Who is the Current Mazoon and Mukasir?

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Fakhruddinsuratwala
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Who is the Current Mazoon and Mukasir?

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Unread post by Fakhruddinsuratwala » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:32 am

If it is claimed by Muffis camp that there is Zahiir Baatin Mazzon and Mukasir than who is the current Batiin Mazoon and Mukasir?

humanbeing
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Unread post by humanbeing » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:34 am

Dear FSW
If they told you who is the “baatin” mazoon and mukasir, then they will not remain “baatin” no !!!

allbird
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Unread post by allbird » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:06 am

I think for last 50 years we have Zahir-Batin theories floating. But now the tables have turn it all Khosher and real character is play....PUN intended !

Ozdundee
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Unread post by Ozdundee » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:45 am

How about if we pay wajebat in batin, that will teach them a lesson not to play the zahir and batin game

Akhtiar Wahid
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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:43 pm

we pay money for wajebaat in Zahir and they pay barakat for us in Baatin PUN intended!

ghulam muhammed
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:12 pm

Fakhruddinsuratwala wrote:If it is claimed by Muffis camp that there is Zahiir Baatin Mazzon and Mukasir than who is the current Batiin Mazoon and Mukasir?
It depends on who furthers the agenda of Muffy's lies and based on that he will keep on changing the zahir and batin mazoon and mukasir.

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Unread post by mukhtaarhusain » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:59 pm

There is nothing such as Zahir n Batin...If there is Zahir n Batin then d muffy n gang would b knowing from before of SKQ'S Betrayal. .

ghulam muhammed
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:07 pm

Fakhruddinsuratwala wrote:If it is claimed by Muffis camp that there is Zahiir Baatin Mazzon and Mukasir than who is the current Batiin Mazoon and Mukasir?
Shehzada Narendrabhai saab Modiuddin and Shehzada Amit Shahuddin.

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:12 pm

They won't tell you who the batin mazoon mukasir is! Only the select few of muffy's chamchas know that! :-) They will just tell you to put anything you have learned from aala kitaab in a "different compartment" and not compare it with this world. In other words, "we will tell you what the aala kitaabs say", not Burhanuddin Mola's RA mazoon!
Muffy's current mazoon used to be mukasir and Muffy's mukasir is none other than the tormentor qasim bs, leader of the wolf pact!
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allbird
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Unread post by allbird » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:33 am

Rasullah (SAW) taught us to believe in Allah (SWT) and pray namaz. On the sideline he instructed that respect my alhlul-Bayt after my departure and if you need any advise or leadership follow Moula Ali (AS).

This is such a nonsense going on in Bohraism that even those most honest Abde's are now talking "Bhai su karea we are born in this sect and that's all we know and lived in", do we have a choice ?

Follow like sheep's with safia chitti and eJamaat cards. I think in future with Ruku Chitti we will be buried with ejamaat cards.

asad
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Unread post by asad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:18 am

According to the camp who vouches for this Zahir batin theory first Yousuf Najmuddin and than Mufaddal Saifuddin was the Batini mazoon and Qasim Hakimuddin was always a Batini mukasir and on his death Ali Asgher kalimuddin was supposed to take the post but as Qasim Hakimudding has been made zahiri Mukasir so now the post of batini Mukasir has gone to Ali Ashgher Kalimuddin and Jafer us Sadiq Saifuddin has been appointed as batini Mazoon.

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:19 am

asad wrote:According to the camp who vouches for this Zahir batin theory first Yousuf Najmuddin and than Mufaddal Saifuddin was the Batini mazoon and Qasim Hakimuddin was always a Batini mukasir and on his death Ali Asgher kalimuddin was supposed to take the post but as Qasim Hakimudding has been made zahiri Mukasir so now the post of batini Mukasir has gone to Ali Ashgher Kalimuddin and Jafer us Sadiq Saifuddin has been appointed as batini Mazoon.
:-) Yeah, brains with different compartments - more like marbles.

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:53 am

You can watch the two batini masterminds in action in this video of the nass at Raudat Tahera:

http://youtu.be/Ge9wG2Irv-Q?t=23m26s

Watch how they are the ones who gave the signal for the shawl ceremony to commence!