Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Dumbledore
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:03 am

Hamd wrote:classic example how munafiqun play with words and distort facts, while other ass lickers compare these munafiq with zulfiqar of Ali?
nauzobillah

I am glad sts,smb and now sms are dealing with these kazzab with iron fist and not letting them harm other momeenin Iman.
I am also surprised KQ follower chose this platform to convey their point?

seems like munafiq munafiq bhai bhai? :roll:
Bhai you are here without raza mubarak on this munafiq forum...i think you have call naam naam naam again



SBM
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:22 am

making roti is far better and superior than spreading nifaq and fitnah.
Agreed and that is why YN should have learned how to make rotis NOW CAN YOU ASK ALL THE SMS FAMILY TO START MAKING ROTI INSTEAD OF SPREADING NIFAQ AND FITNAH THRU THE QUESTIONABLE NUSS TO SMS



Hamd
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Hamd » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:59 am

SBM wrote:
making roti is far better and superior than spreading nifaq and fitnah.
Agreed and that is why YN should have learned how to make rotis NOW CAN YOU ASK ALL THE SMS FAMILY TO START MAKING ROTI INSTEAD OF SPREADING NIFAQ AND FITNAH THRU THE QUESTIONABLE NUSS TO SMS
99% bohras are united under SMS so actually you are the one who are spreading fitnah and nifaq, read what prophet s has said for such people who spread fitnaah and fasad.

read ahadith to know more :wink:



Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:15 am

please prove THOSE 99%.......Mr.Hamd your in some deep hypnosis brother!
May Allah (SWT) have some hamd on you!
Please prove Sulaimani bohras!
please prove Alavi Bohras!
Please prove Atba i malak Bohras!
Please prove Atba i vakili bohras!
Please prove Muffadali Bohras!
All of them say Imam's Ilham is with them, But we dawoodi bohars know it lies within the 50 year old trust!



Hamd
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Hamd » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:01 pm

Akhtiar Wahid wrote:please prove THOSE 99%.......Mr.Hamd your in some deep hypnosis brother!
May Allah (SWT) have some hamd on you!
Please prove Sulaimani bohras!
please prove Alavi Bohras!
Please prove Atba i malak Bohras!
Please prove Atba i vakili bohras!
Please prove Muffadali Bohras!
All of them say Imam's Ilham is with them, But we dawoodi bohars know it lies within the 50 year old trust!
which bohra are from above list?



Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:32 pm

a remarkable new mojiza of mufatlal mola, as recd on whatsapp:

at a recent seminar on mother and child care held under the auspices of UNICEF, it was revealed by a bohra doctor, that a devout follower of mola came to him for shafaqat and prayed for barakat as his wife was unable to bear children. mola asked the mominbhai to bring all the medical reports. after a quick glance over the reports, mola declared that if she took his phoonk nu pani and prayed ghanu jeevo 530 times, did ziyarat and tawaf of rozattut tahera 530/2 = 265 times and did 53 tasbeehs everyday of mola, she would be blessed with a child. the reports had clearly stated that this momina had a prolapsed uterus with severe fibroid growth and constricted fallopian tubes. it was impossible she could carry a pregnancy to term without intra-uterine fatality. but lo and behold, she did get pregnant (her husband was also prescribed pure shilajeet in large doses) and successfully delivered! her child was born, not through the usual channels but miraculously from the anorectal aperture which is separated from the natural orifice only by the thin perineum. nothing is impossible with mola's mojizas! kharekhar, mola to molaj chhe, evi emni shaan chhe, su beshumaar ena ehsaan and karamaat chhe.



Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:52 pm

Zulfiqar bhai sometimes you are too much! bwaha!



Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:48 pm

AW,

please dont compliment me. that was a msg i recd from someone on whatsapp.



Ozdundee
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:54 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:a remarkable new mojiza of mufatlal mola, as recd on whatsapp:

at a recent seminar on mother and child care held under the auspices of UNICEF, it was revealed by a bohra doctor, that a devout follower of mola came to him for shafaqat and prayed for barakat as his wife was unable to bear children. mola asked the mominbhai to bring all the medical reports. after a quick glance over the reports, mola declared that if she took his phoonk nu pani and prayed ghanu jeevo 530 times, did ziyarat and tawaf of rozattut tahera 530/2 = 265 times and did 53 tasbeehs everyday of mola, she would be blessed with a child. the reports had clearly stated that this momina had a prolapsed uterus with severe fibroid growth and constricted fallopian tubes. it was impossible she could carry a pregnancy to term without intra-uterine fatality. but lo and behold, she did get pregnant (her husband was also prescribed pure shilajeet in large doses) and successfully delivered! her child was born, not through the usual channels but miraculously from the anorectal aperture which is separated from the natural orifice only by the thin perineum. nothing is impossible with mola's mojizas! kharekhar, mola to molaj chhe, evi emni shaan chhe, su beshumaar ena ehsaan and karamaat chhe.
Someone is really serious...was the gestational period 9 months or the Mojiza also fast tracked the baby factory

The doctor is a keen record keeper that 9 months ago when SMS was just 2 mths in power was busy with helping women conceive ...by the way which city was that in. Just make sure they have thought through meticulously every detail so some bloody progressive does not find loose ends

Sometimes I wonder ivf industry can be revolutionised if they can create a pipeline for the blessed breath!



Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:45 pm

Ozdundee wrote:
.. SMS was just 2 mths in power was busy with helping women conceive ...by the way which city was that in. !
ozzy,

mufatlal got into the immaculate and not-so-immaculate colorectal conception business soon after the qatari air-hostess incident.

this mojiza happened in doha



ghulam muhammed
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:59 pm

An article relevant to the subject :-

Faith Healer Has No Faith in His Healing Powers!

What a joke ! Faith healer who is instrumental in healing incurable diseases of tens of thousands admitted in a hospital for heart disease. Faith healing doesn't help the healer....

Faith Healer Benny Hinn Is Admitted to Intensive Care For Heart Problems

Televangelist Benny Hinn was admitted to the intensive care unit in an Orange County, California hospital this weekend after suffering heart problems in Brazil last week. The 63-year-old healing evangelist is expected to make a full recovery, but recognizes that he may have overdone it during a week-long crusade in South America.

“This is a challenge, but I’m getting good reports,” Hinn told Charisma News. “We don’t have all the answers … as we get older, our bodies need repair.”

In other news, Benny Hinn has a heart.

That’s kinda odd for a pious charlatan who has no problem doing this:


At one Hinn service a woman — hearing the evangelist’s anonymously directed command to “stand up out of that wheelchair!” — struggled to do so for almost half an hour before finally sinking back, exhausted.

A professional bullshit peddler for four decades, Hinn has long managed to convince people that God healed them. In fact, he and the Almighty frequently put patients’ health in danger. For instance:


For an HBO television special, A Question of Miracles …, Benny Hinn Ministries was asked to supply the names of as many [healed patrons] as possible for investigation. After thirteen weeks, just five names were provided. Each case was followed for one year.

The first involved a grandmother who stated she had had “seven broken vertebras” but that the Lord had healed her at the evening service in Portland. In fact, x-rays afterward revealed otherwise, although the woman felt her pain had lessened.

The second case was that of a man who had suffered a logging accident ten years previously. He demonstrated improved mobility at the crusade, but his condition afterward deteriorated and “movement became so painful he could no longer dress himself.” Yet he remained convinced he was healed and refused the medication and surgery his doctors insisted was necessary.

The third case involved a woman with self-described “hearing loss,” which her physician told the investigative team had been “very mild”; she had in fact recovered many moons before the Hinn treatment, he added. The best we can say for the faith healer is that he didn’t make things worse in this patient’s case.

Others weren’t so lucky.


The fourth case was that of a girl who had not been “getting enough oxygen” but who claimed to have been healed at Hinn’s service. In fact, since the crusade she “continued to suffer breathlessness,” yet her mother was so convinced that a miracle had occurred that she did not continue to have her daughter seek medical care.

Finally, there was what the crusade billed as “a walking dead woman.” She had had cancer throughout both lungs, but her doctors were now “overwhelmed” that she was “still alive and still breathing.” Actually, her oncologist rejected all such claims, saying the woman had an “unpredictable form of cancer that was stable at the time of the crusade.” Tragically, her condition subsequently deteriorated and she died just nine months afterward.

The Gospel Herald assures us that Hinn will be fine. What the publication doesn’t mention is that that’s thanks to the skilled intervention of nurses and doctors, and thanks to pharmaceutical science.


Hinn’s oldest daughter, Jessica Hinn-Koulianos, reported that her father was in Brazil for an intense ministry that catered to crowds of over 100,000 people. When he returned this last weekend, he began complaining of shortness of breath. His daughter urged him to see a cardiologist who has since treated Hinn for lack of oxygen in his bloodstream.

When Benny Hinn gets sick, he doesn’t mess around with faith healing. He goes to a hospital. What does he know that he’s not telling his followers?


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -problems/



ghulam muhammed
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:28 pm

KOTHAR'S MOJIZA FACTORY PRODUCES ONE MORE MOJIZA

27 mi taarikh moula zyafat si padhari rahya hata ye time ek mojezo zahir thayo, moula jiware gaari ma tashreef rakhi chuka hata ei time ek bairo ni araz Thai jena andar asar hato ane jem tem tafri rai hati...moula ye puro kaanch aap na hath si niche kido ane ehni taraf jalali nazar si dekhi ne fermayu ke ehna kaan ma لا حول ni tasbeeh kero.guards ehne pakri ne kaan ma tasbeeh kare.logo bhi aas paas zor si tasbeeh kerwa laga..jem jem tasbeeh kare emm ye bairo wadhare tafreh ane moula ni gaari par laat maare.

Pachi huzur ye pani ni bottle mangawi ane pani par shifa boli ne khud na haath mubarak si zor si pani charkhu.almost puri bottle ehna par charkhu.jaha pani charku ke jem balloon ma si hawa nikli jai emm ye bairo ni halat thai gai..ane thora seconds baad ankh kholi ane roi ne moula ne اني والله احبك يا مولاي ni araz kare

moula ye tabassum keri ne nazar fermawi ne padhari gaya

ajab fakhruddin shaheed na farzand ni shaan ke on d spot faislo keri dido



gulam_parinda
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by gulam_parinda » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:20 am

Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS performs ziyarat of the 43rd Da'i Saiyedna Yusuf Nooruddin of the Alavi Bohras _[followers of Saiyedna Ali bin Ibrahim (RA)]_. Pictured with Mufaddal Maula TUS is the 44th Dai of the Alavi Bohras Saiyedna Abu Sa'eed il-Khayr Haatim Zakiyuddin. Maula to "true Mojiza" na saheb che, karam ane ehsaan che ke bija mazhab ne bhi dua ma shaamil kare che.

Ab isme kya mojiza he mujhe to samaj me nahi aaya...aap me se kisi ko aaya ho to bataye :wink:
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by byculla » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:29 am

gulam_parinda wrote:Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS performs ziyarat of the 43rd Da'i Saiyedna Yusuf Nooruddin of the Alavi Bohras _[followers of Saiyedna Ali bin Ibrahim (RA)]_. Pictured with Mufaddal Maula TUS is the 44th Dai of the Alavi Bohras Saiyedna Abu Sa'eed il-Khayr Haatim Zakiyuddin. Maula to "true Mojiza" na saheb che, karam ane ehsaan che ke bija mazhab ne bhi dua ma shaamil kare che.

Ab isme kya mojiza he mujhe to samaj me nahi aaya...aap me se kisi ko aaya ho to bataye :wink:
Since he is clearly doing ziyarat of Alavi Bohra dai, perhaps in future can we expect Shz Mufaddal Saifuddin to visit Darus Sakina to do ziyarat of Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin RA ?

Really not sure why he is doing this. Perhaps politics. Perhaps give and take from Alavis on the ongoing court case.
After all according to him alavis are also "davedaar". According to Mufaddali doctrine, all davedaars (those who do "dawa" of being dai) are worthy of lanat. So its ok to do ziyarat of a person whom you regard worthy of lanat ? Would he also knowingly do ziyarat of Abu Bakr LA also (whose qabr is next to Rasulullah SA) absent of coercion by wahhabis ?



kimanumanu
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:38 am

This is ziyarat of Syedi Musanji bin Taj in Baroda and not of Alavi dai.



byculla
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by byculla » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:00 am

You may be right (about the picture). However the message was apparently floated in Abde circles. I received separately as well on November 1 from an abde source.

FYI - I was able to dig into the original message I received. It had one additional thing - in quote below:

"They have reached an agreement they (alavi bohora ) will be allowed to go for haj with dawoodi bohoras...and will be allowed to do all ziyarat which are in dawoodi boharas control...."



Shk Mohammed Yamani
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:55 pm

Hamna Surat, Marol, Karachi anei Nairobi Jamea ma darajah Khamesa ni dikrio ne khaas ek mahina wastei potana gharrei mokla ye wastei ke sagli dikrio potana ghare rahe ne dekhe ke ghar nu kaam kem ehna maa kare che.
Ghar ma bulbs kem change thai che,
walls ma khila kem nakhai.
Waasan kem dhoi ne pacha mukai che.
Bazaar si ghareli chizo ni shopping kem thai che.

Khaas dishes bhi pakawana instructions. Yaha tak ke tapela ma jaman stick thai ne jali na jai te wastei kem ehni maa kare, ye saglu sikhi ne awe.

Mufaddal Moula tou Mufaddal Moulaj che!!!!!!!
Khuda Moula ni tawaqoaat mutabiq apne apna farzando ni tarbiyat karwani yaari aapjo anei har waqt Aali Qadar Mufaddal Moula ni tasbi na karnar karjo, Aamin.

Forwarded as received.

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90 percent of bohri households have kaamwali who cooks and wash dishes etc, no one cooks as they all get unhealthy untasty jaman from FMB so what's the point of sending Zohra tus sharaf "the queen tutakamuns" bandiyo to their mother's home?



SBM
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:20 am

Simple Answer
Hamara Ghadey to Moula ni Thaali Aawye chey, su maate hame aa badhu sikhey. Moula tu Moula chey



think
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Re: Mufaddal Mola na Mojiza

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Unread post by think » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:21 pm

what a paradox.
firstly he orders old and young to make rotis. So I see old bearded men in jamaatkhanas attending roti making sessions.children get out of school and go to jamaat khana to learn how to knead dough and make round rotis as if this would be the profession they will adopt later.
Then comes the Tiffin charade. Every mumin should and must give money and get mawaid tiffin . so strong was this command that one had to get it or face the lathi charge of the gundas of the jamaat. mumineen who were sick and did not want to eat this food also had to order it and give it away to their drivers and maids.
Now, other than roti he has a long list of commands ;start making all kinds of dishes, wash the dishes, go shopping etc. Some body has gone nuts.
Is this some thing that needs to be told? I guess so since the abdes have lost their brains to Muffy.