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by Muslim First
Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:46 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

And imagine Munira lines up behind two dies who are still fighting about who is representing Imam? What are two "dies"?
Dai Muffadal and his uncle
by Muslim First
Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:41 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

Imam in 17:71 is used for book of deeds. يَوْمَ نَدْعُو كُلَّ أُنَاسٍ بِإِمَامِهِمْ ۖ فَمَنْ أُوتِيَ كِتَابَهُ بِيَمِينِهِ فَأُولَٰئِكَ يَقْرَءُونَ كِتَابَهُمْ وَلَا يُظْلَمُونَ فَتِيلًا فَتِيلًا Abdullah Yusuf Ali: One day We shall call together all human beings with their (respective) Imams: thos...
by Muslim First
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:09 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

The Quran Challenge This is an open challenge for the Shia to give Quranic verses which outline and justify the Shia concept of Imamah. Can the Shia produce even a single verse outlining Imamah, without any additions to the translation, without parenthetical insertions to the translation, without Ha...
by Muslim First
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:03 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

Crux of the Sunni/Shia Divide The center of the debate between the Ahlus Sunnah and Shia revolves around the issue of Imamah (i.e. Aimmatal Masoomeen). The importance of Imamah is so great that the Shia Ulema consider those who reject Imamah to be Kaffir. Likewise, the Sunni Ulema consider those who...
by Muslim First
Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:20 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

tasneempati wrote:Munira Ben
Bohras ( Ismailis) and Ithna'Asheris are cousins. We are from the family of Ahle-Bayt and Imam Zafar Sadiq A.S. is father for both lines of Imam's. Let us respect each other. All Shia's are brotherly. 1,2,3 were outsiders.
That is not answer

She is asking Haq?
by Muslim First
Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:17 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

21:73 [Pickthal 21:72] And We bestowed upon him Isaac, and Jacob as a grandson. Each of them We made righteous. [Pickthal 21:73] And We made them chiefs who guide by Our command, and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds and the right establishment of worship and the giving of alms, and they w...
by Muslim First
Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:02 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

[Pickthal 17:71] On the day when We shall summon all men with their record, whoso is given his book in his right hand - such will read their book and they will not be wronged a shred. Imam in 17:71 is used for book of deeds. Imagine javedh lines up behind twice divorced, Alcohol merchant, Horace br...
by Muslim First
Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:43 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

Before establishing Haq
We need to establish clear command in Quran for Imamate after Prophet saw
by Muslim First
Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:16 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?
Replies: 45
Views: 7988

Re: Ismaili or Ithna Asheri line of Imam - haq is with whom?

Before we go further Question for all Shias Show me a command in Quran telling us that there will be Imams after Prophets, NO Hadit no complted explainations and no refernce to wasis of previous Prophet. If Imamat was that importane Why not clear cut cpmmand? Salat, Hajj, Fast is there. even how to ...
by Muslim First
Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:12 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Shias and Sunnis

I guess Aga Khanis do not qualify to visit Mecca since they do not pray Salat and do not face Qibla You are back So where are my responses???? Contact Afridi. I bet he has no answers either. As regards your above statement, you are truly a retard. What is Salat? Salat is Du'a. There are 73 sects of...
by Muslim First
Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:23 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: One Mad Man Proclaimed himself as Caliph
Replies: 23
Views: 4902

Re: One Mad Man Proclaimed himself as Caliph

Qaradawi says declaration of caliphate void undermsharia
http://weaselzippers.us/192393-qaradawi ... er-sharia/
by Muslim First
Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:18 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Consideration of Alavi Bohra faith
Replies: 5
Views: 1888

Re: Consideration of Alavi Bohra faith

Canadian in Shiaism, you can only go to heaven through dai and/or Imam; and in sabaqs the mwalim says that in Jannat also there are eight layers/ranks- I remember the first two- Rasullah and his ahle bayt and no. 2- dai’s. Naturally we ordinary bohras are at the lowest/bottom end. So on earth we ar...
by Muslim First
Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:33 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Shias and Sunnis

javedh No non-Ismaili Muslim or otherwise can come to my Jamatkhana because they have not recognised my Imam, i.e. not given bayah to my Imam. Just the same way no non-Muslim is allowed in Mecca as they have not recited the Shahadah, although the Koran says otherwise. Don't ask me to explain, becau...
by Muslim First
Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:37 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Shias and Sunnis

Umreti, Not all Sunnis are wahabi or salafi. I have many Sunni friends who do not ascribe to either. Sunnis are Sunnis period. They are very respectable, good and intelligent people. In fact they are always eager to learn about different sects of Islam. A lot of my Sunni friends go to the Shia Mosq...
by Muslim First
Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:34 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hadith from Ahle Bayt prohibiting grave worship
Replies: 183
Views: 30736

Re: Hadith from Ahle Bayt prohibiting grave worship

javedhjuma Prove to me Ismailis curse in open and behind doors. We are the only Shia Muslims who teach in our Religious Curriculum about the contributions of the first three Caliphs. So kindly stop lumping us with others. Your problem with Ismailism is totally different. You just hate the Imam. You...
by Muslim First
Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:09 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Relation of 1, 2, 3 with Ahle bait

anajmi wrote:When I normally refer to an ayah, I try to post the location of the ayah. Most of the times, I even post the ayah itself. Would you mind doing the same? Can you give the surah name and ayah number of the ayahs you are referring to?
O boy
This will tongue tie Silvertongue
by Muslim First
Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:40 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Shias and Sunnis

Brother Ghulam, You always come out with the right stuff at the right moment. I do not like to attack any faith, but when my faith or my Imam are challenged, I cannot sit idle. I have a lot of Shia and Sunni friends but they never talk about religion because each one is secured in his belief. It is...
by Muslim First
Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:30 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Shias and Sunnis

King of SA is not leader of any Islamic Firqa
by Muslim First
Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:28 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Shias and Sunnis

javedhjuma As an Ismaili,follower of a Present Imam, I do not question anything about his life or his family‘s life , or his private life because I believe, whatever happens in his life is pre-ordained by Allah SWT, just the way the Prophets’lives were and we, as Muslims never question them. Murshi...
by Muslim First
Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:38 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Relation of 1, 2, 3 with Ahle bait

If Imam Hussain had to die to save Islam, then that would mean that if he had actually won the war and become khalifa, Islam would not have survived. correct?

Good question
What is answer, James and Co.?
by Muslim First
Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:35 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Relation of 1, 2, 3 with Ahle bait

He could've given instructions to Hussain on how to defeat Yazid and get victory which would've actually prevented the shia sunni split and the bloodshed that we see today!! If only the hypocrites had not gathered in Saqifa and cared about the burial of Prophet Mohammed SAW. If only the hypocrites ...
by Muslim First
Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:58 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hadith from Ahle Bayt prohibiting grave worship
Replies: 183
Views: 30736

Re: Hadith from Ahle Bayt prohibiting grave worship

@Zinger Never mind likes have answer for this We don't make fun of the Khalifa teachings or Aisha's service to Islam Zinger NO ONE MAKES FUN OF THEM, THEY ARE DISREGARDED. REASONS ARE ALREADY KNOWN TO ALL AND HISTORY RECORDS IT TOO Are you kidding buddy. Your mota Mulla did it on open mik and had to...
by Muslim First
Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:53 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Hadith from Ahle Bayt prohibiting grave worship
Replies: 183
Views: 30736

Re: Hadith from Ahle Bayt prohibiting grave worship

I think we should leave ismailis alone. muslims shouldn't fight against each other. In shah Allah When. Ismailis of all creed and Shia will stop cribbing about historical events of 1350 years ago, stop cursing in open and behind close doors. They will be left alone. You see Baha'is are largely left...
by Muslim First
Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:25 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: The lost moral of Islam’s divide
Replies: 0
Views: 612

The lost moral of Islam’s divide

From Hindu daily The lost moral of Islam’s divide Jun 21, 2014 12:41 AM , By Shajahan Madampat | 254 comments http://m.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/the-lost-moral-of-islams-divide/article6134190.ece/?maneref=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com With the exception of the Quran, there are no religious or histor...
by Muslim First
Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:15 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Relation of 1, 2, 3 with Ahle bait

More for Munira_RV Hadith In Sahih Bukhari, the Prophet specifically refers to Aisha as part of Ahlel Bayt: Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 316 Narrated Anas: A banquet of bread and meat was held on the occasion of the marriage of the Prophet to Zainab bint Jahsh. I was sent to invite the p...
by Muslim First
Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:08 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Relation of 1, 2, 3 with Ahle bait

If Munira_RV to lazy to read The Quran Refers to the Prophet’s Wives as Ahlel Bayt As Muslims, we believe in the absolute authority of the Quran. It is the highest source of legislation; in fact, it is the very speech of Allah. The Quran refers to the Prophet’s wives as the Ahlel Bayt. Allah Almight...
by Muslim First
Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:58 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Shias and Sunnis
Replies: 363
Views: 92104

Re: Relation of 1, 2, 3 with Ahle bait

For Munira's reading

Prophet’s Wives are Ahlel Bayt
http://web.archive.org/web/200908142323 ... bayt/wives

Prophet’s Daughters are Ahlel Bayt
http://web.archive.org/web/200907200746 ... /daughters
by Muslim First
Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:51 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: "Pakistan" No Country for Shias
Replies: 12
Views: 3501

Re: "Pakistan" No Country for Shias

Comment Next time ask yourself how are you contributing to this perpetual cycle of hatred before blaming others for all the blame Zinge response TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SITE FOR ONE. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE BOHRAS AND SHIAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS GRAVE AND IDOL WORHSIPPERS? ASK YOURSELF NOW WHO IS CONTRIBUTIN...
by Muslim First
Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:42 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Reverting to the Ummah: Who is the ‘Angry Muslim’ and Why
Replies: 0
Views: 460

Reverting to the Ummah: Who is the ‘Angry Muslim’ and Why

Reverting to the Ummah: Who is the ‘Angry Muslim’ and Why
Ramzy Baroud

http://www.islamicity.com/m/news_frame. ... ceID=78334
by Muslim First
Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:20 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: "Pakistan" No Country for Shias
Replies: 12
Views: 3501

Re: "Pakistan" No Country for Shias

We don't make fun of the Khalifa teachings or Aisha's service to Islam Zinger NO ONE MAKES FUN OF THEM, THEY ARE DISREGARDED. REASONS ARE ALREADY KNOWN TO ALL AND HISTORY RECORDS IT TOO Are you kidding buddy. Your mota Mulla did it on open mik and had to run away under police protection. Cursing 3+...