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by Humsafar
Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Critical Thinker is a problem like natkhat pari was
Replies: 62
Views: 5991

Re: Critical Thinker is a problem like natkhat pari was

Critical Thinker, Let me just remind you that my post was supposed to be conciliatory. We did have a rough start, I admit. But that is so much water under the bridge. Your are a reformist from Udaipur, I'm a reformist from Udaipur. We are on the same side. We are allies. Our cause and our fight is t...
by Humsafar
Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:25 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The truth about the udaipuri progressives
Replies: 46
Views: 5244

Re: The truth about the udaipuri progressives

correct me if im wrong, but havent you also personally, doubted the existence of the imam? Yes, I have. But my personal opinion is not at issue here. I speak in and on behalf of the reformist cause, but in my personal capacity and not as their representative. sorry, but in all the abuses and deroga...
by Humsafar
Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Critical Thinker is a problem like natkhat pari was
Replies: 62
Views: 5991

Re: Critical Thinker is a problem like natkhat pari was

Critical_Thinker, I'm glad you have changed your tack. Look at your initial posts, you came out swinging again this website, this forum and everything that they stand for. You did denounce it as insignificant and pointless, and from the contempt you showed it, it seemed as it's very existence was an...
by Humsafar
Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The truth about the udaipuri progressives
Replies: 46
Views: 5244

Re: The truth about the udaipuri progressives

It is really heartening to see people speaking up for Udaipur reformists. All these years I've been the lone voice - or almost the lone voice - speaking in and on behalf of them, their struggles and their achievements. It's good to hear other voices, it's music to my ears :) . It is unfortunate that...
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:50 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11299

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

Critical Thinker, Good for you. Please continue to "live your life" and leave this forum to its insignificance. Telling me to leave the forum is admission of defeat, which is what I fully expected. I said leave this forum to its insignificance . Now read it again, carefully and slowly. Does it mean...
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:52 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.
Replies: 76
Views: 11982

Re: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.

Al Zulfiqar, Humsafar A Wahhabi, in my view, is a rabid anti-Shia, accusing the Shia of Shirk and idol-worship and calling them Kafirs abusively. He ridicules 'intercession' and some very specific Shia doctrines. Both of you have agreed with anajmi in this accusation against orthodox Bohras (abdes)...
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:32 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11299

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

Critical Thinker,
Good for you. Please continue to "live your life" and leave this forum to its insignificance.
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11299

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

maethist wrote: So sister, continue your quest here.
Quest? She was here more like an arsonist who lit fires everywhere and ran away when she couldn't handle the heat. She stands exposed. I thought you were too smart not to see through her ruse. Or were you seduced by her flattery? Oh well.
by Humsafar
Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:18 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.
Replies: 76
Views: 11982

Re: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.

But while we complement the site for its outstanding service to reform, including the level headed Admin, this site is wiki leaks and the Snowden of Bohra...stay guard..they will find ways to not only discredit this site but actively take it down .... Obviously, some kind of campaign is afoot to di...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:00 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.
Replies: 76
Views: 11982

Re: Few Frank Questions To The "Anti-Mufaddal" Bohras.

Daleel thi na koi hawala tha unke paas
Ajeeb log the bas ikhtilaaf rakhte the
by Humsafar
Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:45 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11299

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

Critical_Thinker, Wow woman you have been carrying a lot of baggage all these years and have finally decided to dump it here - against this site. Surely you could not have found a more tolerant and receptive whipping boy. It is obvious that you are in some way disillusioned with reformists and extre...
by Humsafar
Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11299

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

We can all see that the progressives havent even put a scratch on the kothar, so the results are non-existent. For years I've been battling this notion, this mindset, which burdens the reformists with the onus of chaning the Kothar. The refrain goes: Reformists should do this, reformists should do ...
by Humsafar
Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:56 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!
Replies: 109
Views: 11299

Re: reformist have missed the golden opportunity!

Some reformists did try to intervene in the court case. They prepared a statement and hired a lawyer, but after much consultation the lawyer advised that they have no locus standi in this case. The refromists' angle was, I believe, to state that Nass is a dicey business and there have been disputes ...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Thank you Biradar for clarifying your position, for a moment I thought you had sold your soul to the devil, :-) just kidding. I think either you have misconstrued my comments or I failed to express myself clearly. I in no way support the "determined anti-Shia and anti-Bohras to subvert all discussio...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:27 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Good to see you Biradar after a long hiatus. The survey was such a useless piece of junk, don't know why anybody even bothered to take it seriously. About Bohras being happy, you're right. They are enjoying their lives. Markaz, jaman, darees and what not. Members of other social clubs also enjoy the...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:26 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

I am truly stunned at the arc of the debate on this thread - what started out as S. Insaaf post, and the course it has taken. Mathiest has done his job very well, and he is out of here now, mission accomplished. Agreed, the troll matheist has derailed the thread, and I'm partly guilty of it, too. A...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Don't be timid. I am not going to search this forum. I am out of here. Spell it out or do you lack courage of your conviction? Is Walayat a pillar of your Bohra faith or not? And what do you understand by the term. Do not be frightened of anajmi. Good bye. I don't have to prove anything to the like...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

maethist wrote: I am out of here.
Well, well, didn't know it would be so easy to have you put your tail between your legs...
Go well my friend.
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:04 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

You do not like the word Kafir that you labeled Sayedna followers with? That will disappoint your friend, the Greatest authority on Islam, Quran and Bohras, al-aleem, al-rasheed anajmi. Then please put my mind to rest. Do you agree with him that Walayat is not a pillar of your faith as a Bohra. If ...
by Humsafar
Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:17 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Looks like the word "kaafir" is stuck in matheist's craw, and he is going bonkers with it. I engaged him in a discussion thinking we can have a sensible exchange. Turns out, he is just another Kothari shill. What a disappointment.
by Humsafar
Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Humsafar, I like your response and, if the majority of participants here agree with you and anajmi here then this site is no different from many Wahabi sites whose focus is to attack all Shia, and not just Bohras and term them kafirs. Mr. atheist, you are daft and devious at the same time. In what ...
by Humsafar
Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:02 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

Humsafar, This is addresses specifically to you.... Since you are not against Bohra beliefs, what is your response to anajmi's charge that Bohras are kafirs? I'm glad you raised that question. Please see the context in which the charge of kufr was made. Haqniwat claimed, The Dawoodi Bohra faith rev...
by Humsafar
Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:07 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
Replies: 130
Views: 15426

Re: In defence of the Silent Majority

I have been reviewing the reception that participants of this forum have afforded Adam, a person knowledgeable about Bohra religion. He was hounded out not only by non-Bohra wahabis like anajmi but also, more importantly, by self-hating Bohras who do not much care about recent Dais nor what their p...
by Humsafar
Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:37 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is reform truly possible? Part II
Replies: 72
Views: 13466

Re: Is reform truly possible? Part II

yusuftopiwala just left a fantastic post on this thread, it should be placed on the homepage of this website and every reformist should be forced to read it 1000 times. I don't recall ever reading such a respectful, short, yet comprehensive refutation of the entire reformist enterprise. In particul...
by Humsafar
Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:48 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is reform truly possible? Part II
Replies: 72
Views: 13466

Re: Is reform truly possible? Part II

Kansas, Nothing much has changed since we discussed this topic six months ago. You've nothing new to say. In my opinion, this question remains by far the singular most important issue facing Dawoodi Bohras today. No, it is not. The succession of the Dai and the near certain split of the community is...
by Humsafar
Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:47 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: NASS CONFERRED
Replies: 323
Views: 69719

Re: NASS CONFERRED

No sir, you cannot deny this without explanation. We want to see how you stretch the concept of walayat to "love of Dai". And please quote Bohra source books and Bohra traidition. "Bohra belief" is not what you say it is. It has history, tradition and rooted in Bohra literature. And since you are ma...
by Humsafar
Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:25 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: NASS CONFERRED
Replies: 323
Views: 69719

Re: NASS CONFERRED

ok so according to you namaaz and rosa and good deeds won't help you go to heaven but the dai will? and can you show me proof from the quran or hadiths to back up your claim I personally don't believe that by not believing in a. dai I will go to hell, I will just pray namaaz and follow the pillars ...
by Humsafar
Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:29 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 445974

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

Here's email I received from Fatemidawat inviting me:
Salaams,
Qadambosi and Araz bethaks will resume on Saturday on 6th Shawwal (2nd August) at 5pm at Darus Sakina, Thane.
Qadambosi and Araz? More of the same. MKQ or MSM, different letters same shtick. Where is the real alternative?
by Humsafar
Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:21 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: EID UL FITR MUBARAK
Replies: 32
Views: 7391

Re: EID UL FITR MUBARAK

Eid Mubarak everyone. Strive for justice, pray for peace.
by Humsafar
Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is this site for Bohras who doubt their faith?
Replies: 48
Views: 4627

Re: Is this site for Bohras who doubt their faith?

This site is for people who doubt the ability of their Dai to lead them in the way of Allah. This site for people who have lost faith in the Dawat which has become a greedy and ruthless cult. This site is for helpless and desperate Bohras who are tired of being robbed and humiliated. This site is a ...