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toyboy
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Unread post by toyboy » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:35 am

What is the secret behind this basarat in our dargah :(

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:02 pm

Never heard of "basarat". Are you sure you have the word correct? What is this for?

toyboy
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Unread post by toyboy » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:37 pm

Basaarat is a faisla which usaly happens in our dargah like galyakot, burhanpur
It's like taking evil forces or evil out from you or your family member before Sts and smb Names where taken but now sms is also very active. ...

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:40 pm

I have seen with my own eyes Burhanuddin Mola RA taking out spirits in bethak in Jamnagar and Surat. But he took them out himself. I'm not following what you are saying.

toyboy
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Unread post by toyboy » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:48 pm

Is this true that they take out spirit from you ...If it is so then we have to believe sms also.

ghulam muhammed
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:56 pm

toyboy wrote:Is this true that they take out spirit from you ...If it is so then we have to believe sms also.
If the same is true then you will also have to believe the various tantriks, babas and aghori babas who perform this ritual at Mandirs.

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:59 pm

Yes, Mr. Ghulam Bhai is correct! The Catholic church has been "exorcising" spirits for centuries - even before Islam.
But I have not heard mufaddal bs doing this. What exactly is it that you are talking about? Just merely taking his name and they come out - is that what you're saying?

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:08 pm

Toyboy:
Listen, just because he takes out spirits doesn't mean anything, as I've said above. But if he is haq na saheb, then according to our beliefs, he would be able to provide the spirit a proper resting place in the spirit world. Read the fatemidawat.com site for more info.

Dumbledore
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Unread post by Dumbledore » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:17 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
toyboy wrote:Is this true that they take out spirit from you ...If it is so then we have to believe sms also.
If the same is true then you will also have to believe the various tantriks, babas and aghori babas who perform this ritual at Mandirs.
Tantriks,aghori,bangali babas do evil practices to remove spirits called "bad ilm" but yes through quraan and proper practices of ruqqyas one can be cured of the jinn or evil spirit posession

accountability
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Unread post by accountability » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:28 pm

Come on guys, this is 21st century. there are no spirits, Syedna burhanuddin or syedna tahir saifuddin never took out any spirit. there is no haq na sahib. there are only syednas. right now they happen to be born in a syedna;s family, so after a feud or two, one claims to be syedna, the other counter claims it. that is all. once i was visiting hakimuddin maula dargah, that was 20 years, we were told to shut the doors of our rooms, because that night some mojiza was about to happen. well me and my brother in law, we were standing outside to just watch what was happening, and you know nothing happened. but the following day the guy who was staying in adjuscent room was talking about the mojiza that never happened. there is not single word of exageration in what i said. my brother in law is also witness. at that time he was a chain smoker, he even lighted one and then we went out.

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:18 am

LOL

seeker110
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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:37 am

We are the only creatures with the ability to reason. We are the only creature that pins their lives existence in the most unreasonable.

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:18 am

What happened to Toyboy? I hope he got his questions answered.

Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:52 pm

toyboy wrote:Basaarat is a faisla which usaly happens in our dargah like galyakot, burhanpur
It's like taking evil forces or evil out from you .
can i have a basarat performed collectively on the entire bohra abde mufatlal community? is it possible? i wish to have the evil jinn of mufatlal taken out from the community's bodies? anyone with ideas?

fustrate_Bohra
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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:57 pm

Zulfiqar bhai u r already doing basarat by posting ur thoughts in this forum apart from many other like minded :)

JC
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Unread post by JC » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:34 pm

So Abdes and Amtes can have BASARAT but do not have any BASEERAT ...........

humanbeing
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Unread post by humanbeing » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:02 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
toyboy wrote:Basaarat is a faisla which usaly happens in our dargah like galyakot, burhanpur
It's like taking evil forces or evil out from you .
can i have a basarat performed collectively on the entire bohra abde mufatlal community? is it possible? i wish to have the evil jinn of mufatlal taken out from the community's bodies? anyone with ideas?
Cut the money supply, remove the ayyashi, enforce austerity measures. SMS will walk up to SKQ or anyone else and handover the DAISHIP.

Akhtiar Wahid
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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:15 am

this community is doomed if elements of black magic, voodo and ghostly possessions becomes hot topics!