Bohra Jamat's intervention in Family Conflicts

[Universaldad]

Also sorry to know about the low respect and opinion you have for your Daadimaa, Dadajee, Nanajee and Nanimaa.... Absolutely no Professionalism here.

Universaldad Bhai
and how about the respect we gave to Sydi Khuzema he is also some one's Dada and Nana from Muffadal Moula's family.

Khozema lost all respect of the Dawoodi Bohra community the day he went against the nass on SMS TUS by SMB RA. KQ is no longer a nana or dada to any of SMS's children.

[kimanumanu]

KQ is no longer a nana or dada to any of SMS's children.

Eh?

[Universaldad]

The Dawoodi Bohras have a support and community system that is working well. Basically the problem is that of the individuals in the couple or family.. it is a private affair. When people cannot over come their differences they seek mediation. The Dawoodi Bohra Community has a structure where one can seek mediation and advise unlike other communities where they would at the first instance go to some family counselor and then soon to the court. The mediation offered by the Dawoodi Bohra community and institutions has saved many a marriages and family separations and helped with a lot of dispute resolution without the need to go to the court. It has been a fair practice if both the parties have faith in the advise given from these support systems as these are based on the teachings of Aqa Moula and shariyat. In short people of Faith are aware what is right and what is wrong, people of Faith are aware of what is reasonable and can be reasoned with.

Brother, the system you describe works for some, but for far fewer than you would be willing to accept. It just doesn't work for the majority of the people.
However, you then start talking about "faith" and "teachings of Aqa Maula" and "people of faith". How dare you assume this morally superior attitude and further abuse those who are already in conflict and suffering due to their marital problems or even divorce, by insinuating something about their faith?
You know what, sir, I have news for you. You very beautifully just demonstrated how the so called representatives of Maula manipulate and bully couples and families in the name of faith.. So if your INTERVENTION doesnt work, it means they are not people of faith or are not reasonable people? Blame the couple, cry out loud by throwing accusations. This is nothing but self-righteous zeal and spiritual chauvinism as a cover up of plain ole ineptitude and poor Interventions and harmful guidance.

Listen lady, there is no chauvinism here... I refer to the faith of both the male and the female in the marriage. It take two to tango. Do you know that as per islamic sharia law no one can force a divorce on a man? It is entirely his prerogative. the Jammat and badri mahal representatives just try to mediate and help with a solution. Faith is the key.. this is what SMB RA and SMS TUS have continuously said in their waaz for marriage, 'Look at the Iman of the person, not other things...' this is for the fact that if a person is strong in his/her Iman he/she will follow sharia and will do nothing wrong. The expectation here is that both have good Iman. Most cases I have seen is where one person is of faith and the other is not. Sadly the woman may be stuck if the husband does not have a strong faith.

[qutub_mamajiwala]

if the woman is stuck, then what should she do?
any solution dude?
chant maula maula 24 hrs or something else also?

[Universaldad]

if the woman is stuck, then what should she do?
any solution dude?
chant maula maula 24 hrs or something else also?

Yes she can make her faith stronger not only by praying the name of the Dai's but also those of the Imams and panjatan and Allah. She can seek blessings of Dai and pray to Allah to find her a way out of the problem. Lets pray that all Dawoodi Bohra couples have strong faith and the wisdom to heed Aqa Moula SMS TUS advise and live a loving and peaceful life.

Point here is that is this a Islamic debate against the injustices on women due to the bad interpretation of Sharia law?

[qutub_mamajiwala]

praying to Allah to find her way out--that is called dua--if u dont know.
everybody does it, and Allah answers in his infinite wisdom.
i am asking what should she do on ground zero?

[Deerseye]

Either our die hard abde brothers are really ignorant or they just don't want to accept reality. Fact is that on ground zero a poor uneducated helpless women will receive a few thousand rupees as mawasat in Ramzan, that too after umpteen rounds of the Jamaat office and salaams to Amil but if she is expecting true justice forget it. It is usually the man who wins the case. All jamaats employ goonda type characters and such rouge men come in handy for doing their shady work. There may be difference of opinion but I. Have seen this happening.

[alivasan]

Samina

you don't get topic well. your post displays rambling of thoughts here and there and shown up in words.you say BM sheikh is unprofessional and still say we have better system in place.can you define what unprofessional means? have you happpened to talk to so called BM sheikh personally.? dont post senseless comments.

[SBM]

To all Die Hard specially UniversalDad
Why did SMS divorced his first wife, daughter of SKQ? Why SMS could not convince his wife to stay with him Did any one tried mediation between them?
What can you tell us about SMB's mother? what happened to her and why no one talks about her death and life?
Diya Talle Andhera

[alivasan]

How otherwise muffy would have become so called dai.it was only via marrying jurri (AZ correct me if wrong) and she is not pleased with muffy as he is still half dai, don't have guts to get back kids to india

[ghulam muhammed]

Do you know that as per islamic sharia law no one can force a divorce on a man? It is entirely his prerogative.

Have you ever heard of "Khula" ?.....

The new Muslim women act of 1986, defines a divorced woman as one whose divorce has been effected either by Talaq or by Khula. It essentially means is that if a couple cannot get along, the wife too can seek separation by paying some compensation to her husband. If both cannot agree to the compensation then a court/ arbitrator will decide the compensation. The role of the judges is therefore only to the extent of deciding the compensation. Many experts have already suggested that the compensation a wife would pay cannot exceed the Mahar the husband would have agreed to pay. This settlement should be notwithstanding the right of a divorced woman to make claims from her husband for herself and her dependent children as per provisions of the "The Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act 1986."