Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by think » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:00 pm

is it not silly. these old timers wasting so much of their precious time sitting and waiting to give money to amils, zadas, etc and in the end they prove they were not even worth a second of your time. I say to these old timers, go relax and enjoy what allah has bestowed upon you in wealth and children. do not attend such tamashas. If you do want to do any good deed , go yourself and donate to a hospital or feed the poor etc etc by yourself and you will feel more satisfied. here in these tamashas you are just wasting your hard earned money . this karze hassana monies will be used first for fat commissions to one that collects , then it will be spent in all the expenses incurred to make it happen , then your monies will be spent on plane tickets to bring these holy poly to your town, and finally if some is left over, it would be given to a few and big publicity will be made to impress you old timers that your money is going towards a good cause. this is a sheep in wolfs clothing. run away old chap, you are too smart for this hoodwinking.

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Unread post by think » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:33 am

it is not the man that has too little that is poor, it is the one that wants more. what difference does it make how much one has, if one is always after what others have and only counts what is yet to get, never what one has already.
This karze hassana scheme of the kothar is such a devil. stay away from it. It makes the greedy get greedier.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:43 pm

MUFFY'S BROTHER CELEBRATES HIS BIRTHDAY IN UK.

Shahzada Aliwaqar Shahzada Qusai bs Vajiuddin saheb DM Salgirah celebrations in Bradford UK

9th Rajab, 1436


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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:51 pm

LOOK AT THE ANTICS OF THE TEENY WEENY ZAADA !!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by rational_guy » Sun May 03, 2015 2:01 am

Shehzada MS "almost" having turbat fuul during Ayamul beez and getting stopped.
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by HighFlyer » Sun May 03, 2015 3:53 am

I highly doubt if he does all these nafil roza or even ramadan roza, but again ALLAH knows best.

I doubt because it is almost impossible to travel and do all these hectic activities in roza ni halat.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by araz5253 » Sun May 03, 2015 4:08 am

burhanuddins sons used his own fathers stroke ridden debilitated body to stage a farce show of sucession all this is recorded and we can see burhanuddin was not in his senses could not even move, such a body was used as a puppet by his sons. Bohras wont accept that their "dai" was used \ hijacked in a coup to takeover the vast empire.

read more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/53rd_Syed ... i_Bohra%29#

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Sun May 03, 2015 6:45 am

HighFlyer wrote:I highly doubt if he does all these nafil roza or even ramadan roza, but again ALLAH knows best.

I doubt because it is almost impossible to travel and do all these hectic activities in roza ni halat.

I was wondering that a person who claims to be (gaib na Jankar) Future predictor, (nateeq-e-Quran) person holding the real meaning of Quran and (Haqiqi Qaba) claiming oneself as the real Qabba Mubarak could forget something like " HE IS FASTING" and then top of that it is being recorded!

.....bwahahahah!

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Sun May 03, 2015 8:51 am

rational_guy wrote:Shehzada MS "almost" having turbat fuul during Ayamul beez and getting stopped.
:lol: What a bumbling fool!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 03, 2015 4:37 pm

MUFFY HOP, SKIPS AND JUMPS FROM COLOMBO TO HASANFEER, DENMAL

THE TRADEMARK "FUGGA" WELCOME TO KEEP ALIVE THE FAKE FATEH MUBIN OF HIS GRANDCHILDREN'S ALLEGED PERMANENT CUSTODY ALONGWITH THE USUAL BAND BAAJA........ HE ARRIVES IN A MERCEDES BENZ SUV OWNED BY HIS MAN FRIDAY, BADRI LACEWALLA OF SURAT.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 03, 2015 4:46 pm

Burhani Guards Bhopal organized Daris on Niyat of Tulul Umar of Aqa Moula TUS at Haidery Jamaat Khana Bhopal

14th Rajab, 1436
Location: Bhopal, Haidery Jamaat Khana


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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 03, 2015 4:57 pm

Muffy hop, skips and jumps from Colombo to Hasanfeer to Patan and now is in Galiakot !!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 03, 2015 5:28 pm

In Ahmedabad, a tiff over a road to a Muslim shrine takes on a communal tinge

This time, the state administration is on the side of the prosperous Dawoodi Bohra community, who are enthusiastic supporters of Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Situated in the Saraspur area of Ahmedabad is the beautiful tomb of the 32nd spiritual leader of the Dawoodi Bohras, who was executed for heresy in 1648 on the orders of the then governor of Gujarat, Aurangzeb. The structure is made entirely of white marble, with gilded finials topping its five domes. Just a few feet from it, though, spanning the road which runs in front of the structure, is a rather ugly brick wall. It is quite apparent that the wall has been constructed recently and in haste, its bare grey bricks and craggy cement fillings providing a jarring contrast to the serene whiteness of the tomb complex.

The wall, built on April 17, represents the fulfilment of a five-year-old demand by the Dawoodi Bohras, a prosperous Shia Muslim sub-sect of traders, to take over a road which ran though their property, with religious structures on either side. This move has, however, inconvenienced the residents of the area, who resorted to stone pelting to vent their anger last Friday.

Sajjad Heera, officer on special duty to the Dawat Property Trust, a body which manages the tomb, said that the location of this road had caused significant difficulties to the visiting worshippers. “The area would get flooded since there was no government maintenance of the drains. Moreover, we have a mosque on one side and the tomb on the other side of the road. The heavy traffic on it was a hindrance to our visitors, who often needed to cross against heavy traffic,” explained Heera.

As an alternative route to the now blocked road, the property trust has already constructed a new public road along its northern perimeter using its own land. "We have spent Rs 2.5 crore constructing this new road and laying the drainage. Moreover, the land area we’ve donated for this detour is twice the area we’ve received," Heera said.

Locals inconvenienced

The tomb is situated in a low-income area with shanties all around, the main population of which consists of Dalits. The locals here claim that cutting the road off has greatly inconvenienced them. Poonambhai, a resident of the area, said that the “new road triples the time that it takes our children to get to school and it’s also unsafe for women at night since it’s quite deserted”.

“The Vohrajis [Bohras] have unfairly taken over a public road,” Poonambhai complained. “They are rich and have bought the road from the administration”.


The act is approved by the government although Sajjad Heera dismisses any suggestion that road was bought. On April 16, Gujarat Chief Minster Anandiben Patel met the current leader of the Bohra sect, Mufaddal Saifuddin and approved the transfer of the road to the community. Within a day, a wall had been constructed and the road added as part of the tomb’s property.

This comes in the backdrop of increasingly close ties between the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party and the Dawoodi Bohra community, after Narendra Modi’s victory in the General Elections of May 2014.

The five lakh-strong Dawoodi Bohras are a wealthy, mercantile community hailing from Gujarat. The small religious group is highly organised and functions under the leaderships of a Dai, who handles its religious as well as secular affairs. The current Dai, Mufaddal Saifuddin, has close ties with the Bharatiya Janata Party and Modi in particular, and has often expressed this support publicly. In October 2014, at a religious function, Saifuddin praised the Modi government for its leadership and schemes such as the Swachh Bharat campaign and Ganga cleaning project. In January 2015, Saifuddin addressed the Bohra community and said that he would “pray that he [Modi] stays in good health always”.

Close Bohra-BJP ties

The Bharatiya Janata Party has reciprocated these feelers. In January 2015, Modi tweeted a picture of him meeting Saifuddin. Later on, in April 2015, the Modi government even made moves to award the Padma Shri to the previous leader of the community, who had passed away recently. The Bohra community, however, declined to accept the award.

This rapprochement comes after the 2002 Gujarat pogrom, where Bohra businesses were badly affected and distrust of the Bharatiya Janata Party was high. The then Dai, however, started to work towards a change of attitude. Reasons for this move include pragmatism on the part of a largely business community which cannot afford to antagonise any government as well as a genuine belief that Modi’s pro-business policies will help the mercantile Bohras.

On the Bharatiya Janata Party’s part, this show of support from a Muslim sect helped ameliorate its anti-minority image.

In spite of this rapprochement between the small Bohra sect and the BJP, actual ground conditions in Ahmedabad for Muslims at large remain poor, with the city entirely split up into watertight communal zones. In fact, more than a decade after the pogrom, the Gujarat government still classifies almost 40% of Ahmedabad city as communally sensitive under the Disturbed Areas Act. This law prohibits a Muslim from selling, leasing or transferring his property to a Hindu, or a Hindu to a Muslim in a “disturbed” area without the permission of the state government. The Disturbed Areas Act makes Ahmedabad's communal ghettoisation unique in the country in as much as it is enforced legally by the state.

Even 11 years after the riots, in 2013, the Gujarat government under Modi was tagging fresh Muslim-dominated Ahmedabad neighbourhoods under the Act ”since the said areas was disturbed for a substantial period by reason of riots and violence of mob”. And this is not limited to Ahmedabad city: in 2014, the Anandiben Patel-administration extended the term of the Act in Vadodara till 2019.


Communalised dispute

This communalised atmosphere has, in fact, had its effect even on this seemingly minor and localised dispute. Since the low-income areas affected by the the road being cut off, consist of Hindus, the issue has taken on communal colours, this in spite of the administration backing the Bohra trust.

Chimanbhai, a resident of the area, not only supported his arguments using utilitarian reasons such as increased commute time, but also bought up the existence of a historical vao (step-well), access to which, he claimed, had now been cut off. “This historical vao is holy to the Hindus of the area. How can the administration first sell a public road and then sell off a religious structure?” he said.

Matters came to a head on Friday as the inhabitants of the area resorted to stone pelting after which, residents claimed, the police lathicharged them, leading to injuries.

Sajjad Heera, however, denied the existence of any such vao. “If there was a historical or religious step-well, as claimed, then there would be government records for it, but there is nothing. This is simply someone creating mischief,” he argued.

In the normal course of things, a vao, even if it did exist, might have been a non-issue. However, in Gujarat, given the religious composition of this dispute, it has already made the papers. Gujarati weekly, Jansahayak Samachar, last Friday, ran the story with this headline: “The 11th century vao in Saraspur’s Bohra mausoleum has disappeared”.

http://scroll.in/article/723841/in-ahme ... unal-tinge

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Mon May 04, 2015 12:32 am

The issue is that while the Gujarat administration and police may support the Bohras right now, unfortunately, in Ahmedabad, sometime in the future there will be more serious communal tensions. At that time, the likely scenario is that the police will side with the hindus/dalits. And at that time, the local and poor bohra's in that area will have to face the wrath and the pain. May Allah help and protect them.

The powers that be in mumbai will be safe, it is the poor near the roza who will likely suffer.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by alam » Thu May 07, 2015 12:01 pm

Video of Hayaat Tayyeba of SMB - another round of promoting Burhanuddin Maula memories with MS glorification. People who attend these are more and more disillusioned as they see through the desperation underlying this flaunting of the constant pairing of SMB with MS.

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Unread post by JC » Thu May 07, 2015 3:07 pm

Long Live the Same and Immortal Supreme Leaders..!!!! Gods on Earth..!!! You cannot COMPARE them to any other thing ..... Teenay, Charay, all Maulas are EQUAL and the GREATEST ............... Hail Muffi Lord ...............

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu May 07, 2015 7:05 pm

WHY IS HE SO OBSESSED WITH "PALKHI" ?? BE IT MUMBAI OR HASANFEER. OR IS HE SUFFEERING FROM SOME SERIOUS AILMENT ??

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Fri May 08, 2015 12:09 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:WHY IS HE SO OBSESSED WITH "PALKHI" ?? BE IT MUMBAI OR HASANFEER.
So that abdes can do DEEDAR of his NOORANI CHEHRO

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Unread post by seeker110 » Fri May 08, 2015 5:08 pm

So that mola can charge people for sharaff . My relative paid $6k to walk a couple of steps while holding his hand during masjid iftetah.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri May 08, 2015 7:03 pm

MASJIDS CONVERTED INTO MULTIPLEX THEATRES !!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by HighFlyer » Sat May 09, 2015 1:30 am

I just noticed mufaddal is dragging these kids every where he is going, kids looks quite big and they should be studying and going to school already instead of wasting time with muffy.

I wonder what education they will have when they will grow up and how they will cope up with modern world?

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Qadir » Sat May 09, 2015 8:27 am

they will recieve their education from Al Jamea Tus Saifiyah and get the ilm of mohammed and aale mohammed.

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Unread post by HighFlyer » Sat May 09, 2015 10:52 am

Qadir wrote:they will recieve their education from Al Jamea Tus Saifiyah and get the ilm of mohammed and aale mohammed.
even for that they should be studying in class room and not wandering whole world without any out come.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 10, 2015 5:40 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:This year the Zikra Majlis would be conducted in Mumbai and not Surat as per the norms !! After this, Muffy will immediately leave for Surat for "Imtehan" of Jamea students on 21st Rajab and will be stationed there for almost 10 days..... Surtis please be prepared for the nightmare !!
watsup msg :-

Mola tus aaje aa gaadi ma Imtehan vaaste padhara....Ajab Shaan na Mola chhe !!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 10, 2015 5:47 pm

Muffy arrives in Bhestan, suburb of Surat !!

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Unread post by SBM » Sun May 10, 2015 6:27 pm

Moula really cares for his children
In this scorching heat he really makes his Abdes sweat for all the Barakat carrying him on the Palkhi just like Firun and Yazid did with his slaves. Kudos to Moula Muffadal Su Nirali Shaan naa Moula chey :cry:

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon May 11, 2015 1:49 am

thier is hikmat in these fan fare ... abdes have become fat eating mohabbat ni roties and barkati thaali .. getting them outside is a way to burn thier calories, get vitamin D and beshumaar barkaat .. only muffy maula knows the hikmat .. and life is so boring otherwise .. he bringing the old days of raja-maharaja ... with buggies, paalkhi, pankhaas, darbaans ... and ghulaams (abdes) .. he is sultan of bohra ... it would be fun to see muffy maula in a mughal kinda attire with a feathered turban and tipu sultaan series music in the background ... while gujju abdes going ga ga singing...

azeeemo saaaaan sehansaaah ... farmaaa rahaaa !! hamesaaa hamesaaa baaki rahe !!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu May 14, 2015 3:49 pm

watsup msg :-

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Fri May 15, 2015 12:39 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg :-

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Please GM bhai,

What are you posting?. The person can't even pronounce correctly the word Supreme as in Supreme Court of India. And the word “avail” in the middle of a sentence is in capital and is incorrectly spelt.

This is likely nonsense. Sorry to say that now I will be skeptical of anything that you post.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by true_bohra » Fri May 15, 2015 1:26 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg :-

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Just use your mind before posting anything...I have already told you don't try to get browny points by posting anything that you get. The image captured is from a word file and its not a notice of supreme court.

Or was it like that the Stenographer was typing it and he first told you that come and take the pic first so that you can post it on your forum and then we will take a print out of it and get it signed and sealed from the magistrate. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: