Ashara 1436 Surat

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think
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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by think » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:54 pm

do not be scared by these well chosen words of muffy" aapso ke nahi' apso ke nahi". it is a ploy to make you commit. You do not need kothar to do good for your brother. no need for karze hassana because it is not what it means. It is to give more free money to the sethias and the fat tummy sheikhs for their bussiness so the kothar can ask them for ziafat, more wajebaats etc. this karze hassana is not for the needy. If a common mumin requests for this money the first question the kothar will ask you is to surrender an equal amount of gold. now how stupid is that.
by kothar I refer to all those two timer goondas of your jamaat committe, the amil and al lhis chamchaas.

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:30 pm

Admin,

Please change the title of thread to Ashara 1436 Surat.

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:35 pm

The tanzeem committees in Surat are calling every bohra household in their respective areas to come to the devri and sign on the register thereby confirming their presence for Muffy's Mohurrum vayez, it is like the old school days when there was an attendance call before the beginning of classes.... Present Sir ! Absent Sir !

The Marketing team of Muffy wants to collect the data to show to the world...... Mola ni vayez Mubarak ma etla logo aaya !! It is also another way of showing his strength in the court cases filed against him.

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by think » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:47 pm

and this attendance of school boys can only be done in surat where he can muddle the numbers.

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:49 pm

Bohras in Surat are being summoned by the Amil for donating in 'Ikram fund' which is one of the many avenues used for financing the current Mohurrum tamasha. The wealthy guys are paying anywhere between Rs.3 to 5 lakhs. Qaid Johar is expected to visit Surat tomorrow and announce Qarz-e-Hasanah for Bohras to finance the said fund. It is another matter that the said Tamasha is OVERLY financed by the local Bohras and rich NRI's who sponsor every jaman for 10 consecutive days and it is estimated that Muffy will make around Rs.500 crores during this solemn month of Mohurrum. The number of Ziyafats, Hadiyats, Mafsusiyats etc. which starts immediately after Ashura will be mind boggling over and above the 'Fakhir Rakams' taken from the rich NRI Bohras in the name of Imam Hussain a.s.

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:16 pm

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by JC » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:33 pm

Modi Kapray Bhee UTAR Lay Ga ............ wait and see!!

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:42 pm

Anajmi Bhai can confirm but Karz hasana as prescribed in the Quran cannot be used for Surat Muharram organisation .

Bohras are incorrectly applying the karz hasana concept

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:01 pm

The bohra Dai has completed corrupted the meaning of Karze Hasana. Karze Hasana does not get collected. It is only distributed. To bohras that won't make any sense. Karze Hasana as per the Quran is a loan that you give to God. What that means is that you spend the money in the way of Allah and then Allah will pay you back. So for example, if I were to give you $1000 in the name of karze hasana, I should not expect it back from you. It is a loan to Allah. Only Allah is responsible for paying it back to me either here or in the hereafter. The kothari goons collect karze hasana from bohras and then give it to others only with collateral wanting it to be returned. This isn't karze hasana. Like everything else, the bohras have corrupted this beautiful piece of the Quran as well.

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ashura in surat

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:30 am

Muffadal saiffudin about to arrive at surat for ashura , At zaini bungalow Nanpura large stage has been prepared for his welcome ceremony .MOst shocking this is going on at this moment is BAND BAJA.
they are playing all Hindi movie songs Battamiz dil , tu ne mari entryia ... and so on .. and people are very happy
and within one hour will be MATAM .

WEL COME muffadal saiffudin to Surat.

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by Truth-Prevails » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:28 am

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:42 am

He gets more ridiculous every day.

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:52 am

SMS is getting more interesting everyday ! it is amazing to see how this Kothari thugs have mutated the whole shia doctrines to their advantage. SMS and his abdes are both living in blind faith and glory.

Other day, I was having some guest at home, and one of the proud mother asked his kid (6 years old) to narrate the Imam-hussein-shahadat, the kid obliged and parroted the shahdat routine of 12 ragra - boothu khanjer – dua no sajdo-maathu judu kari didu” and the crowd was smiling and praising the kid over his articulate cute speech. Amidst these they did not realize, kid is too young to understand such an act of sacrifice as well as the effect of beheading insensitized in psyche of the child.

These Kothari thugs have drowned Islamic principles and inspiring events from Islamic history to their such utter greed and power. Only cunning atheist can resort to such deception without fear or love for GOD.

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:29 am

if u look closely on the design on the buggy in centre lower.
there r 2 horse on the sides.
but if u look at the whole picture abstractly from a distance, it resembles ganpati.
just a thought

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by MMH » Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:36 am

humanbeing wrote:SMS is getting more interesting everyday ! it is amazing to see how this Kothari thugs have mutated the whole shia doctrines to their advantage. SMS and his abdes are both living in blind faith and glory.

Other day, I was having some guest at home, and one of the proud mother asked his kid (6 years old) to narrate the Imam-hussein-shahadat, the kid obliged and parroted the shahdat routine of 12 ragra - boothu khanjer – dua no sajdo-maathu judu kari didu” and the crowd was smiling and praising the kid over his articulate cute speech. Amidst these they did not realize, kid is too young to understand such an act of sacrifice as well as the effect of beheading insensitized in psyche of the child.

These Kothari thugs have drowned Islamic principles and inspiring events from Islamic history to their such utter greed and power. Only cunning atheist can resort to such deception without fear or love for GOD.

HB this is the farmaan that all the kids need to know the Imam-hussein-shahadat by heart as per the 'khushi' of moula. Also, children being children don't understand the seriousness of the shahaadat and sometimes laugh when people cry, wail uncontrollably because for such young minds its incomprehensible to feel such pain and sorrow so there is another set of instructions that parents should stop children from even smiling then.

I don't know why such unreasonable diktats are made for 7 year olds...

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:14 am

anajmi wrote:The bohra Dai has completed corrupted the meaning of Karze Hasana. Karze Hasana does not get collected. It is only distributed. To bohras that won't make any sense. Karze Hasana as per the Quran is a loan that you give to God. What that means is that you spend the money in the way of Allah and then Allah will pay you back. So for example, if I were to give you $1000 in the name of karze hasana, I should not expect it back from you. It is a loan to Allah. Only Allah is responsible for paying it back to me either here or in the hereafter. The kothari goons collect karze hasana from bohras and then give it to others only with collateral wanting it to be returned. This isn't karze hasana. Like everything else, the bohras have corrupted this beautiful piece of the Quran as well.

Bro Anajmi..to complete the discussion once a mumineen receives the karz hasana, how is he to use it and for what purpose ?

Surely not for ordering container loads of goods or buying a fancy car ?

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:20 am

Admin,

Please club this thread alongwith Ashura 1436 in Mumbai and title it as "Ashura in Surat".

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:37 am

MMH

There was a time, when Muharram (until chalisma) and particularly ashura ( 10 days) were somber days, where people refrained from loud entertainment, showbaazi and celebration ! height of these hypocrites are reaching new heights. At one point SMS brags about being simple and gives hidayat of living a austere simple life, at other end he and his followers are shamelessly displaying celebrations by firworks and such paalkhi-rath pompousness. Event of ashura was a prime tool in hands of these thugs to win allegiance / legitimacy from bohras, and now it has become a tool for bohras to gain khushi of maula, what a reversal. Khushi of maula has become more important than gam-e-hussein. Such is the stupidity and twisted logic of abdes that they do gam for khushi ! gam of hussein for khushi of maula. This is an insult to sacrifice of Imam Hussein and all the shohdaas and even those duaats who proved to be righteous preachers of Imam hussein’s sacrifice ! SMS maula seems more happy and jolly doing ayyashi living a lavish life and shamelessly mourning over pain of Imam-hussein, he cant even make a “rova-jevu-moo” genuine grief is far away.


Maatam, Shahadat, Maqtal bayan, niyaz, sabeel these concepts of ashura / muharram has been polluted to such deplorable extent. Their meanings are so miserably twisted. These thugs has turned such concepts into mere rituals to be performed routinely depraving of the emotions one must experience genuinely by their inner conscience.

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:59 am

I hope for the sake of the pomp loving Surtis that the carriage does not turn into pumpkin and mice at mid night and the lovely MS does not end up in the kitchen again making rotis...

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:04 am

Crater Lake wrote:I hope for the sake of the pomp loving Surtis that the carriage does not turn into pumpkin and mice at mid night and the lovely MS does not end up in the kitchen again making rotis...
I was reminded of the lovely Diana who rode in such a carriage to her wedding. That story did not have a pretty ending either....Was wondering who the Mufs was tying a knot with again!

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:20 am

SMS is like a spoilt male child of the bohra community. He needs to be pampered and showered with gold toys and money to keep him happy, maula-ni-khushi = mumin’s-kharcha, why do maatam daramabazi ? give him ziyafat and wajibaat he is happy, truly happy. Don’t give him money he will fume and threaten in the bayaans !


Everyone is looking forward to a 9 new rounds of adventurous quotes, blooper and controversy SMS is going to churn up ! kothar marketing team must be preparing itself with new onslaught of farmaans and cover ups in case of SMS’s burst outs !

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:12 am

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by anajmi » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:26 am

There is no restriction on the use of Karze Hasana as far as I know. Remember, it is still a loan that someone has given to you. Although you don't have to pay it back, you will still have to answer for it in the hereafter. For those who do not believe in the day that they will have to answer on, they might make merry with someone else's money for a short period. But their end will be painful.

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Re: Ashara 1436 Mumbai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:47 pm

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:36 pm

Interesting Farman
Now you need Pagdi or Pheta, a new scheme for some businessman with Shezaada Connection
Making another mockery of Maatam, PERFORM MAATAM ON KNEES.

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Re: ashura in surat

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Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:03 pm

@bohrabhai.. u forgot pg #2 and posted pg #3 twice
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Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

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Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:04 pm

Who's the guy in cream sherwani n feta and in the limelight. How much did he pay to be in focus ??

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Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

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Unread post by WiththenameofAllah » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:01 am

The stage is decorated with flowers ? is it a wedding session? May Allah really guide these blind bohras. I do nto believe in SMB also but i think he was one percent better than this SMS or may be he was same in his early dai stages as i have not seen that era. Shame on SMS ! Imam Hussain A.S must be crying seeing how his name is being misused by bohras and their leaders for entertainment,

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Re: Ashara 1436 Surat

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:24 pm

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this video should be played pari passu (side-by-side) with mufatlal's kufr filled, scam ridden, money-oriented bayans every day so that bohras can understand the massive con that is being perpetrated on them in the name of imam hussain and kerbala.