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by think_for_yourself
Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:00 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Question to our new fanatic
Replies: 197
Views: 36492

Re: Question to our new fanatic

I think Salaar is the same old Salaar in new clothes...He did not want his master to look like a fool because he could not come up with any great qualities of Mufaddal Bhaisaheb. So he is now acting like a skeptic. Salaar Bhai it's time to retire.
by think_for_yourself
Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:23 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Question to our new fanatic
Replies: 197
Views: 36492

Re: Question to our new fanatic

This thread is so funny. Given the chance to say something positive about their "leader" Salaar, James etc. are nowhere to be seen! If someone so much as says one single positive thing about SKQ they pounce within a few hours to hurl insults. I see that they have visited this thread often ...
by think_for_yourself
Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:35 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 529074

Re: Mufaddali Defense Waez against women

There is some serious back pedaling in the believesyednaqutbuddin website. In the website they say it is OK to go out and work, interact with men etc. as a means of attaining your worldly ambitions as long as the woman wears a rida and has affirmed her home as her priority and has affirmed her deen...
by think_for_yourself
Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:10 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 529074

Re: Mufaddali Defense Waez against women

See following Bullshit in defense of Mufaddal's many Waez available in record against Women's fundamental & Constitutional Rights http://believesyednaqutbuddin.com/2014/03/18/reason-89-women-education-in-islam/ If you think that is bullshit then what this forum is all about??? There is some ser...
by think_for_yourself
Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 529074

Re: woman status in muffadal saiffudin raj

Whoops forgot...

Mumineen bhari to nahi lagu ne?
by think_for_yourself
Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 529074

Re: woman status in muffadal saiffudin raj

Aa badhu su lagavelu che. Mardo e su lagavelu che. Mardo office maa jai aa su lagavelu che office maa. Wahan bairo saathe waat karvi parhe aakho din. Ghanu mothu zina thai jai. Phone awey to namaaz jai ghanu mothu ghuna thai jai zina ghanu mothu thai jai. Mardo ghare home science maa topi guthe rida...
by think_for_yourself
Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:01 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2215
Views: 529074

Re: woman status in muffadal saiffudin raj

It is VERY clear from Mufaddal Saifuddin's bayans that he does not want women to go to University except to study home science. How are these diverse and talented women defending his stance? Will they shield their daughters from all other fields of education and force them to study home science? Wil...
by think_for_yourself
Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:07 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: article at Patheos .com
Replies: 20
Views: 5496

Re: article at Patheos .com

That picture has done many rounds on whatsapp in India. The mumineen in US think that Mufaddal bhaisaab does not oppose women's education etc and make excuses for his bayaans. However, the ground reality in India is quite different in smaller towns like mine. The women that I interact with at the m...
by think_for_yourself
Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:03 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: article at Patheos .com
Replies: 20
Views: 5496

Re: article at Patheos .com

:lol: A fight has broken out between some NJ Mufaddalys and some guy called BuffaloBull5152... on the comments on Shireen Hamza's article. The Musaddaly's have started attacking each other. One thing is for certain, Shireen certainly has some loyalty still, even among the Mufaddalys :D http://www.pa...
by think_for_yourself
Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: article at Patheos .com
Replies: 20
Views: 5496

Re: article at Patheos .com

After reading the article by shireen and a reply by his cousin. My worst fear has become a reality, like most people who fear switching sides. Excommunication from one society is not the real danger, its your own family turning against you and throwing under the bus is where the problem is. I have ...
by think_for_yourself
Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:52 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: article at Patheos .com
Replies: 20
Views: 5496

Re: article at Patheos .com

Another comment on the above picture... MufaddalMoulaZindabad • an hour ago Oh yeah and the caption also faults her for doing a PHD against the express wishes of our Moula who demands that "bairo ghar no khuno sachve ane rida ane topi ghunthe..." Do you think that we do not have other mumi...
by think_for_yourself
Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:38 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: article at Patheos .com
Replies: 20
Views: 5496

Re: article at Patheos .com

Oh and you should check out this post by "Guest". He or she is complaining that Bazat Tahera Qutbuddin is not wearing a rida.. Couple of the responses Impressed Guest • an hour ago http://universe.byu.edu/2013/0... This is the article that went along with the picture. You can tell that the...
by think_for_yourself
Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:20 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: article at Patheos .com
Replies: 20
Views: 5496

Re: article at Patheos .com

Looks like the smart ones in Mufaddal Bhaisaheb camp are realizing they don't have much company... From the comments on Shireen Hamza's article... MufaddalMoulaZindabad • 23 minutes ago Looks like the yokels among Mufaddal Moula's supporters continue to post idiotic things here, continue to contradi...
by think_for_yourself
Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: article at Patheos .com
Replies: 20
Views: 5496

Re: article at Patheos .com

Look at the comments on Shireen Hamza's article. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionnow/2014/03/schism-among-the-dawoodi-bohras/#disqus_thread There are 156 comments and many others that have been flagged and deleted. I never imagined there were so many individuals attending American masjids who h...
by think_for_yourself
Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:49 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 671504

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

"I am inspired by the way Syedna Qutbuddin envisions the practice of our faith. He has encouraged all of his daughters and sons to benefit from and contribute back to systems of higher education, and that is a large assurance to me that his view on education for women is not empty rhetoric. Ad...
by think_for_yourself
Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:20 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: succession video removed
Replies: 150
Views: 35243

Re: succession video removed

The video was removed (copyright excuses), doctored with inserted audio and then uploaded. SMB was not even able to say Ya Hussain since his stroke. Thousands of Mumineen prayed, yearned for him to say it but he could not. There is no way that he actually said anything. Very easy to add audio to a v...
by think_for_yourself
Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:33 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
Replies: 2710
Views: 705056

Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

Those who contributed to this pile deserve the money-hungry leadership they have. The more they give, the more the leadership will desire....BMW aspirations will turn to Bentleys, 1.5 acre in Sri Lanka will grow to a desire for a 1.5 acre Malibu property....The Bohra community has turned into a very...
by think_for_yourself
Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:30 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!
Replies: 169
Views: 38958

Re: Muffy celeberate the birthday!!!

Fulan Bhai, prior to the declaration by Syedna Qutbuddin, we were not posting nor reading this forum. Many thinking families were discussing and questioning the nass. One other person I know also did not give misaaq ever since they inserted the mansoos bit in it. So perhaps you lapped up the whole n...
by think_for_yourself
Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:50 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
Replies: 2710
Views: 705056

Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

Also I doubt that a Rolex for the Shehzada's son falls into any of these categories..." a fifth of it is for Allah and for the Messenger and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer. 8/41”
by think_for_yourself
Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:10 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
Replies: 2710
Views: 705056

Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

Dude Fulan, take a break. We were faulting your definition of zakat not Khumus. And like I said, SKQ is difficult to understand not impossible. You said you understood "nothing." I was challenging that. The subtitles make it easier to understand. And I am sorry you got pushed down. No one ...
by think_for_yourself
Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:20 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
Replies: 2710
Views: 705056

Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

Also, it appears from your post that you are ignorant not only about SKQ and his family but also about basic shariat. Read a little bit about what zakat is. It is a wealth tax not an income tax. Also there is no double taxation. So once you pay zakat on your savings for the year, you do not have to ...
by think_for_yourself
Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:06 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
Replies: 2710
Views: 705056

Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

Bhai Fulan, our family has done Moula's ziyafat not once but twice, Alhamdolillah. I have never once been forced to do sajda to Mazoon saheb and I did understand his waaz. It was a matter of paying attention and getting used to his impediment. It was definitely hard but definitely not impossible. Bu...
by think_for_yourself
Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:15 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
Replies: 2710
Views: 705056

Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

Okay lets assume they stopped, wrongly. Why did Maula never say anything to the contrary, that mumineen should do sajdo for him? He could have said it in waaz, taken out the so called 'corrupted' middle man. but maula didn't. Why did Moula RA not appoint MS in public when he had faculty of speech? ...
by think_for_yourself
Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:03 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 671504

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

A mumin is one who has an "aqeedat" which he holds firm. That firm aqeeda is that "For not a split second is the zameen void of hujjat of Khuda ta who is Haq" -> which implies no Imam will pass on without appointing his janasheen who is his hamshaan. In zaman of Satr the same ho...
by think_for_yourself
Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:39 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 671504

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

Continuing previous post, MS, in stark contrast, strikes me as seriously lacking in intelligence and somewhat devoid of integrity. His administration is openly and without restraint, taking every opportunity to raise cash. Every large organization needs funds, but the acceleration of the fund collec...
by think_for_yourself
Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:25 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 671504

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

The thing is even KQ doesn't have solid proof of nass. On what basis can one believe him. On the other hand, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's nass has been declared by Burhanuddin Maula's sons as they were witness. Now Allah knows better. I am presently going by that. Even I don't feel much spiritual co...
by think_for_yourself
Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why No one Walks the Talk
Replies: 63
Views: 16407

Re: Why No one Walks the Talk

Why is there so much apathy among the clearly disgruntled Bohras? Why are they not taking action to change their community life? If it because it is just easier to show up for the latest Muffy movie, sit in a dark room and read your email/surf the web on your phone rather than actually do something ...
by think_for_yourself
Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:37 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why No one Walks the Talk
Replies: 63
Views: 16407

Re: Why No one Walks the Talk

I hope that most came to Mumbai during the last 40 days because of their love for Burhanuddin Moula, but I am sure that many came because it was a 'farmaan' and their aamil did not want his report to look bad. These people who can't afford frequent trips, might have preferred to come at a later dat...
by think_for_yourself
Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:51 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 671504

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

think_for_yourself: A very well written post! The majority of Bohras are destined to wallow in their beliefs whatever comes. They are basically a low-abiding majority, subservient, pious in their own way, not worldly, not very well read and resigned to their lot. 51, 52, 53a and 53b all have a trac...
by think_for_yourself
Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)
Replies: 2529
Views: 671504

Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

Where is KQS no news of him or has given up or is he going to join muffy gang again. Yes no one from KQ gang is active now. May be they have gone underground or going back to other camp. Please Tasneempati (incidentally - my sympathies for Tasneem) no one has gone underground. We are forging ahead....