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- Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:14 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
It is not Bohras who quoted that ayat. I know that you moron. And the ayah doesn't talk about the hidden Imam and the Dai. You did. You claimed that "Walayat implies unshakeable loyalty to Imam or Dai. His word is Law. " So as per your brilliant deductions, that is what the bohra would sa...
- Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:12 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
We know you have no problems with the bohras being kafirs. We have a problem with that and are trying to solve it. Do you have a problem with us trying to reform the bohras? No. But have you considered being Kafirs may not be a problem for them? Have they invited you to solve their kafir-ness? Of c...
- Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:01 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
By the way, the more you talk the more stupid you sound. Al-Stupid, Al-Ignorant maethist eh? :wink: We know you have no problems with the bohras being kafirs. We have a problem with that and are trying to solve it. Do you have a problem with us trying to reform the bohras? If yes, why? Are we break...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Next time you are brought before a US court judge, you can quote him ayat Surah Kahf (18), ayat 26. Tell him he is not competent to judge as Judgment belongs to Allah alone. :roll: huh??? And what will the bohras do? Tell him he is not competent to judge as judgment belongs to the hidden Imam and t...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:49 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
I want to clarify that I am calling followers of Sayedna Kafirs in line with the judgement from Al-Aleem, Al-Rasheed anajmi with vocal support from Humsafar. I consider other participants here who do not object as lending tacit support to them and therefore are either genuine Bohras in Humsafar mold...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
I do not expect swelling in participation from among Bohras on this site except from self-hating Bohras. You can all entertain yourselves by bleating about kufr of Bohras until your throats become sore. I do not expect any effect on Bohras anytime soon. There was no swelling in participation for Im...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Walayat implies unshakeable loyalty to Imam or Dai. His word is Law. I have been memorizing Surah Kahf (18) for the last few days. Today I reached ayah number 26. Check it out. Next time you are brought before a US court judge, you can quote him Surah Kahf (18), ayat 26. Tell him he is not competen...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:24 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Also, I did not say that you attacked all Shia beliefs. I said that this site would become no different from sites that attack Shia beliefs, in this case Kafir beliefs. Just consider Walayat and outline the difference between Kafir's belief in it and yours, a genuine Bohra belief. Also please commen...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Humsafar, I like your response and, if the majority of participants here agree with you and anajmi here then this site is no different from many Wahabi sites whose focus is to attack all Shia, and not just Bohras and term them kafirs. Mr. atheist, you are daft and devious at the same time. In what ...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:25 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
You want to shit on atheism? Go ahead, be my guest. Make me a 'true Muslim'.anajmi wrote:Not much. But maybe that is because I don't shit enough on people like you eh?
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:36 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
And how much have you succeeded in reducing corruption and making 'true Muslims' out of Bohras (I mean all 100% of them) by dumping your shit for 14 years on self-hating Bohras who frequent this forum ?
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:49 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Humsafar, I like your response and, if the majority of participants here agree with you and anajmi here then this site is no different from many Wahabi sites whose focus is to attack all Shia, and not just Bohras and term them kafirs. I do not expect swelling in participation from among Bohras on th...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:05 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Bohras don’t hate being bohras, but hate the compulsions which are aggressively drilled down through systematic coercion and intimidation. Majority of bohras; either don’t know the real bohra beleifs or don’t care to know , as they are happy with social framework and fence they find their affiliati...
- Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:19 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: New Rules..!!
- Replies: 363
- Views: 99880
Re: New Rules..!!
Actually Allah does not have 99 names but has 99 attributes. ayat 7:180 وَلِلَّهِ الْأَسْمَاءُ الْحُسْنَىٰ فَادْعُوهُ بِهَا ۖ وَذَرُوا الَّذِينَ يُلْحِدُونَ فِي أَسْمَائِهِ ۚ سَيُجْزَوْنَ مَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ TRANSLATION: To Allah belong the Best Names , so supplicate Him by them, and abandon th...
- Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:55 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Most Bohras who come on this forum and choose to speak up are not against Bohra beliefs. lakum deenokum waleya deen applies to the deen of muslims (Islam) and kafirs. It is a part of Surah Kafiroon. I am a follower of Islam and you are a follower of something called Dawoodi Bohra faith which revolv...
- Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:01 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
maethist, as i see it, your only grouse against this forum is that allows non-bohra shia haters and by extension - bohra ideology haters - to come here and post. well, aren't you too a non-bohra now? you were a bohra once but left, disgusted with all the corruption, nepotism, tyranny and kufr, but ...
- Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:44 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
. But since people like matheist, Adam et al cannot defend and justify this corrupt system the best thing they can do is go on the offensive, and attack the victims. ........ The first step is call them "self-hating Bohras". I do not share Adam's or Bohra beliefs in general. And I am agai...
- Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:18 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: The hidden Imam
So if you go to warn a Shia of dire consequences in the hereafter of worshiping Imam and he says thanks but politely tells you that he is not interested, would you let him alone without abusing him with words like Kafir and Mushrik like you have been doing to me? Or are you going to insist on earnin...
- Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
If there is a jealous God, he will punish Bohras for creating partners with Him in the hereafter. Yes, and it is my job to warn them about it. You apparently, do not care if they are punished. I do. If there is a jealous God, he will punish Bohras for creating partners with Him in the hereafter. In...
- Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:58 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
I think you will get far more participation if you curtail the Wahabis and also the outright attacks on Duat Kiraam RA. I've heard many people call this a 'dushmano ni site', which it clearly is not. I have been reviewing the reception that participants of this forum have afforded Adam, a person kn...
- Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:46 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: In defence of the Silent Majority
- Replies: 130
- Views: 26965
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Let us complete the calculation. Out of 3441, there are about 50 active participants. As a percentage of 140,000 with internet access, that is 0.36%.
Target for this site should aim at 700,000 adult Bohras. The active participation then is 0.007% of target Bohra population.
Target for this site should aim at 700,000 adult Bohras. The active participation then is 0.007% of target Bohra population.
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:49 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Al Aleem, Al Rasheed anajmi, If you do not want to call Bohras Muslims that is fine with me. If Bohras want to call themselves Muslims, that is also fine with me. You have a copyright on the word Muslim? I do not care and do not mind if they call their Imam or Dai God. That is their affair and they ...
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:08 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
I said that the Bohra belief in Hidden Imam is akin to a Muslim's belief in angels. Apparently, and unwittingly I might add, you are implying that bohras are not muslims. Unfortunately for you, bohras believe in angels as well. They just believe in other stuff which is not a part of the religion of...
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:42 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
A subjective reality for Prophet Muhammad and previous Prophets reported in scripture.SBM wrote:So what would you call Jibrel, a hidden Imam or an Angel?
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:31 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
If you do not believe in any of these issues then you can not be a Dawoodi Bohra since you have to believe in Imam in Purdah and Dai talking to Imam regarding NUSS. In one of my very first posts, I said that the Bohra belief in Hidden Imam is akin to a Muslim's belief in angels. Both are myths to g...
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:16 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
If you do not believe in any of these issues then you can not be a Dawoodi Bohra since you have to believe in Imam in Purdah and Dai talking to Imam regarding NUSS. What kind of Dawoodi Bohra are you? First you tell us that we are self hating Bohras while you do not believe in the basic concept of ...
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:36 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
I took issue with Mr Insaf's article on two points. One, because he used the word 'proof' in response to vaguely defined surveys And you have NO issues with SMS having a Hindu come and testify about the NUSS thru his dreams. You have no problem when SMS said he spoke to his brother Huzefa who was i...
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:00 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
Let me be clear. I do not know and do not agree or disagree that the majority of Bohras suffer silently owing to fear. I took issue with Mr Insaf's article on two points. One, because he used the word 'proof' in response to vaguely defined surveys. Two, more important, I was challenging his assertio...
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:37 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
This was indeed pointed out by Adam, an erstwhile participant on this board. I am sure you will be able to point to the thread where Adam pointed this out. Please let us know. Thanks. It is right there on the first page of the thread where you valiantly sparred with me and displayed your full-front...
- Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:19 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: The hidden Imam
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6719
Re: In defence of the Silent Majority
That is true of all who attend functions but dislike being there. And that would be 95% of the Abde Bohras :mrgreen: Abdes like being Abdes. Therefore, by definition, they are not self-hating Bohras. Yet I will look out for you defending your religion, including ritual And how do you plan to do tha...