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SBM
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For Adam

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:01 pm

Whenever new schemes are started there are always logic behind it.ar
STS started Burhani Medical Clinic to provide free medical care to Poor Bohras (even thought it did not help but hurt many sick, personal experience )
STS started Saifee Ambulance to have an Ambulance services to Bohras
SMB during his earlier years started many projects which were forward looking like FAILED Saifee Technical High School, to provide technical education to Bohras, a noble cause but FAILED one
He started Saifee Hospital, a project to benefit Bohras ( unfortunately being misused by Kothari Goons)
With the above points in mind , please explain the logic of ROTI MANI by SMS.
While his father and grand father promoted educating the community, what is HIKKMAT of asking women and now men and children to learn ROTI MAKING
what is Hikkmat behind this project, may be if you can explain of course with the Raza of Kothari Masters, it may help many in the community.
I only seek the HIKKMAT of this Barkati Roti Project of SMS.
Also can you point any educational project initiated by SMS, any remarkable work done by SMS

think
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Re: For Adam

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Unread post by think » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:18 pm

bohri are by creed are a bunch of traders. sasta lo mehnga becho aur hisaab kitaab ke do chopri rakho. most of the kids just sit in their dad's dukaan. Have also seen some rich kids come to the u.s. for further studies, but in the end they end up going back home to India or Pakistan and sit at their dads dukaan.

DisillusionedDB
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Re: For Adam

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:17 am

SBM wrote:Whenever new schemes are started there are always logic behind it.ar
With the above points in mind , please explain the logic of ROTI MANI by SMS.
While his father and grand father promoted educating the community, what is HIKKMAT of asking women and now men and children to learn ROTI MAKING
what is Hikkmat behind this project,
SBM bhai, the logic is to convert all bohras to bhatiyaras because, eventually, as everyone knows, after all the countless majlises in a year, there is always fakhir jaman. Isn't that what our community been reduced to ? Attend majlis, urus, darees, shitabis, ashara days, ramzan followed by fakhir jamans and everyone goes home satiated with a full stomach and a contented state of mind that they have accomplished some highly religious activity and jannat is a foregone conclusion.
By the way, the 2 words "bohras and bhatiyaras" rhyme well too. That is a hikmat in itself :wink:

AmmarHussaini
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Re: For Adam

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Unread post by AmmarHussaini » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:07 am

actually mufaddal is following footstep of his grandfather TS,

TS use to say "jiware bhi koi naa thi kai kaam karawu hoi to ehne jamado"

feed them so they may remain loyal, and this tactic really worked on stupid abdes, theey started feeding them on every occasion and abdes believed these food is coming from maula but in reality abdes were paying heavy price for these jamans.

they are using food to control people and addict them to these food so they can never think to go away.

AmmarHussaini
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Re: For Adam

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Unread post by AmmarHussaini » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:09 am

from the day you will stop attending these jaman you will start questioning every thing, because now your motive is spirituality and not worldly food.

seeker110
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Re: For Adam

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Unread post by seeker110 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:18 am

Food is the poison they use. Works on ALSOO folks.

Smart
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Re: For Adam

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Unread post by Smart » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:07 am

Bhai SBM,
Asking for logic from Abdes is like asking to go to Jannat alive. Impossible!
However, one more aspect, out of your post I would like to highlight. All these projects by STS, SMB and now SMS are big flop shows, including business ventures like Asian Electronics and Asian Dehydrates. This fact is interesting, because all abdes, approach these "S"s for raza to start any new venture. I don't understand how these massive failures can guide the abdes to succeed? They are incapable / incompetent to handle their own affairs and pretend to advise others.

As I have mentioned logic with them doesn't work. You have to be a gullible abde to do anything they say.