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- Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:10 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: OPEN LETTER TO PROGRESSIVE DAWOODI BOHRAS
- Replies: 276
- Views: 29433
Re: OPEN LETTER TO PROGRESSIVE DAWOODI BOHRAS
Actually, I completely reject moral relativism. Yes, the majority should not be allowed to trample on the rights of the minority. I do not contest that. But, as Porous says, the law of the land must be obeyed. The question then is: how do we decide the law of the land? In determining the law of the ...
- Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:59 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: OPEN LETTER TO PROGRESSIVE DAWOODI BOHRAS
- Replies: 276
- Views: 29433
Re: OPEN LETTER TO PROGRESSIVE DAWOODI BOHRAS
Porus and Humsafar, Sadly, I must partly disagree with you both. What you essentially claim is that all ideas are equally valid and all must hence be respected. Unfortunately, such moral relativism leads to ethical paralysis. We can not then judge any action and can not call any action good or bad. ...
- Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:47 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra clergy should take note
- Replies: 30
- Views: 3957
Re: Bohra clergy should take note
despite all this if a million people or a majority of them want to be loyal to syedna then there has to be something positive that they find in their faith? vecause its not possible to fool a mass of educated affluent class of people who have access to all the information needed for the entirety of...
- Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:10 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Disturbing revelations...!!
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10090
Re: Disturbing revelations...!!
Those who think that the Bohras believe the "real quran is with the imam" should produce proof for this. Otherwise, one would conclude that all their views on bohras are based on hatred and lies. The da'is have never said that the quran in not authetic or the "real" one is with t...
- Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:57 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Disturbing revelations...!!
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10090
Re: Disturbing revelations...!!
My first question to you is why do i need to go through the history of bohras and ismailis and why should i ? Am i here to prove that bohras are wrong or right? Why do i have to go put everyting through the sunni and shia and bohra framework. I simply want to learn about Islam and what i have learn...
- Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:57 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Disturbing revelations...!!
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10090
Re: Disturbing revelations...!!
Biradar I was told not to enter where Sabak was given since I did not have RAZA. This is possible, of course. The reason is not that things are secret but that the classes are graded. You need to go through basics first before attending the more advanced ones. I think this is reasonable. However, i...
- Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:58 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Disturbing revelations...!!
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10090
Re: Disturbing revelations...!!
TBG: No one is preventing you from reading what you like. Everything you want to know about the history of the bohras and the Ismailis is available in any good university library. Of course, with easy availability of information one needs to exercise caution as there is a lot of negative stereotypes...
- Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:37 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Disturbing revelations...!!
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10090
Re: Disturbing revelations...!!
Br. Porus, Welcome back... I have a few questions.. It is a well known fact that our prophet(pbuh) did not know how to read and write. In that case the only way he could have ensured authenticity of Quran is: I do not speak for porus, but bohras do not believe that the prophet was illiterate. The m...
- Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Disturbing revelations...!!
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10090
Re: Disturbing revelations...!!
I would like to point out that the solution to the corrupt behavior of the present administration is not that we all abandon our cultural and historical roots. The bohras have very rich literature, culture and history. The "Yusufali and Bukhrari" camp would have us forgot all of that, dest...
- Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:42 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Disturbing revelations...!!
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10090
Re: Disturbing revelations...!!
I do not contest that the present administration is power hungry and the only thing that motivates it is money and control over other people's lives. However, I think we should be careful that we accept the basic doctrines of our community and recognize that these are not a recent "innovations&...
- Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:20 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Disturbing revelations...!!
- Replies: 78
- Views: 10090
Re: Disturbing revelations...!!
Actually, there is nothing in the above tale of Al Zulfiqar that is truly an innovation of the last two da'is. I suggest that one not be in a hurry to simply criticize before knowing the truth. One makes a fool of ones self. First, what the young man is describing is the traditional knowledge impart...
- Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:17 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The Quran on hunting and killing of animals for sport
- Replies: 454
- Views: 140355
Re: The Quran on hunting and killing of animals for sport
Biradar, Fortunately, I have chosen not to deal with you at all, but if and when I do, I promise you, I won't be civil or polite as I do not consider you deserving of such. Currently, my preference is to deal with only one Average Moron or Fart Bank at a time. Also, I think you can learn something ...
- Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:13 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The Quran on hunting and killing of animals for sport
- Replies: 454
- Views: 140355
Re: The Quran on hunting and killing of animals for sport
Do not worry, I do not expect you to be civil or polite. Comes from reading all those translations. That can't be fixed, unfortunately.
- Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:31 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The Quran on hunting and killing of animals for sport
- Replies: 454
- Views: 140355
Re: The Quran on hunting and killing of animals for sport
Fart, See what I mean? You still can't figure out the literal from the not. You aren't capable of talking about the quran. So please, continue letting me slap you around. :wink: Witness the enlightened state reached by one who has read all possible translations of the Quran and hadith. Wow, what a ...
- Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:22 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Saudi Law allows pedophilia.
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2966
Re: Saudi Law allows pedophilia.
Here we witness a tactic used by obscurantist mullah and alims. If your house stinks then point to others to distract attention from your own mess. Mulla saheb, the question of age of consent in various countries is irrelevant. If Wahhabi/Salafi Islam is such a blessing to humanity maybe it should b...
- Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:44 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The Quran on hunting and killing of animals for sport
- Replies: 454
- Views: 140355
Re: The Quran on hunting and killing of animals for sport
The question if Engineer drinks or not is totally irrelevant to this post. S. Insaf has clearly shown that this is just fabricated lies against him. Al Muizz may be a neurosurgen by profession but he has proved himself a fool in practice. I am now really worried about the education imparted in Ameri...
- Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:45 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Saudi Law allows pedophilia.
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2966
Saudi Law allows pedophilia.
As discussed on this board before, Islamic law, at least as practiced by the Salafi/Wahhabis allows marriage of old men and little girls, as young as eight: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7999777.stm Thankfully, the Saudis are now trying to regulate this. However, the religious mullahs and o...
- Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:54 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Justice: Taliban style.
- Replies: 0
- Views: 225
Justice: Taliban style.
Once more the Taliban are showing us the real meaning of the message of mercy and love as preached by the Prophet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7997749.stm Soon, this menace will spread to Pakistan and then to India. Of course, mullahs and alims on this board will be quick to blame America ...
- Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:52 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Shia men can rape thier wives every fourth night
- Replies: 39
- Views: 4801
Re: Shia men can rape thier wives every fourth night
As Alim al-Awal Mulla Anajmi as said, women enjoy great rights in Islam. From the view of wicked Westerners these rights may seem like treating women as second-class citizens, but who are these Westerners to comment on the great and mighty religion of Islam? If Muslim women appear nothing but sex ch...
- Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:31 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sayedna in ICU
- Replies: 188
- Views: 30158
Re: Sayedna in ICU
No doubt owing to my wicked and corrupt nature, I have started to suspect that our beloved Aqa Mola (TUS) is not really sick at all. I think this is a clever ploy on the part of the Kotharis to whip up a frenzy in the community and at the last moment make our Mola (TUS) appear in Karbala or Najaf to...
- Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:28 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Evolution/ Darwinism
- Replies: 37
- Views: 3439
Re: Evolution/ Darwinism
I believe, on simple observation of the world around me, that Darwin was certainly wrong. Obviously all scriptures tell us that God made us in His image or that we are Allah's greatest creation. Now, how can one compare such beautiful, amazing and scientifically accurate ancient scriptures with the ...
- Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:47 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Shia men can rape thier wives every fourth night
- Replies: 39
- Views: 4801
Shia men can rape thier wives every fourth night
Here is what the new Afghan government passed as the new Shia Family Law: "As long as the husband is not traveling, he has the right to have sexual intercourse with his wife every fourth night," Article 132 of the law says. "Unless the wife is ill or has any kind of illness that inter...