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:55 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: This is how Qur’an was revealed
Replies: 7
Views: 388

Re: This is how Qur’an was revealed

feelgud

I was unaware of jain's poems---thanks for the mention