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by porus
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:07 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramadan Calculation Method ?
Replies: 177
Views: 37279

Re: Ramadan Calculation Method ?

The prophet (saw) has said to look for the moon on the 29th. If not found, then the month is 30 days. So how did it become clear to porus that the prophet did not bother sighting the moon? Maybe the same way an ambiguous ayah becomes clear to him?? Prophet is alleged to have said: look for the moon...
by porus
Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:59 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramadan Calculation Method ?
Replies: 177
Views: 37279

Re: Ramadan Calculation Method ?

even if you do not see the moon you will end your fasting when you have completed your 30 fasts. Where then does your insistence on sighting the moon disappear? Actually, the insistence is on following the tradition of the prophet (saw). Completion after 30 days is also from the prophet (saw), who ...
by porus
Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:10 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

I want to address the issues raised in another thread about 'paying' for intercession. We have established that only the Prophet has permission to intercede with Allah. We do not know if any one else has the permission to intercede with Allah. If you decide to follow a person who you believe is the ...
by porus
Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramadan Calculation Method ?
Replies: 177
Views: 37279

Re: Ramadan Calculation Method ?

Our brother Muslim First cannot let go of this discussion. He keeps sending me pm's about it. Here is the latest exchange about whether or not I know if Prophet fasted for exactly 30 days in Ramadan. Br. It is your claim that fast in Ramadaan is fixed, that is 30 days, not mine. Brother, You have no...
by porus
Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:39 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

I am just jotting down a few thoughts. They are not my final views. I am still pondering over them. Most people need a waseela = 'means of approach' to be close to Allah in accordance with 5:35. They would follow those mentioned in 4:69. Even for that, they would need help. How best to follow those ...
by porus
Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:04 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Where is this Forum Headed? It's aims are confusing.
Replies: 27
Views: 6610

Re: Where is this Forum Headed? It's aims are confusing.

It would be advisable to make a distinction between the aim of the Website as a whole and the aim of the Forum within it. The website's aims are precisely described in the Home page. Forum's aims are to provide an opportunity for discussions. The fact that the Forum provides almost unfettered access...
by porus
Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Scandal of Bradford Jamat
Replies: 20
Views: 6628

Re: Scandal of Bradford Jamat

And do you know according to Islam what is punishment is "Stoned to death". There is no such thing in Islam. It is not in the Quran. However, I think, it is prescribed in the current Bible. No one is defending the rogue Shaikh. Let us get the proper perspective on this. You need not tar t...
by porus
Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:32 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Choosing faith for my self !!!
Replies: 8
Views: 3607

Re: Choosing faith for my self !!!

I will not participate in any more dialogues on this forum, because its not my business and concern any more. I commend you on your decision and let me be the first to congratulate you on discovering your 'true' faith'. It is your God-given right to choose a faith for yourself and I wish you good l...
by porus
Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:50 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramadan Calculation Method ?
Replies: 177
Views: 37279

Re: Ramadan Calculation Method ?

Calendar is a man-made device, Idiot. We know we cannot have fixed days in all 12 months. Some need to be changed occasionally. It is just that Bohras decide to change a month other than Ramadan. God did not give us a calendar. He just told us to observe a fixed number of fasts. Bohras interpret tha...
by porus
Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramadan Calculation Method ?
Replies: 177
Views: 37279

Re: Ramadan Calculation Method ?

Idiot, understand that Bohras will not follow you. Stop barking here or perhaps keep barking all you want. Bohras will fast for 30 days all over the world according to Misri Calendar. Bohra interpretation is the days of Ramadan are fixed. They do not change year after year. Even if orbital anomalies...
by porus
Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:55 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ramadan Calculation Method ?
Replies: 177
Views: 37279

Re: Ramadan Calculation Method ?

Moon's orbit around the earth is 29.5 Solar Days. My simple math tells me that here will are 30 sunrises between successive new moons. Hence the figure of 30 days Issue is complicated by the fact that Earth is not stationary and has its own orbit around the sun. Thus 30-day rule may not strictly app...
by porus
Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:56 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

Imam Jafar Sadiq is represented in ayah 26:98 - a false deity. When he is removed from the equation by Allah, bohras will be beating their heads saying - "And now we have none to intercede for us"!!! 26:92 and they will be asked: “Where now is all that you were wont to worship 26:93 inste...
by porus
Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:06 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Qaramata-ideal of Mufaddal Saifuddin
Replies: 2
Views: 1183

Re: Qaramata-ideal of Mufaddal Saifuddin

And what evidence do you proffer to support this assertion?
by porus
Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:01 pm
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Vladimir Putin, Top anti-Zionist?
Replies: 0
Views: 688

Vladimir Putin, Top anti-Zionist?

Way to go, Brother Nathanael

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNh52CMLhrk
by porus
Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:25 pm
Forum: The lighter side
Topic: Dancing sheikh
Replies: 5
Views: 2127

Re: Dancing sheikh

Cute!

Bad audio, but I can make out "Ya mansoor al-yaman". That is one of the titles of Mansoos, no?

Beats Maatam! Nice to see the artistic expression of genuine devotion. May God bless him.
by porus
Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:58 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

I perfectly understand what the Imam is saying. I do not see the link between what he is saying and ayat 26:100 which he quotes in support.

Let me leave this subject for now. I will return to it at a later date, Inshallah. Others may carry on if they so wish.
by porus
Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:39 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

The Ayat is : (فَمَا لنَا مِن شاَفِعيِنَ) in Surah Shoa'rah Chapter 19 Adam, Indeed it is ayat 100 from surah as-shu'ara (26:100). I did not find in Imam Jafar as-Sadiq's quote by you any explanation for his belief that Imams are/will be 'the intercessors for their shia'. He simply states it and qu...
by porus
Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 12 Adabs of Masjid
Replies: 17
Views: 5490

Re: 12 Adabs of Masjid

Primary adab of masjid for Bohras:

Do not begin praying until Aamil or Shazada turns up. When he finally turns up, stand up to do obeisance by bowing down in tasleem (submission) to him. The sun may set for Maghrib but the Azaan cannot be performed until he permits it.
by porus
Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sajda at Shrines
Replies: 8
Views: 2844

Re: Sajda at Shrines

I do not understand why this keeps coming up again and again. Allah has prohibited sajda to anyone except to Him alone. Allah's ruling on this issue should be final. Why is that so difficult to understand? Let us go over this again. Here is ayat 37 from Surat Fussilat (41:37): وَمِنْ آيَاتِهِ اللَّي...
by porus
Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:14 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

My view of intercession is shaped only by what I read in the Quran. I do not pay attention to other documents like Naseehats, Hadith, or commentaries unless they elucidate the Quran. (Adam stated that Imam Jafar al-Sadiq claimed that Prophet and Imams will intercede but I am still waiting for a para...
by porus
Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

To wish or pray for anyone to be your intercessor is fine. We do not now know who has the permission to intercede as expressly stated in the Quran. If Prophet has been mentioned, then could someone point out the relevant ayat. I believe that there is a hadith in which Prophet has said that he will ...
by porus
Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:45 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

I have understood that the difference between intercession and waseela is that the intercession is for the Day of Judgment. Waseela is for you to utilize before you meet your Maker. I would choose as a waseela from among those described in 4:69. It is your call as to who, apart from Ahlul Bayt, fits...
by porus
Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

As long as we understand that no one can intercede for you except with Allah's permission, then I do not see why anyone could not be chosen by you to do it for you. To wish or pray for anyone to be your intercessor is fine. We do not now know who has the permission to intercede as expressly stated i...
by porus
Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why do the DBs do sajda to Dai and kiss everyone's feet
Replies: 24
Views: 6478

Re: Why do the DBs do sajda to Dai and kiss everyone's feet

I want to add that Yusuf was a small boy when he saw the dream and may not have interpreted it for his father or brothers because of his age. He was then immediately separated from his family. That is only a speculation. That is why we have to wait until Yusuf had come of age before he revealed the ...
by porus
Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why do the DBs do sajda to Dai and kiss everyone's feet
Replies: 24
Views: 6478

Re: Why do the DBs do sajda to Dai and kiss everyone's feet

1. Allah is not mentioned as a subject in any ayat closer to this context, thus the ـه in له talks about "someone" other Allah. They gave Sajda to SOMEONE (a human). Not mentioning the subject or object explicitly is not uncommon in Quran. You are aware that many times they are 'mahDoof'....
by porus
Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:31 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

In their prayers Bohras use these words in 'allahumma rabbad-daawatit-tamma' after iqamat and also in 'nano tashahud' after the first two rakaat in fard namaaz. "wa taqabbal shafaata-hu fi ummati-hi". They ask Allah to accept intercession from Prophet. This is based on a hadith from Prophe...
by porus
Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:14 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: No forgiveness without intercession
Replies: 61
Views: 13747

Re: No forgiveness without intercession

In books such as Daim ul Islam, it quotes Imam Jafar al Sadiq, where he explains that the Imam will intercede between the man and Prophet, and the Prophet will intercede between Allah. Hence the Dai will intercede between Man and the Imam, and so on. This is Dawoodi Bohra belief. Adam/Badrijanab, C...
by porus
Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:53 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
Replies: 2710
Views: 711959

Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

Got the below on whatsup FINALLY, DAWAT E HADIYAH'S IS DIVIDED IN TWO Based on the recent Saify Mahal news, Estates of the Dawat E Hadiyah is being divided in two parts, one for Aqa moula and Second for Mazon Saheb Khozema Bhaisaheb. Saify Mahal and Badri Mahal will be given to Khozema Bhai Saheb. ...
by porus
Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:42 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Haze His Salat and Gaal Lotau
Replies: 17
Views: 3569

Re: Haze His Salat and Gaal Lotau

Can any one shed some light why one needs to do Gaal Lotau for Haze His Salaat, why can't it be read while sitting, What is significance of doing 42 times right side and 42 times left side. Why can't it be recited sitting or standing? Similar question about namaaz is answered in 'Taawil of Da'aim' ...
by porus
Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:39 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why do the DBs do sajda to Dai and kiss everyone's feet
Replies: 24
Views: 6478

Re: Why do the DBs do sajda to Dai and kiss everyone's feet

The best bad example of bowing, prostrating and kissing the feet (not touching) of a human being, a landlord, is in the following video link. Is it the highest level of love and respect, worship, or surrender to a proud human devil? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GvELvMiwiE&feature=player_deta...