i personally feel that maethist completely lost the plot here. he started off with his single point agenda of severe objections to 'non-bohras', 'shia haters' and 'self-hating bohras' coming here and ridiculing bohra beliefs: their principal articles of faith, such as valayat and by extension - the dai and unquestioned loyalty to dai, the exemplary lives and actions of past dai duats, the core belief in an imam being constantly present and available on this earth to guide his flock, whether physically present like the aga khan or hidden as in bohra faith, with the dai having the sole and unchallenged rights to represent this 'hidden' imam and 'royally' screw his abdes as he sees fit in the divine order of things.
but soon maethist's dialogue unravelled. he quickly declared himself an ex-bohra and professed atheist. then he went on to say that he has no objections to present day abde bohras being staunch kafirs and mushriqs with the right to enjoy their 'kafirness and shirk' in peace and in quiet enjoyment as per their human rights sanctioned to them by the US constitution. he even agreed that present day abde bohras are in fact, kafirs and mushriqs, but only 'real, non-self-hating bohras' have a right to say so, people of the likes of anajmi et al, who are shia-hating wahabis cannot enjoy that luxury, neither can reformists concur with him nor offer tacit support for such radical views.
so basically, calling present day abde bohras under the able leadership of their charlatan dai any unsavory names is the prerogative of... whom??? only abde bohras themselves. but then they immediately become 'self-hater bohras'....! this is meathist's logic, not mine, which brings us back full circle to... what the hell is the real issue?? no matter how maethist disguises his circular logic, it is transparently clear he has a problem only with anajmi, who in his opinion, is a rabid sunni wahabi, shia hater, islamic bigot, religious extremist, fanatic and despicable creature who should be put down post haste for this forum to regain its sanity and credentials as a pristine 'dawoodi bohra' site.
it looks like the river which started out in full flow, soon lost its way after meandering in the parched desert and dried up into sorry puddles, until meathist threw in the towel and declared it a no-contest.
now to come to this argument that abde bohras are quite happy and content enjoying their 'club', socialising and revelling in their 'closeness' without fear, is a self-defeating one. if they were so happy, making merry and considering themselves so lucky, to be so privileged and exclusive, then why 8 times out of 10, i hear them bitterly complaining about the excessive fees, insults, high handedness and tyranny of sundry officials such as the amil, committee members and ayaans of the jamaat, the tensions they suffer when they have to obtain raza and the run-around and hard times they are subjected to? the unilateral and dictatorial behaviour of everyone who lords it over them? perhaps bohras have so gotten used to this life of oppression and taken it into their stride that they actually pretend that this bullshit is only limited to the lower level satraps, their aqa and mola is as pure as the driven snow, the classical chalta hai attitude of the 'royally screwed'. of course this whole situation does not touch upon the injustice and mutation of their deen by the cunning haramkhors. that is a discussion which is beyond the comprehension and interest of the abde masses. their lives revolve around petty issues and complaints, arey jaman lav bhai, arey salaam ocho karo, arey mane pachvare na saf kem jagya mali, arey mane moharram ma niyaz nu sharaf na aapu, gai kale dabbo bekar hato, etc etc.
if this is acceptable to the vast majority of bohras, then this whole discussion should be taken off the air. let them go to hell should be the stock response. but then somewhere, somehow, deep in the darkest recesses of one's heart and conscience are stirrings of hope, hope that someone, some lost, disgruntled soul will maybe see the light. that is why we persist. that is why i came back and many others keep raising their feeble voices against injustice, oppression, tyranny and deception. to pretend that it is making some huge dent in the kothari coffers would be a delusion, but i personally have witnessed atleast a dozen abdes slowly turning around and deserting this dastardly cult because of this forum.
shouldn't that constitute atleast some semblance of victory? to expect a revolution to happen overnight is foolish and unrealistic, but small victories, even one abde whose spirit is awakened, is a great cause of celebration. that one person will surely influence ten others and those x ten others each. the battle is hard and tough but labor and persist we must. i too have left this cult, but my bohrapanu has not left me. its a david and goliath fight. the monster will eventually die a slow and painful death inflicted by a thousand cuts. it is we who are raining them on their corpulent corpus (couldnt resist that one).