Dawoodi Bohra Forum

I have not run-off anywhere James. Just been busy with work and other commitments. Let me just say in simple words: If they have misled me, I will reconsider. I am open to the truth, inshallah. I have not read your full post, and likely may not for a while as I am busy - but inshallah, I pray that t...

And James, Why don't you answer that claim that SMS made in court that nass was done on Imam Ismail, then on Musa Kazim, and then it was changed to Imam Ismail's son. Is that correct, and can it be done according to Ismaili doctrine? And is it consistent with what SMB and STS have said? If so, why d...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/syedna-succession-case-can-a-dai-tweak-doctrine-for-the-sake-of-community-101674155100154.html Sir James, I don't have to bang my head, but I read this article (don't know how accurately the reporter captured it) and below is what it says, for what ...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/syedna-succession-case-can-a-dai-tweak-doctrine-for-the-sake-of-community-101674155100154.html From the above article: "Dwarkadas referred to four events namely a baithak (meeting of the Dai with the senior members of the community) in August 2...

so apparently, BJP had its executive committee meeting yesterday. Modi said that BJP needs to make an effort to reach out to Muslim communities, especially the educated ones. he mentioned Bohra and 2 other communities, dont know which ones now certianly not something to be proud of, especially when...

"SKQ says that nass according to the tenants of the Dawoodi Bohra faith was done on him. And he was told to keep it confidential until SMB passes away. And so, he did that. He would say that this is a matter of religion, and he believes (his faith/his beliefs) that he is supposed to strictly f...

After reading everyone's comments here and following the court arguments as printed in Hindustan Times, i believe the Chief Judge is pushing the SKQ/STF to reply satisfactorily to his one question, and the whole case hinges on the reply to this question. The question is, why didn't KQ go to SMB bet...

After reading everyone's comments here and following the court arguments as printed in Hindustan Times, i believe the Chief Judge is pushing the SKQ/STF to reply satisfactorily to his one question, and the whole case hinges on the reply to this question. The question is, why didn't KQ go to SMB bet...

Could it be that they are out of all other options/ideas and are likely wrong, and hence making such an outrageous claim? These types of arguments are made deliberately, to muddy the waters. Most Bohras (I would say 90-95%) have no clue what any text says, specially about such obscure matters like ...

Brothers I found out the Bombay High Court argument are available live on zoom. Anybody can log in. The timings are from 10.30 to 4.30 Bombay time Monday to Friday. ......................... SKQ side also argued that the nass cannot be changed or cancel. The brought example of 5th 6th and 7th Imam ...

I think the FD side is also not very capable. The Zahir-Batin conspiracy is very well documented, and recordings of family members of SMB berating SKQ exist. Muffy was the central pole around whom the conspiracy revolved. It is well-documented on this board and analyzed in great detail here. Furthe...

Very interesting from SMS side their lawyers stood up during this and said that actually after the 6th Imam died, the 5th Imam did nass on another son Moosa Qazeem and then later changed the nass to the 7th Imam after some time. SMS lawyer also said that this is a very sensitive matter and the cour...

Brothers I found out the Bombay High Court argument are available live on zoom. Anybody can log in. The timings are from 10.30 to 4.30 Bombay time Monday to Friday. ...... They also said the SKQ claims about the coterie that tried to malign him was completely false and that there was no campaign ag...

Does anybody have an idea what fraction of the community is following this case?

More on the case from Hindustan Times. I have to say they are doing a pretty good job of daily coverage of this case: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/plaintiff-casts-doubts-on-veracity-of-will-produced-by-defence-witness-101670351838596-amp.html Again, the argument is if the nass ...

........................ I am now certain that SMB must have changed his mind in the end, but could not pull it off. He may have mentioned to some people that he intends to do nass on Muffy but then the stroke hit him and he could not do it in the public manner he likely wanted to do. His kids pani...

Bhai Biradar,

The axiom A1: As per Bohra doctrine, the claim is that it is applicable only to the mazoom, or to any ordinary Bohra?

Just trying to understand the Bohra doctrine, that is all.

some of the earlier comments about a Hindu judge are irrelevant in my mind. The judge will go by the logic and that can be seen from his initial judgements on the "framing of the arguments" too. In fact, I would posit that a Hindu judge would be better able to evaluate this compared to a B...

All these hindu judges are studying and learning about Nass and Dai sole successor on earth, what must be going in their minds ? Their belief in idols and their own religion will be getting more stronger and laughing their hearts out. ...... The question is simple: did or did not SMB do nass on SKQ...

Also, there was a court case called the "Saifee Mahal court case" that SKQ supposedly had won. What was the judgment in the same, and is it publicly available? Finally, long back (at the start of the case), somebody had put (on this thread) a list of some of the documents submitted. Can so...

if we go by material proof as per the law, clearly TF is winning the case with the letter and other proofs. it will be interesting to know what fanatics of Muffy does when their leader is proven liar in courts. :lol: Could you please explain to me (other layman bohras) what material proofs have you...

BUSHRA! Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin TUS proclaims Nass upon Shahzada Aali Qadr Mufaddal Bhaisaheb Saifuddin Saheb TUS Posted on June 5, 2011 by DBNet Editor (ap) BUSHRA! Last night (Eve of 4th Rajab), on the Urs Mubarak of Syedna Nur Mohammed Nuruddin (RA), Huzurala (TUS) conferred Nass on Shz Ali Q...

yfm wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:03 am Whether we are fools or not, we have to trust STF and SMS. Should we not?

They fight but we pay their costs.

Let us wait for the Judgement on December 24.

The final arguments will end on December 23rd. I wonder when the judge will publicly announce the judgement.

Will the final arguments be covered publicly, or, they will also be "restricted", and we will know things only after the judgement is made?

Will the judgement, and all the material after that, even be publicly available??

"The trial in the matter is now complete and it is ready for final hearing" After 8 long years the case is finally coming to an end. Final arguments start on 28th of November and continue every day until 23rd of Dec. Judge G.S.Patel will have special sessions only for this case. He says n...

Is anyone able to venture into forecasting the result of the case?! I would not hazard to guess the result of a case. However, I hope that the truth comes out and the community gets to see it. Justice Ahmadi had said that SKQ and family had shown him some documents that made him feel that SKQ was o...

I am guessing you all are talking about this second video.....I agree, there are so many things so utterly wrong with his(DMBS) behaviour..words cannot even describe his actions.. DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb https://www.dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/download/file.php?mode=view&id=4125 The ac...

The real reason why SMS is going berserk with money collection is to do with the recent events related to the court case. What is happening here is no minister wants to get involved in internal family matters and the PM has also indicated that he cannot take law into his hands. But will try to nego...

I was there and let me tell you the actual reason for the invite, of course it was all even more propaganda. This clip is incomplete. There was a comment made by the Dr about how the nass was done in Cromwell Hospital. I don't remember it word for word, but he was talking about how much SMB loved L...

Brother Biradar, You say: "If I look at STF’s siblings, the only with even a modicum of intelligence is his older sister, Bazat Tahera. His so-called mazoon and specially his so-called mukasir are both somewhat dense and foolish. STF is not a bad guy, ..." Would you care to explain how yo...