Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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objectiveobserver53
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:35 am

I think you are mistaken.

zinger
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:45 am

objectiveobserver53 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:35 am I think you are mistaken.
Well, if i am, then virus has mutated to a slightly higher level of intelligence, which is not the case with him/her/it.

he/she/it follows a pattern which i can identify now, which is why i really do think Abde53 isnt the virus..

if Abde53 is the virus, then i shall pass on the crown to you my friend :D

SBM
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:58 pm

How do you define a Virus on this forum???

juzer esmail
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by juzer esmail » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:38 am

Salaam bhaiyo aap sagla ye Corning hospital london video clip joi hase ehma dawat Na kasre ali na sahebo ye Nass confirm logo karse ehmate banawi hati nahito mumin nahi mane hawe ek navu trailor and main pic tayyar dubbing thaichuku che Dumus maa chela three months maa ah movie Na directors che lead maa Ali Kader Na bairo ane ehna bhaiyo ane dikrao beautiful script che ah covid 19 Na time ma baniche title che whos 54 so be ready bhaiyo ahlogo eh spl YN ni toli ye to phd kariche ah field maa suspence thriller che await the day date time bhaiyo hakikat tiware khabar parse sachu kon shukran.

objectiveobserver53
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:12 pm

SBM wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:58 pm How do you define a Virus on this forum???
It’s not “a” virus, it’s “the” virus. Mummy’s boy, aka Redbox, aka Shabab aka abde53.....

He is some sort of a hard core fundamentalist. Supports FGM and MS madrassahs and often writes in support of MS and also calls him some very bad names. He also posts against and for FD. He is to Bohras what Russian bots are to US politics. Disrupts meaningful dialog and creates chaos.

juzer esmail
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by juzer esmail » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:48 am

Salaams.
Dahod ma je 5 logo ye suicide karyu , vo Uncle Aunty sathe vat thai
still jamaat taraf thi even thali pan free ma aapva ma avti nathi emne

paisa leva to ghar ghar aave che ane apva ma khbr nai kya muh chhupavi le che...

Moula to keh che k har ghar ma free ma thali aapo ane yaha ek evi Family che ehne pan free ma aapva ma nathi avti 🧐🧐

juzer esmail
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by juzer esmail » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:09 am

SRI LANKA TIMES 2O TH SEPTEMBER 2020
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Shabab
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by Shabab » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:07 am

je Insaan duniya maa momeenin ne potani car paase aawa nathi deto, e insaan akhirat maa hath pakadwana dawa kare che.

baki saglu tame samjho cho saglaa maa dimaag che.

got this SMS from BadriMahal



કૉવીડ-19 મહામારી દરમિયાન ગવમેટ ના માગૃદશન ને અનુસરીને, હુઝુરેઆલાત.ઉ.શ. અને મુમેનીન ના સ્વાસથ ને ધયાન રાખીને કોઈએ પણ હૂઝૂરેઆલી ત.ઉ.શ. ની ગાડી પાસે આવવુ નહી.
=અલવઝારતૂસ સૈફીયાહ-મુબઈ=

Shabab
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by Shabab » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:24 pm

Looks like Mola Ali is talking about 2020





Somebody requested Imam Ali to advise him how to lead a useful and sober life. Imam Ali thereupon advised him thus:
" Do not be among those people who want to gain good returns without working hard for them; who have long hopes and keep on postponing repentance and penance, who talk like pious persons but run after vicious pleasures. Do not be among those who are not satisfied if they get more in life and are not content if their lot in life's pleasures is less(they are never satisfied); Who never thank Allah for what they get and keep on constantly demanding increase in what is left with them; Who advise others to such good deeds that they themselves refrain from; Who appreciate good people but do not follow their ways of life; Who hate bad and vicious people but follow their ways of life; who on account of their excessive sins hate death but do not giveup the sinful ways of life; Who if fallen ill, repent their ways of life and on regaining their health fearlessly readopt the same frivolous ways; Who get despondent and lose all hopes, but on gaining health, become arrogant and careless; Who, if faced with misfortunes, dangers or afflictions, turn to Allah and keep on beseeching Him for relief and when relieved or favoured with comfort and ease they are deceived by the comfortable conditions they found themselves in and forget Allah and forsake prayers; Whose minds are allured by day dreams and forlorn hopes and who abhor to face realities of life;who fear for others the enormous repercussions of vices and sins but for their own deeds expect very high rewards or very light disciplinary actions. Riches make such people arrogant, rebellious and wicked, and poverty makes them despondent and lethargic. If they have to work, they work lazily and if they put up a demand they do it stubbornly. Under the influence of inordinate cravings, they commit sins in quick succession and keep on postponing repentance. Calamities and adversities make them give up the distinguished characteristics of muslims(patience, hope in future and work for improvement of circumstances). They advise people with narrations of events and facts but do not take any lesson from them. They are good at preachings but bad at practice; therefore, they always talk of lofty deeds but their actions belie their words. They are keen to acquire temporal pleasures but are careless, and slow to achieve permanent(Divine) benefits. They think good for themselves the things which are actually injurious to them and regard harmful the things which really benefit them. They are afraid of death but waste their time and do not resort to good deeds, before death overtakes them,They consider vices which they regard as enormous sin for others as minor shortcomings for themselves. Similarly, they attach great importance to their obedience to the orders of Allah and belittle similar actions in others; Therefore, they often criticize others and speak very highly of their own deeds. They are happy to spend their time in society of rich persons, wasting it in luxuries and vices, but are averse to employing it for useful purposes in company of the poor and pious people. They are quick and free to pass verdicts against others but they never pass a verdict against their own vicious deeds. They force others to obey them but they never obey Allah. They collect their dues carefully but never pay the dues they owe. They are not afraid of Allah but fear powerful men"

juzer esmail
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by juzer esmail » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:35 am

આજના મોમીનની મૂંઝવણ!!!

છેલ્લા 6 માસથી મૌલા પરદાનસીન છે!!! મૌલાના આ કે તે શહેર કે મઝાર ખાતે પધારવાનાં  કે પધારી જવાનાં એવાં ન્યૂઝ, ફોટા, કે વિડિઓ અબ્દેસપોસ્ટ કરે છે; પણ આ બધામાં મિ. ઇન્ડિયાની માફક મૌલા ઈન્વિઝિબલ જ રહે છે!!!  એ સંજોગોમાં અફવાઓનું બજાર ગરમી પકડે એ સ્વભાવિક છે!!! 

એક ચર્ચા એવી પણ ચાલે છે કે, અબજો રૂપિયાનું મૂલ્ય ધરાવતી દાવત પર કબ્જો ધરાવવાની મૌલાનાનાં ખાનદાનમાં સ્પર્ધા શરુ થઇ છે!!! 

કોમની કમનસીબી પણ કેવી છે કે જે ખાનદાને ત્રણ પેઢીમાં જાતે 1 રૂપિયો પણ પોતાની મહેનતથી કમાયો નથી; એમ છતાં મોમીનોની ખૂન પસીનાની કમાણીમાંથી અસ્તિત્વમાં આવેલી દુનિયાભરની કોમની મિલ્કતો જાણે એમનાં બાપદાદાનો વારસો હોય એ રીતે ભાયુભાગ પાડી રહયાની ચર્ચા છે!!!

અફવા હકીકત બને તો દેશ-વિદેશનાં મોમીનો પર શું અસર પડે એની ચર્ચા, કોરોના અને મોદીજીનાં સંયુક્ત પ્રયાસોથી કામધંધા વગરનાં નવરાં પડેલાં બે મોમીનો વચ્ચેનાં સંવાદઃ 

સિરાજભાઈ: તાહેરભાઈ, અત્યારે તો દાવત કેન્દ્રિત છે, એક જ દાઈ છે તો એક જ ITS  પર મોમીન દુનિયાભરમાં અબ્દે તરીકે માન્ય કરાવી શકે છે, પણ ધારોકે, દાવતનાં અનેક ભાગલાં પડે  જેમ કે, કોઈ શહેજાદા પોતાને યુરોપ, અમેરિકા અને કેનેડાનાં દાઈ ડિક્લેર કરે;

 કોઈ શાહજાદા પોતાને યમન,કરબલા તેમજ અરબ કન્ટ્રીસ અને પાકિસ્તાનનાં દાઈ ડિક્લેર કરે; 

એજ પ્રમાણે  કોઈ શાહજાદા પોતાને શ્રીલંકા અને આફ્રિકાનાં દાઈ મનાવે!

   સૌથી વધુ મોમીનો ભારતમાં છે તો ભારતમાં દર બે-ત્રણ સ્ટેટ દીઠ એક એક દાઈ કબ્જો જમાવે એ સંજોગોમાં મોમીનોનું સ્ટેટસ શું?

 ગુજરાતનાં મોમીનો પાસે ગુજરાતનાં દાઈનુ ITS  હોય અને એ મોમીન બુરહાનપુર- મધ્યપ્રદેશ જાય ત્યારે ત્યાંના દાઈ આ ITS માન્ય રાખે?  

તાહેરભાઈ: તમારી વાત ગંભીર વિચાર માંગી લે છે. આઝાદી પહેલાં દેશમાં 550 કરતાં વધુ રજવાડાઓ હતાં. એમનાં ચલણ એટલે કે સિક્કા અલગ હતા. દરેક રાજ્યની હદમાં એમની માલિકીની ટ્રેન ચાલતી. પણ એકબીજા રાજ્ય એક્બીજાનાં ટ્રેન-ટ્રેકનો ઉપયોગ કરી સકતા!  આવો કોઈ વ્યવહારુ અમલ શોધવો પડે!!!

સિરાજભાઈ: એક દાઈનાં અધિકાર વિસ્તારની દિકરી બીજા દાઈના અધિકાર વિસ્તારમાં શાદી કરીને જાય ત્યારે કે કોઈ ફેમિલીનો  વેપાર-ધંધા યા નોકરી સબબ અધિકાર વિસ્તાર ચેન્જ થાય તો નવાં દાઈને મિસાક આપવો પડે?


તાહેરભાઈ: મુદ્દો વિચારવાં જેવો પણ કોઠારીઓં સુધી પહોંચાડવા જેવો નહિ, એમને તો આવકનું એક નવું સાધન મળી જાય!!!

સિરાજભાઈ: છેલ્લો સવાલ, એક જ ઘરમાં બે-ચાર સભ્યો અલગ અલગ દાઈને માનતાં હોય તો એઓ કયા મોમીન તરીકે ઓળખાય?  નજમી, કાયેદ કે માલેક? 

તાહેરભાઈ: ખિચડી વહોરા!!!

SBM
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:53 pm

Qadir wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:18 pm And i think the rightful dai is one who forgets his personal problems and pains to uphold deen. SMS did that last year in colombo ashara even after suffering a fall.

Now if he thought that this year mumineen should take barakaat of three dai's waaz then it's his call to make.
Well it rightful dai forgets his problems and pains to uphon deen-- WHERE IS HE HIDDING? THE MUMINEEN AKA ABDES/AMTES ARE COMMITTING SUICIDE DUE TO ECONOMIC HARDSHIP BUT THE RIGHTFUL DAI IS NO WHERE TO BEE SEEN.. WHY IS HE HIDDING?

Qadir
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by Qadir » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:28 am

SBM wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:53 pm
Qadir wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:18 pm And i think the rightful dai is one who forgets his personal problems and pains to uphold deen. SMS did that last year in colombo ashara even after suffering a fall.

Now if he thought that this year mumineen should take barakaat of three dai's waaz then it's his call to make.
Well it rightful dai forgets his problems and pains to uphon deen-- WHERE IS HE HIDDING? THE MUMINEEN AKA ABDES/AMTES ARE COMMITTING SUICIDE DUE TO ECONOMIC HARDSHIP BUT THE RIGHTFUL DAI IS NO WHERE TO BEE SEEN.. WHY IS HE HIDDING?
So what do you want him to do? Come out in public so thousands will gather during a pandemic? Or you want him to go on youtube or twitter for the whole world to see him? He isn't hiding, everyone who cares about his safety and health are happy to know that Moula is all well in Khandala right now. He went for ziarat in Surat, Hasanfeer and Galiyakot in the last couple of weeks. There were plans for Sri Lanka but for now they are on hold as far as i know.