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by Humsafar
Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: Imam, Imamat and Bohras

Humsafar and Biradar Please enlighten me about how does the living Imam Agha Khan fits in this . I understand both of you are discussing about Bohra's belief in Imam and Agha Khan is separate topic but to get a better understanding, one should also have an idea how and where even the Imamat got spl...
by Humsafar
Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:04 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: How is this forum significant?

How did muslims of Arabia know Rasulullah SAW was truthful and the "rightful one"? Because they pondered, went through the same dilemmas people are faced today. Indeed. Wrong question. There were not two contenders for prophethood, there was no dilemma, there was no question of choice. Yes, people ...
by Humsafar
Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:42 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: How is this forum significant?

Perhaps you are right. However, in the same vein, neither has the concept of Allah, Quran, Prophet et al served us well. These all have failed to ameliorate the troubles which beset this world. But let me say again what I said before: during the time of the Imam's seclusion, the da'i is the divinel...
by Humsafar
Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:28 pm
Forum: Forum issues and feedback
Topic: Why do so few people post here?
Replies: 4
Views: 1156

Re: Why do so few people post here?

You must ask those who don't.
by Humsafar
Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: How is this forum significant?

Friend Humsafar: The central character in the faith is not missing in action. He is present, but in seclusion . The da'i al-mutlaq operates with the same authority as the Imam (while he is in seclusion). So, he is the divinely appointed guide during this time. The fundamental defining aspect of Boh...
by Humsafar
Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: How is this forum significant?

Birader, You have addressed everything but the elephant in the room. It is not an elephant, actually. During the time of satar, i.e. when the Imam is in seclusion, one must follow the da'i. That is it. Allah has given you intellect. You must use that to choose between right and wrong. Imam can't ha...
by Humsafar
Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:05 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: How is this forum significant?

Humsafar, If Imam is a problem to you what about God? He is hidden and the faithful believe all sorts of things about Him. What about angels? Nobody has seen them but belief in them is mandatory for a Muslim. Just as you let belief in God and angels be I suggest you let belief in hidden Imam be. It...
by Humsafar
Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:40 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: How is this forum significant?

Humsafar: Yes, you have raised many interesting points and I would agree with a lot of what you say. In essence, I agree that there is a difference between what is possible in principal (egalitarian ideas in Quran) v/s what actually happens in practice (ISIS). This struggle continues and will conti...
by Humsafar
Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:28 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: How is this forum significant?

im sensing some contradiction here. on one hand, further down the post, you question these Fatimid beliefs, but here you are ready to, in your own words, "wallow in its glories till the end of time".. slight amount of confusion. Would you clarify what you mean here? I'm not questioning anything. Wh...
by Humsafar
Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:52 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Imam, Imamat and Bohras
Replies: 145
Views: 8832

Re: How is this forum significant?

Birader, I confess I know little of Fatimid literature and philosophy, but I'll not hesitate to join you and wallow in its glories till the end of time, when Qaim al Qiam will come, as promised by the said literature, and set this world right. Until such time what are we supposed to do? The Old Test...
by Humsafar
Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:55 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 459056

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

anjami, The point of humanbeing is, if I may, that Makkah and the cause of Islam is no better served under the Wahabbi Saudi royalty. To your point, are they better than Mufaddalis if they had been the custodians? A grudging yes. Are the Saudis generally better than Mufadallis? Maybe so. But that's ...
by Humsafar
Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Critical Thinker is a problem like natkhat pari was
Replies: 62
Views: 6300

Re: Critical Thinker is a problem like natkhat pari was

Critical Thinker, Let me just remind you that my post was supposed to be conciliatory. We did have a rough start, I admit. But that is so much water under the bridge. Your are a reformist from Udaipur, I'm a reformist from Udaipur. We are on the same side. We are allies. Our cause and our fight is t...
by Humsafar
Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:25 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The truth about the udaipuri progressives
Replies: 46
Views: 5468

Re: The truth about the udaipuri progressives

correct me if im wrong, but havent you also personally, doubted the existence of the imam? Yes, I have. But my personal opinion is not at issue here. I speak in and on behalf of the reformist cause, but in my personal capacity and not as their representative. sorry, but in all the abuses and deroga...
by Humsafar
Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Critical Thinker is a problem like natkhat pari was
Replies: 62
Views: 6300

Re: Critical Thinker is a problem like natkhat pari was

Critical_Thinker, I'm glad you have changed your tack. Look at your initial posts, you came out swinging again this website, this forum and everything that they stand for. You did denounce it as insignificant and pointless, and from the contempt you showed it, it seemed as it's very existence was an...
by Humsafar
Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The truth about the udaipuri progressives
Replies: 46
Views: 5468

Re: The truth about the udaipuri progressives

It is really heartening to see people speaking up for Udaipur reformists. All these years I've been the lone voice - or almost the lone voice - speaking in and on behalf of them, their struggles and their achievements. It's good to hear other voices, it's music to my ears :) . It is unfortunate that...
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:50 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11845

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

Critical Thinker, Good for you. Please continue to "live your life" and leave this forum to its insignificance. Telling me to leave the forum is admission of defeat, which is what I fully expected. I said leave this forum to its insignificance . Now read it again, carefully and slowly. Does it mean...
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:52 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.
Replies: 76
Views: 12276

Re: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.

Al Zulfiqar, Humsafar A Wahhabi, in my view, is a rabid anti-Shia, accusing the Shia of Shirk and idol-worship and calling them Kafirs abusively. He ridicules 'intercession' and some very specific Shia doctrines. Both of you have agreed with anajmi in this accusation against orthodox Bohras (abdes)...
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:32 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11845

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

Critical Thinker,
Good for you. Please continue to "live your life" and leave this forum to its insignificance.
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11845

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

maethist wrote: So sister, continue your quest here.
Quest? She was here more like an arsonist who lit fires everywhere and ran away when she couldn't handle the heat. She stands exposed. I thought you were too smart not to see through her ruse. Or were you seduced by her flattery? Oh well.
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:18 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.
Replies: 76
Views: 12276

Re: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.

But while we complement the site for its outstanding service to reform, including the level headed Admin, this site is wiki leaks and the Snowden of Bohra...stay guard..they will find ways to not only discredit this site but actively take it down .... Obviously, some kind of campaign is afoot to di...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:00 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.
Replies: 76
Views: 12276

Re: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.

Daleel thi na koi hawala tha unke paas
Ajeeb log the bas ikhtilaaf rakhte the
by Humsafar
Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:45 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11845

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

Critical_Thinker, Wow woman you have been carrying a lot of baggage all these years and have finally decided to dump it here - against this site. Surely you could not have found a more tolerant and receptive whipping boy. It is obvious that you are in some way disillusioned with reformists and extre...
by Humsafar
Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11845

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

We can all see that the progressives havent even put a scratch on the kothar, so the results are non-existent. For years I've been battling this notion, this mindset, which burdens the reformists with the onus of chaning the Kothar. The refrain goes: Reformists should do this, reformists should do ...
by Humsafar
Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:56 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11845

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

Some reformists did try to intervene in the court case. They prepared a statement and hired a lawyer, but after much consultation the lawyer advised that they have no locus standi in this case. The refromists' angle was, I believe, to state that Nass is a dicey business and there have been disputes ...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 16339

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Thank you Biradar for clarifying your position, for a moment I thought you had sold your soul to the devil, :-) just kidding. I think either you have misconstrued my comments or I failed to express myself clearly. I in no way support the "determined anti-Shia and anti-Bohras to subvert all discussio...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:27 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 16339

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Good to see you Biradar after a long hiatus. The survey was such a useless piece of junk, don't know why anybody even bothered to take it seriously. About Bohras being happy, you're right. They are enjoying their lives. Markaz, jaman, darees and what not. Members of other social clubs also enjoy the...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:26 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 16339

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

I am truly stunned at the arc of the debate on this thread - what started out as S. Insaaf post, and the course it has taken. Mathiest has done his job very well, and he is out of here now, mission accomplished. Agreed, the troll matheist has derailed the thread, and I'm partly guilty of it, too. A...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 16339

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Don't be timid. I am not going to search this forum. I am out of here. Spell it out or do you lack courage of your conviction? Is Walayat a pillar of your Bohra faith or not? And what do you understand by the term. Do not be frightened of anajmi. Good bye. I don't have to prove anything to the like...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 16339

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

maethist wrote: I am out of here.
Well, well, didn't know it would be so easy to have you put your tail between your legs...
Go well my friend.
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:04 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 16339

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

You do not like the word Kafir that you labeled Sayedna followers with? That will disappoint your friend, the Greatest authority on Islam, Quran and Bohras, al-aleem, al-rasheed anajmi. Then please put my mind to rest. Do you agree with him that Walayat is not a pillar of your faith as a Bohra. If ...