Dawoodi Bohra Forum

I'll be honest with you, I have absolutely no problem with your beliefs. None at all. And if you're right, you'll be rewarded. If you're wrong, there won't be much to lose either. So if your beliefs make you happy, then by all means, hold them. But when your faith starts to be expressed in ways like...

How do you know that the Quran is more valid than the Bible or the Tohra? not to mention the myriad of ancient beliefs people have held over the few thousand year old existence of mankind. Are all of them going to be laughed at as well? It funny that there are seven heavens. Heaven will be the size ...

Who are the those who have "attained faith" anyway? The Sunnis? The Shias? The Wahabis? The Muffaddalis? The Qutbis? The Alavis? The Agha Khanis? It seems like, when all is said and done, it will be a few thousand (whoever they may be) laughing at the billions on Judgement day, because the...

Touche, God. Touche.

Not sure what he's supposed to do? He's God! Someone who could put something as grand as the universe together can surely handle a gang of lowly brigands with his pinky! Instead of letting them accumulate wealth and live like kings, he could destroy them, run them into the ground. If he was omnipote...

M Taha- Thanks for the offer, it's well appreciated, but my mind on this matter was made up a long time ago. If my stance concerning religion ends up being wrong, ask God if you can laugh at me before I'm put down-- I'll deeply regret not taking you up on the offer.

Yes, but many others on this forum have posted an ayat from the Quran stating that Allah says that the Quran is lucid (clear, unambiguous). So if Allah says he is your provider, then why isn't he providing for these Bohras? Unless, of course, he is as cruel as the Quran and the Testaments describe h...

Biradar- I commend you for your statements to several of the people who need help ridding themselves of the Kothar administration(s). However, one thing nags at me. You stated above that people can't just wait for Allah to come and help them. If Allah is merciful and loving, then why the hell would'...

We all have the same DNA, we're all related, all organisms. This line started billions of years ago. Why does descent even matter for a dai, anyway? What does it matter who your relatives are if you can't keep the community running well?

KQ is not a liberal. His policies are just more liberal than MS's ultra-conservative policy. It's a Moderate Conservative and a Tea Party. He's keeping the same general beliefs, and he won't agree to any of the propositions by the Ismaili Scholars in the Manifesto published on this website. I'd put...

Ha, how is the administration going to satisfy its greed if they're turning kids into tiffin ferries? It's funny, as a few of you have expressed above, you'd think that they'd promote education and vocation for women to have more fish to catch in the future

Okay, I didn't read the aya in its full context. But the point is that the Quran does NOT promote an equality of sexes. Men are clearly placed on a higher pedestal than women, no matter how you interpret the aya. I mean, come on. I've seen people post an aya that declares the lucidity of the Quran, ...

Hey Max, some advice: You're sounding more idiotic with every successive post you publish on this forum. You're an excellent example of why Muffaddal Saifuddin's side of the argument has no credibility on this forum. Every post in his "defense" reeks of ultimate stupidity and ignorance. I ...

You know what's even more pathetic than his views on women? It's the fact that women are meant to be subjugated in Islam. I know there have been numerous debates on this issue from all types of muslims, but the fact is that the Quran clearly places men on a higher pedestal than women. The truth hurt...

Honestly, if there are any of you here who work in any universities or have friends in academia (or have the money to consult with an expert), then I think everyone would be curious to know the result of an analysis of this letter.

This letter, my friends, is the perfect place for the science that many of you have ridiculed can step in. There are many examples of SMB's handwriting, yes? So an expert would be able to compare the handwritings of SMB's former writings and this one. If they match, then it probably settles the issu...

Lukman... You're the reason that no one takes any of you abdes seriously anymore. Have you even put any thought into this issue, or are you simply doing what your subservient mind has been told my qjb? You're taking the easy path, just listen to what people feed to you instead of thinking for yourse...

I'm impressed that you've acknowledged the religion is a vice, Biradar. You've taken the next step. Most religions fit your description; conservative, controlling, autocratic, etc, etc. If you hold these sentiments, may I ask why you still believe in any of the "a'ala ilm" that's written i...

Biradar, I'm pretty well versed in the histories concerning Hitler and Stalin, thank you very much. When one makes such a comparison, it doesn't mean to imply that these dai's are LITERALLY going to do what Hitler and Stalin did.

The comparison is meant to associate evil with evil.

DB_Londoner:

When I said that I'd wait for someone else to explain, I was waiting for Humsafar's message. You've been warned by multiple people now, not just the crazy godless moron.

You people are choosing between Hitler and Stalin.

seriousnessisamess- Right on the mark man. Perfect. Don't do what they tell you. Embrace your individuality. Kill the God that plagues your head. Once you cure that plague, these people won't be able to hurt you any longer. That should be their greatest fear; that their slaves will eventually learn ...

Yep, DB-Londoner, you got me. I believe that God made this world, and I believe that he's merciful and benevolent. It's not like he orders his prophets to kill their children or anything. Oh and he didn't drown thousands of people in a biblical flood thousands of years ago. I am an atheist, and I am...

I'm assuming that no one has copies of that phone call anymore... that was years ago. What happened to Taizoon bs? Is he still around? Was his zahirbatin thing legitimate or not? It seems like the campaign (if even genuine) fizzled out rather quickly.

I'll read that. When you go to Mumbai, take these concerns to him.

Perhaps he has his agents scanning this website to determine the polarization of the reformist community. If so, perhaps he could bring these inquiries before mazun sahib. Let him prove that he will be accountable for the errors that have taken place over the last few decades. Does this sound irrati...

You can even ask him if he would post the answers to those questions on his website, he can answer them in video form. From him, not his kids or his secretary or whoever types those articles. Right from his mouth, all of the questions that question his ability to lead the community down the right pa...

I think I have a way for you to see how real the mazun's promises of change are. Sikander, you say that you intend to meet the mazun in India? Go to him quickly, while his base is still relatively small. Then bring these concerns to him. Ask him why he waited tip when he did to announce his dai-ship...

I don't know what zahir batin is, but no such website still exists. With the financial resources he has, and the children in high up places he has, he could have done better than a dead website and some failed small institutes. If the instates were successful, the dai probably would have taken credi...

If mazun really cared about the welfare of the community, he would have made his damn website a decade ago, not at the best moment to make a power grab. Listen, I'm not saying that mazun isn't going to keep his promises. He might. But based on how he's lived his life so far, I have a hard time belie...