Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:24 pm

MUFFY WITH THE CHIEF MINISTER OF GUJARAT, ANANDIBEN PATEL WHO IS A CLOSE AIDE OF NARENDRA MODI

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:20 pm

To the idiotic dumb Ghetas of Dai who are made to believe that Bohras were not targeted during 2002 due to the so called dua, barkat and azeem shaan of their Dai, herein below is an article from Times of India which appeared in 2002 which gives a synopsis of what happened in ONE city alone !! There are numerous such instances of Bohras being attacked, looted and their establishments burnt in the ENTIRE Gujarat :-

BJP and Modi let us down, say Bohras

Rajkot: The peace-loving and trading community of bohras in Rajkot believe that they have all the reasons to be unhappy with the ruling BJP and the Chief Minister Narendra Modi whom they voted for just a week before riots erupted. "we have given everything that the BJP and Modi demanded for during the electioneering and yet this is what they gave us in return" was the common refrain when this correspondent talked to a cross section of the community.

As many as 200 shops and 20 houses were destroyed by mobs in the aftermath of the Godhra tragedy. It is also no secret by now that a senior BJP leader from the city who was spearheading the election campaign of Modi, in close co-ordination with the RSS had systematically targeted the community, their trading houses and homes. "It was neither by default nor mob fury. It was a systematically orchestrated plan to inflict injury on the community" said a senior Bohra community leader wishing anonymity for obvious reasons. He said the BJP leader constantly contacted the RSS cadre in the city through mobile phones and instructed on the next target for mob fury. Even a BJP leader confirmed this act and remarked "things are beyond our control. the remote control is somewhere else ."

The community, virtually living in fear, are keeping a low profile. Ammel saheb Kauserali at the Noor Masjid in the old Rajkot area told TNN "The loss to our business is running into crores." The head of Dawoodi Bohra community Syedna saheb declined to comment on any controversial issue, but said "let allah give them sense. why punish innocent people? instead punish those who perpetrated the crime."

When asked what would be their next step, Kauserali said "Ask for dua for peace and tranquillity. We allowed the BJP to organise a meeting and Congress was also allowed to express their views. while no fiat was issued, the final voting decision was left to individuals." Ameel saheb was, however, critical of the role of the Police Commissioner Upendra Singh, who "failed to act in time that could have saved some property and houses."

However, some other members of the community were more forthcoming. "we have been wronged for no fault of ours and despite the fact that the community stood solidly behind Modi, he failed to stand by us in our times of crisis." The community members do not rule out the involvement of "someone from within" in the attacks. a community leader said "otherwise, how was it possible that shops even without a signboard were looted? It is amply clear that someone from within the community was guiding the mobs." When contacted, BJP leader Vijay Rupani said "the riots which spread like wildfire after 4 pm could be the handiwork of unknown people." Defending the acts of the VHP, Rupani said that "it could be that the bohras were targeted as their names and surnames were similar to the ones of the Muslim community."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 504541.cms

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:47 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:MUFFY WITH THE CHIEF MINISTER OF GUJARAT, ANANDIBEN PATEL WHO IS A CLOSE AIDE OF NARENDRA MODI

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Allama Iqbal
Kiya Gaya Hai Gulaami Main Mubtala Tujh Ko !!!!
Ke Tujh se Ho na Saki Fiqr ki nigehbaani !!!!

2. Deen Haath se dekar Agar Azaad Ho Millat !!!!!
Hai aisee Tijarat main Musalman Ka Khasaara !!!!

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Unread post by lawgraduate » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:20 am

Muffy is now crossing the red line of dawat and shariyat, he is making fun of shaheed and his resting place, Syedna Qutbuddin naa roza ni behurmati kidi with these flashing colors and disco lightings, this is not going to be smooth for muffy in coming days Inshallah.
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Unread post by lawgraduate » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:25 am

looks like he is already been caught by ALLAH SUBHANU MASHALLAH

Repercussions' of reserving a Road in Ahmedabad, saraspur area on 27th Jamadil ukhra 16th April 2015. when the road passing by the Roza of Qutbuddin Shahid maula. was restricted for the other Citizens of Ahmedadbad. by building walls on both the sides of the road near the Roza, the neighboring locals started pelting stones on Bohras. result to that entire ceremoney was cut short & Muffadal mola with his party caught a plane & flew of to Sri lanka Colombo. without mentioning their next tour to where n when.

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Unread post by think » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:40 am

abdes and amtes, see for yourself. your dai is standing with folded hands towards this woman associate of n.m. and he is also giving her a bouquet of flowers. and you silly abdes and amtes dance around this fake dai. do let your children see this tamasha for the one who calls himself "moula"

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:59 pm

NOW WHAT TYPE OF "IJTEMA" IS THIS ??

12 Umoor Khidmatguzaroo Ijtema At Saleh Masjid Karachi

28th Jumadil Aakhar, 1436
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:19 pm

lawgraduate wrote:looks like he is already been caught by ALLAH SUBHANU MASHALLAH

Repercussions' of reserving a Road in Ahmedabad, saraspur area on 27th Jamadil ukhra 16th April 2015. when the road passing by the Roza of Qutbuddin Shahid maula. was restricted for the other Citizens of Ahmedadbad. by building walls on both the sides of the road near the Roza, the neighboring locals started pelting stones on Bohras. result to that entire ceremoney was cut short & Muffadal mola with his party caught a plane & flew of to Sri lanka Colombo. without mentioning their next tour to where n when.
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Muffy has grabbed the public road near Roza in Ahmedabad city and there is a huge public outcry against it and a full fledged agitation is in the offing as per above reports but still Muffy is fooling the abdes be celebrating FAKE "Fateh Mubin" just like he did in the child custody case involving KQ's grandchildren although the court had ordered JOINT CUSTODY to both parties........... Now see the propaganda campaign of Muffy and his henchmen who are circulating watsup messages as under......

"Gai kaale aur ek Ahmedabad ma kaamyabi thai.... Ahmedabad ma je rubaat ane Qutbi Mazaar na darmiyaan road che ye Gujarat Chief Minister Anandiben Patel aaya tha tiwaare Aqa Mola TUS ne papers araz kari gaya..... 2 varas thi case chaalto hato..... Mola TUS ye qabrastan na paachhal alternate bypass road banaavi aapo chhe.... Mubarak, Mubarak, Mubarak".

The locals also started pelting stones at Bohras to revolt against the road closure outside mazaar so Muffy and gang fled to Colombo without mentioning more about his whereabouts !!

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Unread post by think » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:05 pm

Why muffy runs to sri lanka all the time?. There has to be a valid reason. I have yet to see any religious leader hop skip around the globe as he does and that too with other people's money.

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Unread post by Biradar » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:25 pm

think wrote:Why muffy runs to sri lanka all the time?. There has to be a valid reason. I have yet to see any religious leader hop skip around the globe as he does and that too with other people's money.
Dawedar Mr Muffadul Saifuddin (DMMS) is perhaps unique in history of dawaat in that he is celebrating non-stop, 365 days a year, 12-14 hours a day. All day long he roams around in horse-drawn buggies, expensive cars, with music and funny-hatted people doing tamasha in front of him. He keeps traveling as he needs new audience in case the old ones get bored. I mean, he does not even spare the solemn occasion of Muharram, and rides in a AC six-horse carriage, while Imam Hussain bled hungry and thirsty in Karbala.

Of course, his fanatical followers will continue to lick his boots independent of how absurd his behavior gets. Perhaps that is what they deserve.

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:43 am

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
--Edmund Burke

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:24 pm

think wrote:Why muffy runs to sri lanka all the time?. There has to be a valid reason. I have yet to see any religious leader hop skip around the globe as he does and that too with other people's money.
Huzurala Tus Lead Pehli Raat Namaaz in Colombo

29th Jumadil Aakhar, 1436
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Unread post by think » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:54 pm

what a character. one one hand he is bowing down with folded hands and presenting flowers to n.m. associate and on the other hand these abdes are asking him to blow air on their honey and water. It begs the question ,has anyone had any luck with this so called shifa nu pani. I would like to see if a diabetic person sipped this phoonk honey and was cured.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:43 pm

think wrote: It begs the question ,has anyone had any luck with this so called shifa nu pani. I would like to see if a diabetic person sipped this phoonk honey and was cured.
Don't be surprised if the next Mojiza churned out from the Mojiza factory of Muffy demolishes your claims !!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:26 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
lawgraduate wrote:looks like he is already been caught by ALLAH SUBHANU MASHALLAH

Repercussions' of reserving a Road in Ahmedabad, saraspur area on 27th Jamadil ukhra 16th April 2015. when the road passing by the Roza of Qutbuddin Shahid maula. was restricted for the other Citizens of Ahmedadbad. by building walls on both the sides of the road near the Roza, the neighboring locals started pelting stones on Bohras. result to that entire ceremoney was cut short & Muffadal mola with his party caught a plane & flew of to Sri lanka Colombo. without mentioning their next tour to where n when.
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Muffy has grabbed the public road near Roza in Ahmedabad city and there is a huge public outcry against it and a full fledged agitation is in the offing as per above reports but still Muffy is fooling the abdes be celebrating FAKE "Fateh Mubin" just like he did in the child custody case involving KQ's grandchildren although the court had ordered JOINT CUSTODY to both parties........... Now see the propaganda campaign of Muffy and his henchmen who are circulating watsup messages as under......

"Gai kaale aur ek Ahmedabad ma kaamyabi thai.... Ahmedabad ma je rubaat ane Qutbi Mazaar na darmiyaan road che ye Gujarat Chief Minister Anandiben Patel aaya tha tiwaare Aqa Mola TUS ne papers araz kari gaya..... 2 varas thi case chaalto hato..... Mola TUS ye qabrastan na paachhal alternate bypass road banaavi aapo chhe.... Mubarak, Mubarak, Mubarak".

The locals also started pelting stones at Bohras to revolt against the road closure outside mazaar so Muffy and gang fled to Colombo without mentioning more about his whereabouts !!
watsup msg:

Muffy buys public road near roza in Ahmedabad for Rs.40 lacs (officially) plus a few crores which must have definitely been paid in cash to grease the palms of concerned officials and in the bargain invites wrath of locals who are up in arms against this land grab. Sensing the heat and the tense situation, Muffy ran away to Colombo on an extortion trip.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:39 pm

With reference to the above, a local has made the following comments in the newspaper article :-

"Mane 60 varas thaya chhe. Aaj sudhi main road ne shaheedo na naam apaaya hoi, corporation road banaavyo hoi tevu to joyu chhe. Maara jeevan ma pehli vaar evu joyu chhe ke corporation ne addha (half) kilometre no road 40 lakh ma vechi naakhyo hoi".... Jagdish Patel, Samajik Kaaryakar.

It seems that Muffy is on a road grabbing spree as he has not only bought the above mentioned road in Ahmedabad but is also trying to grab Dhaboo street near Raudat Tahera in Bhendi Bazar where too he is bound to face stiff resistance from the locals. In the past he tried to grab the road near Surat roza but his dubious plans were stalled by the brave lady, Zehraben Cyclewala who filed a case against him in the court of law and managed to get a stay order thereby preventing him from grabbing the road.

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:00 pm

Is the Chinese project in Colombo the reason why Muffy frequently running to Colombo? Get hold of some good real estate

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Unread post by dawedaar » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:45 am

ITS message...

As the members of the community are aware the Suit under which claim is made against His Holiness Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin, 53rd Dai-al-Mutlaq by Khuzaima Qutbuddin as the Plaintiff, is fixed for hearing on April 27th and 28th when it is expected that cross examination of the Plaintiff’s witnesses will commence.

Members of the Community should continue to remain calm and maintain peace and harmony during this period, particularly since proceedings are underway before the Honorable Bombay High Court.


First time in history since the split, they have mentioned the name of the opponent rather than saying 'dawedaar' The mafia family is really scared of the courts! and hence the frequent farman in waez for mumineen to not go to court in any matter!

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Unread post by james » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:28 am

JavedhJuma wrote:I wonder if James and Qadir are reading this thread.

So what good came out of the riots for the bohoras? Can either of you who have the inside knowledge let us know, What good came out of Syedna's lannats on 1, 2, 3 except for his apology which still did not make any difference as one can see from the foregoing.

Now, James, you say and Qadir supports, that whatever Syedna did was for the good for the momin. Can you tell me what good came out of it?
Instead of jumping threads why don't you make an attempt to reply to my post in the child custody thread?

Oh wait,You didn't want to hurt the feelings of your Bohra friends.So why continue hurting your friends on a different thread? You don't respect them anymore? :roll:
JavedhJuma wrote: I have many Bohora friends whom I respect a lot and I do not want to hurt their feelings.

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Unread post by JavedhJuma » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:12 pm

Dear James,
I was only wondering if you were reading this thread because your community was expressing the outcome of the lanats on 1,2,3 on this thread and not on the other thread.

I don't have to respond on the other thread only because I decided nothing good came out of the lanats, whereas you said the opposite.

As for my bohora friends, who are well educated to use their brains, they were also upset with the outcome of the above and at the moment are trying to move on with their lives in the privacy of their homes praying as usual without taking sides. They are happier. They have formed a group and pray by themselves. One family joined the progressives in our area.

They agree that late Syedna committed a booboo for which a lot of their people paid a price.

So don't get angry at me.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:58 pm

MUFFY TEACHING HIS GRANDCHILDREN HOW TO HANDLE POLITICIANS AND HOW TO POSE FOR PHOTO-OPS

"FARZANDO" WITH GUJARAT CHIEF MINISTER ANANDIBEN PATEL.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:31 pm

watsup msg :

Situation worsens in Ahmedabad....... Due to the Road grabbing case of Muffy wherein he grabbed a public road near the Roza, a full fledged agitation by the locals is going on. The situation further worsened when there was heavy stone pelting and police had to fire 10 teargas shells in which a few policemen were also injured. In this entire fiasco, Muffy is missing in action as he has run away to Colombo on his routine extortion trip, leaving his abdes behind to fend for themselves. He is not concerned about the Bohras of Yemen nor the Bohras of Ahmedabad who are facing very hard times.

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:31 pm

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GM Bhai
Why are you surprised?
Jesa Baap wesa Beta.
Remember SMB left Behndi Bazar in Police escort after causing riots when he did laanats on all 3 Khalifas
So his son does the same , causes riot by building a wall and then runs away leaving Brain Dead Abdes to fend for themselves.

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Unread post by lawgraduate » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:19 am

koi jaane che kem (deleted) mufaddal colombo naa aata maare che? colombo maa koi zyaarat ke religious jagah nathi, pachi (deleted) kem colombo fafa maare che? koi ne kkhabar hoi to kai kaho bhai.
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:17 pm

lawgraduate wrote:koi jaane che kem (deleted) mufaddal colombo naa aata maare che? colombo maa koi zyaarat ke religious jagah nathi, pachi (deleted) kem colombo fafa maare che? koi ne kkhabar hoi to kai kaho bhai.
Bhai, tame bhuli gaya ke Muffy no shaandar seaside par bungalow chhe jeno saudo SMB ni maut waqt thayo hato ? Sri Lanka ma Government change thava thi kai locho pado hase etle Colombo na fafa maare chhe Muffy Mola...... Mola Mola Mufaddal Mola !!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:37 pm

This year the Zikra Majlis would be conducted in Mumbai and not Surat as per the norms !! After this, Muffy will immediately leave for Surat for "Imtehan" of Jamea students on 21st Rajab and will be stationed there for almost 10 days..... Surtis please be prepared for the nightmare !!

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Unread post by JavedhJuma » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:06 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Bro javedhjuma,

I salute and admire Prince Aga Khan for not licking Modi's a@@e like the Bohra Dai inspite of the severe atrocities committed on the Khoja Jamat during the riots of 1992 and 2002 in Gujarat. I remember how mercilessly people from your Jamat were attacked in cities like Surat in 1992. This is the sign of a good community leader who unlike the Bohra Dai doesn't care about protecting his own interests in India but gives two hoots to people like Modi ! Shame on the Bohra Dai !
Brother Ghulam,

Sorry for reverting to this only now because I needed to confirm what you said "I remember how mercilessly people from your Jamat were attacked in cities like Surat in 1992....." I was really disturbed by this.

From your post it seemed to me as if Ismailis were singled out. I had never heard of this, in fact I had there were Hindu/Muslim riots and heard Imam had intervened with the government. It seems some Ismailis paid a price for "greedy Ismailis" . I had also read how Imam had contacted PM, Heptullah and Modi, etc.

I quote what my fellow Ismaili said to me upon inquiry: "In 2002 ismailis did suffer. Specially in Surat. Where hindu fundamentalist mob broke into a khoja colony. But 3 - 4 families were specially targeted who were known to give money on very high interest rates to the people of slum near by. Causalities were small in number when compared to others. Imam called PM of that time, imam also talked with Dr. Najma Akbarali Heptulla (vice president) who had very good terms with Modi. She was able to provide urgent security for ismailis. Thousands of ismailis then migrated to other cities. Most of them were moved to Hyderabad. They were given free food for almost a year and their kids were given school fees for couple of years. A colony was constructed in the outskirts of Hyderabad for them. Many of those families are now thriving.

I did not know this. I guess I was young at the time and did not care about the world!

Everyday I thank Allah SWT for giving us a Rahebar like our Imam. He really takes good care of his flock!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:38 pm

Brother javed,

Iam very much aware of the attacks on your jamat in 1992, the hindutva mob had barged into your colony and also burnt furniture. However your community was the safest during 2002 Mass genocide as a strong contingent of police force was stationed near your colony and jamatkhana near Ghod Dod road. This was all thanks to your leader who made sure that police were present round the clock near your jamatkhana/colony, this was told to me by a high ranking police officer of Surat. Nowhere did I see any photo op of your leader with Modi nor any felicitation like the Bohra Dai who inspite of giving millions of rupees (looted from Bohras) and draping a shawl around him could not prevent the Hindutva brigade from targeting Bohras and even today NO Bohra can buy a residential/commercial property in Hindu dominated areas of Gujarat.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:54 pm

"PHOONK" IN COLOMBO MASJID.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:57 pm

Qarzan Hasanah Seminar in Rawalpindi

9th Rajab, 1436
Location: Pakistan, Rawalpindi, Mohammad Hall


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