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by progticide
Fri May 06, 2011 8:25 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing
Replies: 78
Views: 7718

Re: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing

Another stupid attempt by a prog to digress from the subject. You guys really don't have any answers to the above questions since you dont have a leader or single authority. Giving Sunni example of Shura only proves your inclination towards the Sunni school of thought. Indirectly and unknowingly you...
by progticide
Fri May 06, 2011 7:31 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing
Replies: 78
Views: 7718

Re: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing

It is very difficult to know a group/community’s official stand on any matter (whether religious, social or political) if they do not have a single leader or authority because every member of that group/community proclaims himself/herself to be the leader and spokesperson on all issues relating to t...
by progticide
Thu May 05, 2011 1:15 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing
Replies: 78
Views: 7718

Re: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing

All the insults, name-calling and abuse posted by the progs above is a sufficient proof per se that my above observation is undeniably true, factual and precise. The progs, indeed, have nothing to brag about as their accomplishments. You have sort to claim as your own those who were not the originat...
by progticide
Wed May 04, 2011 8:15 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing
Replies: 78
Views: 7718

What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing

The three accomplishments of progressives in their history are listed below: 1. Condemnation : Not only from mainstream Dawoodi Bohras who never appreciated or found any common cause with the progressive movement, but also from those who spearheaded the movement in the initial days and were soon dis...
by progticide
Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:57 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Let's hear from Insaf
Replies: 53
Views: 7673

Re: Let's hear from Insaf

O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you . If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination. [Holy Quran Surah A...
by progticide
Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:25 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The rise of the Fatimi Empire (Again)
Replies: 38
Views: 6417

Re: The rise of the Fatimi Empire (Again)

Doctor Mubarak, If you have nothing to do with the Duat Mutlaqeen of the fatemi dawat and you are ok with the insult and disrespect attributed to them on this forum by your brethren in faith, then why are you bothered about what is happening with the Dawoodi Bohra community. You have anyways chosen ...
by progticide
Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Syedna Saheb is 96 years not 100 years old
Replies: 83
Views: 8910

Re: Syedna Saheb is 96 years not 100 years old

Doctor Mubarak, Rather than posting irrational replies on stupid subjects maybe you should have cared to respond to the insolent and disgusting thoughts of your "brethren in faith" for the Duat Mutlaqeen and Hudud Fodhola. Go read the replies posted on the topic " porus v/s Mubarak&qu...
by progticide
Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:03 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Porus v/s Mubarak.....who do progs consider correct
Replies: 10
Views: 830

Re: Porus v/s Mubarak.....who do progs consider correct

The silence from doctor Mubarak and all other reformists in condemning the act of defamation and disrespect for the 43rd Dai al Mutlaq of the fatemi dawat establishes the official reformist position that "they have disassociated themselves from the Fatemi dawat and do not subscribe to any pract...
by progticide
Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:24 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Porus v/s Mubarak.....who do progs consider correct
Replies: 10
Views: 830

Re: Porus v/s Mubarak.....who do progs consider correct

And We have certainly diversified in this Qur'an for the people from every [kind of] example; but man has ever been, most of anything, [prone to] dispute. And nothing has prevented the people from believing when guidance came to them and from asking forgiveness of their Lord except that there [must...
by progticide
Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Porus v/s Mubarak.....who do progs consider correct
Replies: 10
Views: 830

Re: Porus v/s Mubarak.....who do progs consider correct

So now this is another munafiq Zulfiqar (l.a) who thinks syedi sadiq ali is mushriq (nauzobillah). Seems Doctor Mubarak is in minority within his own biradari. Two of his own lieutenants despise the very saint whose works Doctor mubarak quotes to elucidate his arguments. So who is now cheating whom?...
by progticide
Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:08 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Porus v/s Mubarak.....who do progs consider correct
Replies: 10
Views: 830

Porus v/s Mubarak.....who do progs consider correct

Mubarak writes about Syedi Sadiq Ali Saheb as "One of the prominent authorities on ‘nasihat’ in Dawoodi Bohras Ismailiya Shia is Aaka Sheikh Sadik Ali Sahib, Surat." Refer the topic "Dawoodi Bohras" on this forum with below posted thread Re: Dawoodi Bohras by Mubarak on Sat Feb 1...
by progticide
Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:02 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Syedna, shehzadas And Aamils Ek baal Na 3 Katka
Replies: 13
Views: 2695

Re: Syedna, shehzadas And Aamils Ek baal Na 3 Katka

Syedna Saheb and his family members are masters and Amils are their slaves and employees. Amils vested interest in extortion are added causing more miseries for us. The only solution is to start a 'Civil Disobedience movement' against Amils. Do not recognise them at all. Don't go to them for Raza a...
by progticide
Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:27 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Syedna, shehzadas And Aamils Ek baal Na 3 Katka
Replies: 13
Views: 2695

Re: Syedna, shehzadas And Aamils Ek baal Na 3 Katka

Syedna Saheb and his family members are masters and Amils are their slaves and employees. Amils vested interest in extortion are added causing more miseries for us. The only solution is to start a 'Civil Disobedience movement' against Amils. Do not recognise them at all. Don't go to them for Raza a...
by progticide
Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:55 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Syedi Sadiq Ali Saheb's Nasihat
Replies: 108
Views: 20328

Re: Syedi Sadiq Ali Saheb's Nasihat

This is nothing but another cowardly act of digressing from the subject and copy-pasting same old rubbish to divert attention of the participants on the forum. The question is who between the two infidels & liars i.e. Mubarak and Porous, should be condemned first by the reformist. If you have no...
by progticide
Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:32 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Syedi Sadiq Ali Saheb's Nasihat
Replies: 108
Views: 20328

Re: Syedi Sadiq Ali Saheb's Nasihat

I know this observation would again be met with the same criticism and refutation. But it is far more important that I illustrate the fallacy of your thoughts, practices and beliefs. You accept it or reject it is a matter of your conscious choice. On this forum, I have repeatedly come across the thr...
by progticide
Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada
Replies: 224
Views: 34994

Re: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada

Doctor, Dentist, Vet, Mubarak or whatever you are…. If you have objection to sajada for Dai, don’t do it. No one is enforcing it on you to perform sajada. If you have objection to Matam (from whatever source you can justify this argument) don’t perform Matam. No one is enforcing it on you. If you ha...
by progticide
Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:46 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Eventually….Reformists shall seek new Identity
Replies: 13
Views: 1933

Re: Eventually….Reformists shall seek new Identity

Mr. Insaf,

Read the above posted replies and you would know what I was referring to in my last message to you in another topic "Let's hear from Insaf".

Food for thought?
by progticide
Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:11 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Let's hear from Insaf
Replies: 53
Views: 7673

Re: Let's hear from Insaf

Mr. Insaf, I wanted to address an elderly and educated person like you with a prefix Dear or Respected or atleast a suffix Ji. But honestly speaking, all virtues of respect and dignity have been violated on this forum. Even enemies can show respect to each other, then whether it be a war fought with...
by progticide
Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:20 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Enemy of the Imam uz zaman
Replies: 7
Views: 4415

Re: Enemy of the Imam uz zaman

Liar Mubarak, are you blind or brainless. Did you bother to read my post and try to understand what I was discussing about in this blog. If you dont have any rational argument to submit on this post, than you better keep your rubbish to yourself and ask your leader Insaf to be brave enough to reply...
by progticide
Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:43 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Let's hear from Insaf
Replies: 53
Views: 7673

Re: Let's hear from Insaf

Insaf and all other older reformists. You may avoid answering to these questions on this forum, but what would you do when one of your own ask you to answer these in your own meetings & gatherings? Do you even know the answers for these? This is the legacy that you would leave behind for your fe...
by progticide
Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:03 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Eventually….Reformists shall seek new Identity
Replies: 13
Views: 1933

Eventually….Reformists shall seek new Identity

To understand what I mean by stating that the reformist shall seek a new identity eventually, although they may deny this vehemently today, one has to study the past impartially, observe the present meticulously and make note of the current developments shaping the future cultural behaviourism among...
by progticide
Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada
Replies: 224
Views: 34994

Re: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada

Well then, to everyone’s surprise, here’s the truth. The book Mausam e Bahar was not even remotely authored by Syedna Abdeali Saifuddin saheb. The author of this book is some Shaikh Muhammad Ali Ibn Mulla Jiwabhai. Not surprising at all! The author of Mausam-e-bahar has been previously mentioned ri...
by progticide
Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:38 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada
Replies: 224
Views: 34994

Re: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada

I understand your problem. You are intellectually dishonest and not true to yourself. Porus bhai, I have experienced similar with Aqs. In reference to chest beating (which Burhanuddin sahab/Shabab group incorrectly refers as "Matam"). I presented Sayyedina va Aaka va Molana Abd-a-Ali Saif...
by progticide
Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Enemy of the Imam uz zaman
Replies: 7
Views: 4415

Re: Enemy of the Imam uz zaman

Now this is some news.... A source of mine close to the seniors in kothar has informed me that a prominent reformist leader is constantly in touch with them from last week of March for personal reconciliation and is willing to offer public apology for his actions and ready to give Misaq at the earli...
by progticide
Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Enemy of the Imam uz zaman
Replies: 7
Views: 4415

Enemy of the Imam uz zaman

Insaf! Here’s another chance for you to shower your vast knowledge upon your subordinates. Hope you won't disappoint them this time. 1. Do you believe that Maulatana Hurratul Maleka held the office of Hujjat during Imam Aamir (A.S.)’s reign? If you don’t believe, don’t bother to answer below questio...
by progticide
Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:51 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada
Replies: 224
Views: 34994

Re: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada

Bismillah hir Rehman nir Rahim Remember when your Lord said to the angels, "I am going to create a man (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud. So when I have fashioned him completely and breathed into him (Adam) the soul which I created for him then fall you down prostrating your...
by progticide
Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:33 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Let's hear from Insaf
Replies: 53
Views: 7673

Re: Let's hear from Insaf

Now this was not expected from you Insaf. My sources within your community inform me that you have been advised by your followers not to answer on this thread lest if you fail to answer these simple questions objectively your marginal followers could get disillusioned and realising their mistake wou...
by progticide
Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:19 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Let's hear from Insaf
Replies: 53
Views: 7673

Re: Let's hear from Insaf

What's the matter Insaf? Cat caught your tongue or are you now calculating the zakat that is due on you? It's an aweful amount of time you've taken to respond to some very simple questions....and your fellow reformist are waiting for you to answer. Sure you don't wanna let them down. They've already...
by progticide
Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:41 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Let's hear from Insaf
Replies: 53
Views: 7673

Re: Let's hear from Insaf

At the beginning of this topic I had requested that Chamchas stay out....let Insaf answer this. But some morons on this forum would just not allow any topic to be debated objectively especially when they find that their leader is cornered. That is precisely what is happening here again. Every prog i...
by progticide
Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:42 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Let's hear from Insaf
Replies: 53
Views: 7673

Re: Let's hear from Insaf

I am neither a bohri nor a reformist but i would like to give my opinion on this matter, 1.no where in Quraan it says that a paerticular person shud collect the zakaat including prophet. 2.if you look in the broad sense ZAKAT is ment to be given to the poor so that human can understand the feeling ...