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by salaar
Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:17 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

I have a very old book, a majlis compilation inherited from my great grandfather, in that book many events of Karbala is narrated. In the recent past I didn't hear many of the events in the book in our majalis and thought that these might not be true but for the last ten years I am observing that ev...
by salaar
Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Functionary of Yazidi force in Husaini Dawat?
Replies: 59
Views: 14866

Re: Functionary of Yazidi force in Husaini Dawat?

No hurry they can wait for the next demise in the family ESSA PEER NA MOUSA PEER SAB SE BARA HAE PAISA PEER
by salaar
Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

karbala is a battle of determination for the right cause, it was never intended to be fought to defeat the enemy but it was fought to prove that with tryranny and barbarism you can kill the body but not the soul. maula Hussain upheld the kalematus shahadat by sacrificing whatever he had, 90% events ...
by salaar
Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:41 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

About banu a.s who is ummul aimmat after sometime in Medina she asked imam ali zainul abideen to accompany her to Iran where she wanted to go and meet her ma sahiba and brother who had accepted Islam much earlier. Maulatena banu was deeply grieved and weak, they had earlier plan to go to Iran that i...
by salaar
Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

It might be so that this tabari has prominently influenced the compilation of tareekh Karbala but as according to our believe fatimi imams who were the true heirs of maula Hussain carried the gham and buka of imam a.s among their followers and shia, like Quran was compiled at a later stage similarly...
by salaar
Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:09 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

Do you know what happened to banu a.s after Karbala?
by salaar
Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

We specifically use the name Zainab and Kulsoom for the daughters of Maula Ali whereas Arabs call them Zainab e kubra and Zainab e Sughra.
by salaar
Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:59 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

You cannot convince people who are bound to do argument for the sake of argument. As for the name of the father of the 4 year old boy his name is never mentioned, imam Hasan had an extended family and many sons whose generations upheld the name of Imam Hasan but imam at was only in the family of Ima...
by salaar
Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:36 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

Sorry majlis not males
by salaar
Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:34 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

Don't mix things keep the topic of Karbala seperate from the present state of foolishness which SMS abdes are practicing and if you think bohra males contents about Karbala is so doubtful why do you listen to it go some other place which suits you.
by salaar
Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:15 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

Don't promote unnecessary doubts if you are so smart to understand that it is impossible then do you think waizeen are such fools to arouse the controversy. In the waiz it is alwaysa said Imam Hasan name aik 4 waras na Farzand hata., as I earlier said this farzand(son) was the son of imam hasans son...
by salaar
Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:00 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Replies: 41
Views: 9916

Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura

The incident related to the 4 year old grandson of imam Hasan is not new it has been quoted a number of times even during the waiz of syedna Mohammad burhanuddin I am a witness to it, about mukhtar coming after 3 days, who quotes all these baseless stories it was never said in any waiz haven't you h...
by salaar
Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:40 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Awareness of Imamate Concept
Replies: 107
Views: 12636

Re: Awareness of Imamate Concept

Imamate concept, something on which we have our belief and reliance. when i was young i often used to ask my papa where is imam uz zaman and then would start guessing maybe he is in europe or macca or may be living closeby, that curiosity was never answered. this concept of imamat is like a super he...
by salaar
Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:04 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
Replies: 2710
Views: 703499

Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

I consider Muawiya to be the major convict for all the tyranny that started from the period of usman and ended at karbala, Yazeed was a fool who openly did all the zulm on the family of RasoolAllah im a short period of his rule that was 3 years and 7 months but this muawiya was a treacherous man who...
by salaar
Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:22 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

Sometimes typing thru cell phone we hurriedly commit many grammatical mistake like in the last reply it should be intending. Pls excuse and ignore
by salaar
Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:08 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

Disillusioned I never said that the 4 year old was the son of Mohammad ul baqir I was just intended to say that like Mohammad ul baqir who was the grandson of imam Hussain , this 4 year old was the grandson of imam Hasan.
by salaar
Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:32 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

First please let me clear I am not at all defending SMS, Iam myself a critic of his money making theories. Now you were talking abt Jabir bin Abdullah al Ansari and his objection on Imam Hasans decision but intentions matters a lot in contrast i would give you an example of Bilal e Habshi who was th...
by salaar
Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:51 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: FATE OF THE CRIMINALS OF KARBALA
Replies: 2
Views: 1886

Re: FATE OF THE CRIMINALS OF KARBALA

Mukhtar did everything to get Raza and patronage from Imam Ali Zainul Abideen he tried to convince him through some of ashaabs and prominent muhibben of Maula Ali but everytime the Imam refused and said 'Hamay sabar ikhtiar kido che anay talwar niyam ma kidi che' the actual objective of mukhtar was ...
by salaar
Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:22 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

In yesterday"s majlis there was a bayan that imam Hasan"s four year old son died in karbala.so much emontional.hands cut down and all so that.but I don't understand Karbala battel had taken place 10 years after demise of imam Hasan.so how can his four year old son be there.first I thought...
by salaar
Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:47 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: FATE OF THE CRIMINALS OF KARBALA
Replies: 2
Views: 1886

FATE OF THE CRIMINALS OF KARBALA

......... FATE OF THE CRIMINALS OF KARBALA......... Mukhtar Avenges the Perpetrators: After providing adequate stability in Kufa, Mukhtar asked Ibrahim to proceed with the mission, and he enforced an utterly tight blockade of Kufa so no perpetrator could escape. The Karbala perpetrators were taken b...
by salaar
Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:40 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

I advise you bro biradar to control your language and emotions and stop callingnames to majlis you may have differences with some person but when you are referring to majlis Hussain you observe respects
by salaar
Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

The first picture is before the waiz in which the paatlo is being placed. This paatlo is placed by a senior and considered a privilege as the papers and book of the vaizeen is placed upon it
by salaar
Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

Bhai GM you are right about learning and concentrating the broader perspective of Karbala but then for some it becomes aray gham kiya baat Thai woh tou shaheed hue tum gham kiyo kartay ho... the reason is that they start feeling uncomfortable when the hardships and masaibs of Dahl e bayt is glorifie...
by salaar
Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:54 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

Initially the battle was fought jointly as according to an agreement between Abbas Allamdar and their army chief it was decided that since Hussain army is so small arrows will not be used and both the armies would fight with swords. As we hear in majlis that the 72 were divided into three portions t...
by salaar
Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

If Karbala is a story for you then why not everything why not qasasul anbia mentioned in Quran also stories. Pls don't make us feel that this is a wahabi forum rather then progressive bohra forum..
by salaar
Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza
Replies: 78
Views: 34026

Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

Well as earlier said I would appreciate the rewards that you mentioned if it comes free of cost but wallah ul azeem what I said is very true but in any case why should it be considered anything important as these could be just a wild guess by an ordinary momin and not official wordings of nass
by salaar
Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ashara 1436 Surat
Replies: 450
Views: 107244

Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

Zalzalo mai dunya this aasma larazta tha... Rayeg garm sehra par Shah e deen ka laasha tha... bae qarar moujey thi shoola baar darya tha... Ibn e Saqi e Kausar teen din se piyasa tha... Har qadam pae thoukar thi dil mae dard uthta tha... Shah ki naatawani thi noujawan ka laasha tha... Qalb fouj mae ...
by salaar
Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:34 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza
Replies: 78
Views: 34026

Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

I would gladly accept all such glorifications and ikraam if offered without cost, however I consider the true recipient of these honours should be the Shaikh sahib who uttered these words and only Allah knows what were the grounds upon which he passed that statement. That Shaikh sahib died 5 years b...
by salaar
Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:44 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza
Replies: 78
Views: 34026

Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

This is just my experience that I am sharing don't label it another moujiza
by salaar
Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:40 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza
Replies: 78
Views: 34026

Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

In the year 1981 that is abt 33 years back when I was a young boy i remember I was sitting with my father and some of his friends most of them were shaikhs and active participants, one of them passed a comment MANSOOS TOU SHAHZADA MUFADDAL BHAI SAAB CHE... this comment was not taken up for any furth...