Dawoodi Bohra Forum

The Dawat is not dealing in nickles & dimes, they deal in Millions of $$$$, the ameen (of dawat or the person in charge of collecting money from all jamaat in a country) sits on a pile of money and has help from Wall Street lawyers and tax preparers. They know all the loop holes better than you ...

Prophets and other religious sages introduce certain outwardly visible things to identify our people VS other people. At one time may be the beard was needed, however Rasulullah SA introducing beard to identify muslims from jews makes no sense because jews had longer beards than muslims in those day...

OMG!!!! Husafar, what is wrong with you that you expect them to do such a thing as dodging taxes. NOoOO, they invest in Real Estate everywhere in the world in all big cities they have properties worth millions and Billions incl. Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkatta, London, NY, Houston, Los Angeles, Paris, swi...

The title of this thread indicates as if we the power to tame the Kothar!!!!???? The best we can do is to keep doing what we are doing, which is making people making aware of what is going on, one soul at a time and providing the freedom even to people like Progticide to come here and fart. In our e...

AZ wrote: "so it is najis and haram to eat food touched by hindus, but ok to employ them as accountants in our jamaats? what about the highly paid financial advisors working behind the scenes for the kothar, the PR and media experts? what about the hundreds of properties owned by syedna and his...

All Farmans have high sounding taweel words to confuse the hoi polloi (s) and really obfucate the issue at hand.
"How strangely will the tools of a tyrant pervert the plain meaning of words." - Samuel Adams

Another few examples of "how low can they go"!!!!! Asking wajebat from minor children of the madrassa knowing they are minors, knowing they don't earn anything and knowing it is not wajib on them. Asking minor kids to submit fakhir raqm salaams for the Dai, Mansoos and the Imam on all idds...

"Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

Bro AZ: Sorry for not being clear in my previous post. I even remember wearing black sherwani and black topi in the days of Moharrum untill I was in late teens or early twenties. And here I am not promoting or supporting the Kothar imposed clothing standards or them making dadhi a faraz while it is ...

The simple answer to your question is ," you can not ". and thats it. The juggernaut that you are talking about is an Octopus, an arm being power of money, and others being power of influence, power of misaq, power of their PR machinery, and of course power of their knowledge et.el. You ca...

Amerul Mumeneen Moulana Ali said to Moulana Kumail , Kumayl says that after this brief dissertation, Amerul Mumeneen Moulana Ali (SA) pointed towards his chest and said, "Look Kumayl! Here I hold stores and treasures of knowledge. I wish I could find somebody to share it with me. Yes, I found a...

people get through your head that Dai is central and imam appointed Dai is central to the Dawoodi Bohra faith. If you don't believe this or if you want to do away with Dai or you want to elect a Dai you don't belong on this Forum and need to find and join a different religion. Having said that, what...

Bros: GM. Humsafar, aNajmim Sajjad: All this discussion about electing or not electing the Dai is useless and meaningless because in the basic tenets of our religion it is the Imam who appoints them. The simple thing that needs to be done is go back to the Misaq prior to the 51 dai. Current Misaq is...

Humsafar: You are forgetting the 7 Daem, and the first one is valayat, which means mohabbat of Allah, Panjatan, Aimmat and Doat, even in quran Allah says somewhere ( acrude translation)," Mohammed don't ask any wage from people except ask for the love of people for you and your relatives" ...

Sorry if you got the impression that I am calling myself mukhlis or abde DB or was condescending towards this forum in anyway, as I have been coming here for several years now, so that makes me not a mukhlis. but what I meant was that there is a history of bad blood between youth group (as progressi...

What we need is a website/ Forum run by the Dawoodi bohras who are very much in the jamaat, e-jamaat card holder, sabeel & wajibaat paying and have contacts in the inner circles of Saifee Mahal and also have in-roads with people of Jamia who would run this forum for the momineen only but run it ...

OMG !!!! I am shocked to read the Rangwala account of the 350 bohras in Jail and the bigger shock is that no one out side of Karachi knows about it. It is amazing how much control the kothar has on the community. None of abde sites mention anything about it. So sad, they don't serve the community. W...

YES, they are real brothers. Normally only one needs to do sadarat, but he is there to collect salaam money to support two wives.

Sorry Bro, the rida was not invented in India, this dubious honor goes to Nairobi, Africa. I had read this little gem in a book by the title of "out of Africa" written by a lady by the name of Rashida Ghadiyali (I am not sure of the first name now), the book gives in detail how the dawoodi...

Tanwir23 wrote "As for my father, he is such a part of the inner circle that he and others are allowed what no ordinary bohris are. He just donated Rs.25 lakhs to a zaada and got the permission to get his son enrolled in a boarding school (surprise surprise that too run by a christian missionar...

You and me the Hoi Polloi(s) do. More correctly our women do, I know when my wife when she was alive, she was so devoted to these zadas let alone Aqa Maola that I used to wonder why is she worshiping them? their shit stinks like ours, they put their trousers one leg at a time like we all do, what ma...

What a cacaphony story!!! You must be a dreamer. You think your qasr e aali parents will put you in a boarding school and forget all about you and also let you go to pray in sunni mosque, yeah, yeah, yeah, tell us more stories. I don't think you are anywhere close to qasr e aali, you are just saying...

The reason all these Amils are out of control is that now they are Dais. May be even dai mutlaq. Because we are told that the original dai mutlaq is sitting in the office of imam e zaman. So his own office is empty and all these amils have made themselves comfortable in dai's office. Also all the am...

We all know that the indian and Pakistani Dawoodi bohras are converts from The Hindu religion, and we brought many rituals with us into the our adopted religion, i.e wadhawanu, folding hands in Namaste fashion which Yemeni bohras never practiced until 10 years ago but now they are used to it as well...

Wajihuddin is the name of the person given at birth OR it is the laqab given to him or his dad or grandpa longtime ago and goes down as their inheritance in all male members of the family. Al Had means he is in Hadiyat which means he is a shaikh Anjab is derived from Najeeb Asad is derived from Saee...

Why Pay Sabil: I don't know about any qurani injunction but I think there is a hadees of Rasulullah (SA) that any muslim who comes to Mecca for Haj shall visit my grave. visiting a grave is considered equivalent to Half Mulaqaat. I don't know about my own dead relatives but they say that awliya who ...

MMBukhari: What is there to be shocked about that. For 11 years they are fed by the ilah ul ard, then when they get out from Jamea their lively hood depends on pushing the party line, if they don't promote the things that their brains have been fed with or whatever garbage is hammered into their hea...

Docotr Saheb: The definition of zazira is a body of land surrounded by water all around, Hind, Sindh and Yemen are not zaziras because the have water on only 3 sides and at best can called peninsulas. What proof do you have that Imam said you can not go for Haj after you become Dai??? why would Imam...

Doctor Saheb: My guess is that Adam is paid low-life lackey, jamea educated stuffed shirt (or kurta) who after 11 years of jamea thinks that he has the same knowledge as Dai & Imam (Nauzobillah). Knowing Arabic is not equal to having knowledge (by 4th grade in Jamea they have to answer their pap...

Please don't forget the fact that Imam Moiz was not only Imam for us but he was also the ruler /king of a vast empire and as the king he had to live like a king and maintain the pomp and circumstance of his position. whereas, the dai and his family are not the king or rulers of any empire but love t...