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by Thai
Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:18 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Can we have certain rules for posting here?
Replies: 31
Views: 2525

Re: Can we have certain rules for posting here?

I am assuming we are all responsible adults here. In which case, Do we really need to be monitored like schoolchildren? Can we not act responsibly the way Allah intended us to act? Why not be our own self monitors? If we find some posts disturbing---do not answer to it. If we are upset or need to ve...
by Thai
Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: This is how Qur’an was revealed
Replies: 7
Views: 388

Re: This is how Qur’an was revealed

feelgud Thankyou for the effort you have taken to put together so many verses of the Quran. It is good to reflect and meditate on the verses of the Quran during ramazaan. This is another one from Sells (---not an accurate translation) Surah 91 ---The Sun In the name of God, the compassionate and the...
by Thai
Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:31 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: This is how Qur’an was revealed
Replies: 7
Views: 388

Re: This is how Qur’an was revealed

thankyou both for the informative posts. It is my understanding that during the years of revelation, there was once a gap of a couple (?) of years and apparently Prophet Muhammed began to worry that he had not fulfilled the duty Allah had asked of him (according to Karen Armstrong's book "Muhammed")...
by Thai
Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:29 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions
Replies: 48
Views: 1896

Re: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions

In Israel, A Clash Over Who Is a Jew Ultra-Orthodox Contest Conversions By Griff Witte Washington Post Foreign Service Saturday, August 30, 2008; ASHDOD, Israel -- Yael converted to Judaism in 1992, and for the next 15 years she lived in Israel, celebrating the major holidays and teaching her childr...
by Thai
Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:20 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: A chilling Fatwa
Replies: 38
Views: 1296

Re: A chilling Fatwa

spiked kool-aid? :D :D :D Nah---can't be.... There has been some debate about "western feminism" vs "Islamic feminism" While I don't quite know what "Islamic feminism" actually means, the argument was that in the west, in their quest for "equality" with men, they ended up putting a ton of expectatio...
by Thai
Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:40 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions
Replies: 48
Views: 1896

Re: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions

Lao Tzu --a chineese sage said Since before time and space were, Tao is. It is beyond "is" and "is not" How do I know this is true? I look inside myself and see. Maybe being "muslim" is a matter of heart? Somewhere, the Quran says that the planets and the stars bow to Allah's will---So one could say...
by Thai
Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:29 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Yup..He can force you....
Replies: 5
Views: 210

Re: Yup..He can force you....

what happened to the surah---"there is no compulsion in religion"? No one can force another in the name of Islam!!! isn't that UNISLAMIC?
by Thai
Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:19 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions
Replies: 48
Views: 1896

Re: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions

Originally posted by porus: How about being compassionate, merciful, just, kindliness, tahseen, jihad (as in continual effort at improvement), looking after family, elderly parents, orphans etc. Ramzaan is an good time to start practicing many of the qualities/values mentioned above. By doing good d...
by Thai
Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:03 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions
Replies: 48
Views: 1896

Re: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions

Surah 3, verse 67-68 Abraham was not a jew nor yet a christian, but he was upright, and he bowed his will to Allah's, (which is Islam) and he joined not Gods with Allah. Without doubt, among men, The nearest of Kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this prophet and those who believe:...
by Thai
Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:04 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Moon Sighting
Replies: 3
Views: 362

Re: Moon Sighting

about time we entered the 21st century!!!
by Thai
Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:53 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: A chilling Fatwa
Replies: 38
Views: 1296

Re: A chilling Fatwa

Muslim First I agree that my understanding of hadith (and the science behind it) can be termed pathetic. However, even the "authentic hadith" are "man-made" in that, they are the sayings of a man---Prophet Muhammed. ---the Quran on the other hand, though recited by man (Prophet Muhammed), are the gu...
by Thai
Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:25 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions
Replies: 48
Views: 1896

Re: Challenge to MF - Beliefs & Opinions

Universal Truth = Right Intention, leading to Right action that promotes the betterment of God's creations or Golden Rule of Confucious What one does not wish for oneself, one aught not to do to anyone else, what one recognizes as desirable for oneself, one aught to be willing to grant to others. or...
by Thai
Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:17 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramzaan Mubarak
Replies: 13
Views: 759

Re: Ramzaan Mubarak

Thankyou Aareef---the same to you too
by Thai
Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:25 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: A chilling Fatwa
Replies: 38
Views: 1296

Re: A chilling Fatwa

Hadiths There are many gems of wisdom in the hadiths. But I have also found many that are disturbing. In any event, hadiths are "man-made". It is interesting how the human mind can find ways to corrupt "revelation" The Jews lost the Torah given to Prophet Moses and "came up" (found) one at a later t...
by Thai
Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:10 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: A chilling Fatwa
Replies: 38
Views: 1296

Re: A chilling Fatwa

Salim Thankyou for your kind words. Islam, the feminist movement of its time---I agree with that. I can also say, that it is a feminist movement of tomorrow, as many inequlities today could be rectified if the feminist concepts of the Quran are actually put into practice in society. However, I would...
by Thai
Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:10 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Wow!! they really churn them out, dont they?
Replies: 22
Views: 514

Re: Wow!! they really churn them out, dont they?

If parents are more concerned with cultural norms such as girls and boys not talking with each other or teachers of a different sex not teaching students directly...etc they are giving importance to the wrong set of values. Education should be about "acquiring knowledge" not about practicing cultura...
by Thai
Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:01 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Wow!! they really churn them out, dont they?
Replies: 22
Views: 514

Re: Wow!! they really churn them out, dont they?

It is about time muslims understood that "good education" is not about religion--it is about the quality of knowledge a teacher can give to the students. Sending your child to an "islamic school" is not what is going to make them "better"---it is the quality of education that matters. This is so, wh...
by Thai
Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:37 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Martin Luther inspired Adolf Hitler
Replies: 7
Views: 401

Re: Martin Luther inspired Adolf Hitler

I think there is a surah that asks prophet Muhammed to treat the poor man who comes to ask questions with the same respect and courtesy he would give an important man who asks for his time. To give respect and courtesy to someone else (regardless of position or religion) is Islamic--to demand it as ...
by Thai
Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:28 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: A chilling Fatwa
Replies: 38
Views: 1296

Re: A chilling Fatwa

childcare responsibilities. I could be wrong about this---but I was surprised at how "ultra-modern" the Quran was when discussing the division of childcare responsibilities. Today, one generally assumes that women/mother takes care of the kids.The Quran does not---educating the children is the respo...
by Thai
Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:09 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: A chilling Fatwa
Replies: 38
Views: 1296

Re: A chilling Fatwa

"girls that your right hand possess" I think this refers to slave girls/women. Surah 4, verse 25 talks of marriage (with proper dowry and contract)---so that the slave woman becomes "free". Since it is important in the Quran to set the slaves free---this would be on way to encourage it. The freeing ...
by Thai
Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:53 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: A chilling Fatwa
Replies: 38
Views: 1296

Re: A chilling Fatwa

interesting discussion porus--thanks for the link to free-minds My understanding of arabic is mostly non-existent so my "interpretation" may not be correct..... Quwwam/Quwammum---The Quran says (elsewhere) that Allah has created us humans (men and women) and knows our nature intimately.We are respon...
by Thai
Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:39 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Burial Places of Imams
Replies: 67
Views: 5738

Re: Burial Places of Imams

all claims valid---or no claims valid

Isn't the end result the same either way? That is, if we approach with the attitude that all are right or none are right, we take out the elements of superiority, ego, division and are able to view others with less bias and with more equality?
by Thai
Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:29 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Punnishment fit the crime
Replies: 44
Views: 1447

Re: Punnishment fit the crime

There are many theories about 9/11, but one of the things that resulted was that Islam and muslims were put under scrutiny. This has led to a lot of "rethink" about Islam by muslims themselves. Certainly, it made ME take a 2nd look at the Islam I was practicing. There is an interesting verse in the ...
by Thai
Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:06 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Punnishment fit the crime
Replies: 44
Views: 1447

Re: Punnishment fit the crime

In case anyone is interested, regarding my post about two heavens---it is mentioned in Surah 56. verse 7 mentions that people will be divided into 3 classes---those going to hell, those going to heaven and those who are righteous and will be close to Allah.
by Thai
Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:59 pm
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Why we do not call ourselves Muslims
Replies: 63
Views: 2626

Re: Why we do not call ourselves Muslims

sorry, I may have made a mistake, by "desciples", I meant the apostles---or whatever they call them---the Quran calls them "helpers". The people (men and women) who went around with Prophet Jesus. (I did not mean to refer to trinitarian christians) It is also my understanding that the "trinitarian" ...
by Thai
Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:45 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: FEAR
Replies: 14
Views: 511

Re: FEAR

Fear Fear is a tactic used by inept politicians/leaders to unite people to a common (non-existent)enemy. American presidents have been using this tactic for a while. The combination of politics and religion can be a volatile mix. ---christianity is a good example. First, their enemies were other chr...
by Thai
Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:46 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: FEAR
Replies: 14
Views: 511

Re: FEAR

Heaven/hell In the grand scheme of things --does proof of existence or non-existence of heaven/hell really matter? One thing that is certain is that the life we live is short and transient. we are born, we live, we die---and that is that. The most important part is what we do with the short time we ...
by Thai
Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:41 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: FEAR
Replies: 14
Views: 511

Re: FEAR

submission If we have faith in Allah--then would it not mean that we submit not to what we "think" is religion, but to what Allah says is the "straight path" So that would mean that all those who truly have faith must go through a period of discarding "man-made" ideas of Allah and religion and find ...
by Thai
Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:36 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: FEAR
Replies: 14
Views: 511

Re: FEAR

Is fear the opposite of faith?

If we have faith--the belief that Allah will guide us and take care of us, ---mean that fear has no place in our hearts? so--if we fear---we do not have faith in Allah?
by Thai
Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:11 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Martin Luther inspired Adolf Hitler
Replies: 7
Views: 401

Re: Martin Luther inspired Adolf Hitler

the 11th century sufi philosopher Al-Gazzali, came up with a theory called "Satanic Logic" He said that Iblis refused to bow down to Adam because of a false value-based assumption that "fire" was better than clay and as he was made from fire and Adam from clay, he was better than Adam. Anytime, we h...