Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:51 pm

Is the timing of his arrival in US matching the timing of departure of SMS from US, merely a coincidence or is there more to it than meets the eye?
Al-Noor wrote:Salaams,
Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS arrived in the East Coast, USA from Mumbai last week.
Syedna TUS will lead Zohor/Asar Namaz followed by Urus Majlis of Syedi Fakhruddin Shaheed RA (Galiakot) on 27th Muharram (Sunday, 8th November) at 12 noon inshaallah in Poconos, Pennsylvania. Mumineen will have the opportunity for qadambosi after the majlis. All mumineen are also invited for salawaat jaman.

Please RSVP to mv7860@gmail.com or call +1-570-977-4081 for further information.

Fiamanillah

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Unread post by seeker110 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:13 pm

Following the footsteps of his khandan.

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:50 am

SaifNOT53 seems to have been assigned the task of recruiting me to the MS side. So he keeps hounding me with random questions via PM. Posting one of our exchanges below:


From: think_for_yourself
Recipient: Saif53

Saif53 wrote:
Do you consider the following to be "bhatkela firqa":

1) Asaas al Taweel
2) Uyun al Akbar
3) SMB Moula's history


My response:

No I consider MS followers bhatkela what with quack medicinal bayans from takhat, nonsensical, hateful and crass bayans in Ashara majlis made by the likes of BADRI lacewala. Stupid people posing for inappropriate pictures before Ashara majlis, frenzied roti making, urging women to pursue home science over other professions.

If EVER I needed more proof that MS was not Burhanuddin Moula's rightful heir, I have received it in the last two years with his self-serving leadership of the people into a ditch. It has been most entertaining. We have seen extended family, regular attendees of Burhanuddin Moula's Ashara from Day 2-10, making token appearances in Houston or not at all. Perhaps they are sick of the MS core following made up of the likes of Badri Lacewala.

It's hilarious the time you guys devote to OUR Moula in YOUR majlis. It's hilarious how you hound me on this forum with your ridiculous questions when there are numerous people who "follow" MS, posting here against him. Boy do you have your priorities wrong! Clean up your house before trying to steal the neighbor's flowers to decorate it!

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Saif53 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:47 am

FROM THE QUTBI BOHRA BLOG:
http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2015/11 ... again.html
(the entire blog is deleted so people can visit his blog directly)

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by MMH » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:31 pm

Admin you must consider blocking this saif53. The moron just puts up c*** from the qutbibohra blog. He Seems to have a huge problem because he dedicates all the skq bashing on the forum.

Saif, you need to find a more fulfilling hobby. No one here reads your forwards. People won't get influenced by the forwards. People here use their aql. They won't believe this false propoganda.

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:18 pm

MMH wrote:Admin you must consider blocking this saif53. The moron just puts up c*** from the qutbibohra blog. He Seems to have a huge problem because he dedicates all the skq bashing on the forum.

Saif, you need to find a more fulfilling hobby. No one here reads your forwards. People won't get influenced by the forwards. People here use their aql. They won't believe this false propoganda.
None of us go to read his filth on his blog so he posts it here...where we still don't read it.....

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Saif53 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:15 am

Sijill #94 - Tawbah (Sincere Repentance)
http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2015/12 ... tance.html
The Qutbi Bohra Sijill #94 relates a caption from Khuzaima Qutbuddin's 1437H Moharram speech in regard to the virtues of a Mumin:

During Ashara this year, Syedna TUS narrated this Hadith and explained the many facets of this Hadith and the individual virtues... The fifth virtue is sincere repentance (tawbatun nasuh).
Sincere repentance entails seeking Allah Ta’ala’s forgiveness with a recognition of the sin committed and an earnest commitment that it will not happen again. To repent and then to repeat the infraction is not sincere repentance. When the repentance is sincere, Allah Ta’ala is ever forgiving and ever merciful (ghafurun-raheem).

Khuzaima Qutbuddin's position about "tawbah" seems to be in line with the correct Fatemi Dawat beliefs - especially the words "Sincere repentance entails seeking Allah Ta’ala’s forgiveness with a recognition of the sin committed and an earnest commitment that it will not happen again."

What is incumbent however, is for KQ to practice what he preaches. After seeking forgiveness or being forgiven, he mustn't ever repeat the same sin.

During the "Africa Episode" in 1409H, Khuzaima Qutbuddin lead a movement to claim that the Mazoon received Fayz directly from the Imam. A document was created, resolutions were signed.

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA later on traveled to Africa, clarified the correct tasawwur in regards to fayz. Through His benevolence, Syedna RA forgave those who were involved. These beliefs & actions were so grave that they were tantamount to nifaq and thus it was necessary renew their Misaaq.

On the Urus of Syedi Abdulqadir Hakimuddin QA in Nairobi in 1409H, Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA said the following:


Translation taken from: http://believesyednaqutbuddin.com/2014/ ... -in-1409h/

[Regarding aqeedah and the core tenets of our faith, another concurrent assault was launched in Nairobi, Mombasa and Malindi. Personal resolutions were signed which went against our beliefs, and against the nahj of Dawat. Some Mumineen fell prey to this ruse as well and subsequently had to renew their vows, their meethaq.
It should be remembered that hudood, dignitaries of Dawat receive their “faiz” through and only through the auspices of the Dai. He regulates this faiz and distributes it amongst them as he sees fit. In our mithaq we pledge our allegiance to our Dai and affirm that the maazoon and muksasir are below him in rank, submitting to his jurisdiction.
May our faith continuously strengthen by repeatedly voicing na’am, saying yes with conviction in the mithaq, and may the transgressions of those embodying the essence of repentance be forgiven.”]
(To read more about "The Africa Episode", please view this LINK)

After being forgiven, from 1409H on wards, KQ never dared to repeat his flawed fayz tasawwur in public. But soon after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin's RA wafaat, Khuzaima Qutbuddin was seen repeating the exact same sin that Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA clearly condemned in 1409H in Africa.

In his "bayaan" on the 27th of Rajab 1435H, Khuzaima says the following:

"... anay em bhi bayaan ayu ke je Dai ne fayz aawe ye fayz Mazoon ne bhi aawe"


Khuzaima Qutbuddin was caught red handed in Africa in 1490H spreading distorted beliefs. He seeked forgiveness, and was forgiven. But in 1435H is is seen repeating the EXACT same sin once again - as if he never repented in the first place. In the Qutbi Bohras words "To repent and then to repeat the infraction is not sincere repentance."

Sincere repentance (tawbatun nasuh) is one of the virtues of a Mumin. Khuzaima Qutbuddin has committed a sin that is tantamount to Nifaq. How can he claim to be the Dai?

(Note: Some Qutbi Bohras(eg Taizoon Shakir) believe that KQ wasn't behind the fayz resolution passed in Africa. Whether or he was involved or not is secondary. There is no doubt that that having such a belief was a great ghunah - Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA categorically clarified that in his bayaan. By repeating this flawed tasawwur, Khuzaima Qutbuddin is just as guilty.)

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:22 am

saif53 why are you so desperate to make us read your bullshit? honestly when ever you try to defend muffy you make a joke on your self.

KQ is far far better choice than muffy and I still say those who are looking to stay in community should follow KQ.

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:36 pm

One thing which directly goes in favour of KQ is that from the day one he openly declared his rutba as dai he has kept every thing open in public, he swore of Quran, he avoided useless travelling and tried to put ilm in public domain.

while muffy keep on world wide tours, didn't stopped harassing momeenin for money, invented colourful party events (even when his father was recently died). he kept rubbing politicians with money to make him look legitimate. and he kept looking stupid.

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:30 am

Followers of KQ distributing food packets in Chennai


Syedna TUS Doa Message

VICTIMS OF FLOODS IN TAMIL-NADU, INDIA

Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS is deeply concerned about the suffering, death, destruction and disruption that has been caused by the floods in Chennai and Tamil Nadu, to its residents and their properties. Syedna prays firstly for those who have lost family members and friends to the deluge, may Allah taala give them fortitude in this difficult time...Syedna has participated in the emergency relief fundraising efforts of Rapid Response, a registered Indian charity, and encourages others to do so also. Click here to read the full doa message and further details about the relief fund.

http://www.fatemidawat.com/news/doa-messages/
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Unread post by Saif53 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:25 am

The Qutbi Bohras are guilty of exaggerating their numbers and popularity. By posting information about "centers", "dawat properties" and "thousands" of their followers, they aim to market an illusion of demand, popularity and quantity. This point has been discussed earlier in this LINK.

In Sijill #94, the Qutbi Bohras once again blow numbers out of proportion by saying:

ANNOUNCEMENT: Ashara Mubaraka 1437H Broadcast Videos Still Available
Due to the tremendous interest in the broadcast of Shz Taher bhaisaheb Waaz during Ashara, the full Waaz videos will be available for viewing until Chehlum for those who have not had the opportunity to view and listen to waaz.

This statement is contrary to the reality.
Here are the Youtube statistics that reflect the "tremendous interest" in TB's videos.

(Ashara 1437H was from 13th to 22 October 2015. Chehlam was on the 1st of December.)

For these statistics, I selected the first Waaz, which is the most viewed video from TB's Ashara 1437. The other Ashara video views are considerably much lower. It is evident that much prior to Chehlam, the viewership is nearly zero.

Taher Qutbuddin is known to play the Stock Market. He, out of all his siblings must have already figured out what the patterns on this graph reflect.

I assume the Qutbi Team had no intention of removing TB's Waaz after Chehlam 1437H, it was just probably a marketing gimmick to create an artificial hype.

The Qutbi Bohra leadership needs to stop lying to their followers and prey on their innocent minds. In the upcoming Fatemi Dawat Annual Report 1436H/1437H, I sincerely hope The Qutbi Bohra Leadership will provide more factual & "transparent" reports on their "departmentS of Dawat", "centerS", "dawat propertIES", "thousandS" of followers & "tremendous interest" in their videos.

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:01 am

In the upcoming Fatemi Dawat Annual Report 1436H/1437H, I sincerely hope The Qutbi Bohra Leadership will provide more factual & "transparent" reports on their "departmentS of Dawat", "centerS", "dawat propertIES", "thousandS" of followers & "tremendous interest" in their videos.
@saif53

at least you should be happy that KQ and his team has guts to put out waez in public and face criticism, unlike muffy and his chor party who does every thing behind the doors, true dai should do every thing in public and should do real dawah to invite people to Islam.

muffy dont even allow to see his pics on malumaat and zeninfosys unless some one has ejamaat card, what is he afraid of?

also as far as report is concern KQ and his team is brave enough to put reports in public domain, ever heard muffy and his chor party published any such reports?

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:20 am

Just to make saif53 happy I just visited his link and I am not surprise to read gunda gardi wali language from muffy followers, just like leader his followers are speaking in his language.

also it is surprising that KQ who was a mazoon for so many years are now hated by these idiots for no reasons....they didnt even gave him chance to discuss his point and declared lanat on him?

if muffy is so true why he didnt organized a meeting with KQ and his followers or call them for open debate?

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:56 pm

Even Badri Lacewala got over 30,000 views!

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:50 am

kimanumanu wrote:Even Badri Lacewala got over 30,000 views!

That must make his bray-an much better than Taher bhaisab's eloquent waaz.... :roll:

Saif, don't mock our lack of properties and numbers. We don't have any properties because Muffy is sitting like a snake on all of them and as for the numbers, what is said here on this forum, and what we hear personally from Muffy followers when their patience is tested to the limits, reflects the ikhlaas, or lack-of, of the crowds that run after Mufs. Inshallah these frustrated throngs will one day have the courage to openly acknowledge what they already know in their heart. Truth lies elsewhere. Mufs is nothing but a two-bit showman and his celebrity is a low-point in the history of this excellent community.

Please don't bother patronizing us with labels such as "innocent minds." We are informed minds and we have been blessed with the wherewithal to take a stand for one who speaks the truth.
Every single person who is openly with SKQ wants to be with him. Many who are with Mufs are only there out of fear of social boycott. I'd much rather be counted among the few courageous rather than hundreds of thousands of disgruntled cowards.

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:19 pm

how is KQ different from muffy?

instead of endorsing stories of ahlul bayt and anbiya he wants our kids to get feed this bull crap. how good it was if instead of this crap they make videos on anbiya/imam and Quran.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13U_rHwbbE

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:03 pm

Cults always try to hide their actions and activities if you look into the history of recent cults. 1 example was a cult headed by David Koresh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh) in USA. Also cult members tend to be very violent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege) and get provoked easily and that is proved by abde behavior when their practices are questioned though abdes are not as violent and have no incidents of taking on arms and weapons.
Al-Noor wrote:

@saif53

at least you should be happy that KQ and his team has guts to put out waez in public and face criticism, unlike muffy and his chor party who does every thing behind the doors, true dai should do every thing in public and should do real dawah to invite people to Islam.

muffy dont even allow to see his pics on malumaat and zeninfosys unless some one has ejamaat card, what is he afraid of?

also as far as report is concern KQ and his team is brave enough to put reports in public domain, ever heard muffy and his chor party published any such reports?

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:17 am

Al-Noor wrote:how is KQ different from muffy?

instead of endorsing stories of ahlul bayt and anbiya he wants our kids to get feed this bull crap. how good it was if instead of this crap they make videos on anbiya/imam and Quran.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13U_rHwbbE
what makes you think that zikr of anbiya and ahlul bayt are not shared frequently by the Qutbuddins? Oh I forget...you don't know about it because [DELETED]....seriously man, you need to get a life. why do you post so much and get so self- righteous about everything. All these posts and so little to contribute.....

How is SKQ different from Muffy? how is Obama different from Trump? One is wise and thoughtful and the other a two bit, big-mouth, showman.

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:42 am

UnhappyBohra wrote:
Al-Noor wrote:how is KQ different from muffy?

instead of endorsing stories of ahlul bayt and anbiya he wants our kids to get feed this bull crap. how good it was if instead of this crap they make videos on anbiya/imam and Quran.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13U_rHwbbE
what makes you think that zikr of anbiya and ahlul bayt are not shared frequently by the Qutbuddins? Oh I forget...you don't know about it because [DELETED]....seriously man, you need to get a life. why do you post so much and get so self- righteous about everything. All these posts and so little to contribute.....

How is SKQ different from Muffy? how is Obama different from Trump? One is wise and thoughtful and the other a two bit, big-mouth, showman.
typical abde behaviour not surprised :lol: if you think obama is wise over trump and if you got those two guys for dai analogy then you do deserve muffy or KQ.

if you are in US and if you are not an idiot, you should know president doent matters much (in this case obama or trump), all decisions are taken by the lobby of politicians. same way in kothar sitting dai doesnt matters all decisions are taken by their under ground bosses.

MB was a puppet so is muffy and KQ in hands of their team players.

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:59 am

if you are in US and if you are not an idiot, you should know president doent matters much (in this case obama or trump), all decisions are taken by the lobby of politicians. same way in kothar sitting dai doesnt matters all decisions are taken by their under ground bosses.
A typical Idiotic comment from a CUT and PASTE artist.

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Saif53 » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:46 am

From the Qutbi Bohra Blog
Guidance through history (The Documentary)
http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2015/12 ... ntary.html
This post was originally published almost a year ago. The aim of this collection was to revisit the history of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA through the lense of images covering the years from 1432H to 1435H.

These pictures reflect the true and only angle to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin's RA akhbaar nooraniyah - contrary to the cooked up conspiracy theories by the Qutbi Bohras.

As we approach the second Urus Mubarak of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, mumineen worldwide viewed the 12th and final part from documentary on the hayaat taiyyebah of Syedna al Hayy al Mqaddas RA. This 40 minute video covered the events from Rajab 1432H (after Nass) to 16 Rabi Awwal 1435H (Syedna's RA wafaat).

If a picture speaks a thousand words, then this video speaks a million. Here's a brief timeline of the video:

1432 Hijri
3:00 - Syedna'a RA safar to Karbala, where he performed Ziyarat and Tawaaf around the Zareeh Mubarak - Dr Moiz Bs was performing his noteworthy khidmat, as always.

4:30 - Syedna's RA wada from Karbala where we wiped away his mubarak tears with his red rumaal. His Mansoos, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS behind him, and Hudood such as Dr Moiz Bs and Shz Malikul Ashtar Bs at his feet.
(The Qutbis claim that Dr Moiz Bs twisted Syedna's RA words and the other Shehzadas conspired against The Dai. The video proves the contrary).

1433 Hijri
4:35 - Syedna RA presided over the 1st Waaz of Ashara 1433H, where he recites the shahadat of Imam Husain AS and ends with و اخر دعوانا ان الحمد لله رب العالمين - This is heard clearly in the video.
(The Qutbis claim that Syedna RA was unable to comprehend or speak due to his stroke. This video challenges them to remove the wax from their ears and open them to the truth).

4:35 - Syedna RA performs ziyarat and tawaaf in Raudat Tahera, with his loyal servant, Dr Moiz Bs by his side.

6:40 - On Ashura day, Syedna RA arrives in the Masjid for the Maqtal. Syedna RA is carried on a miyaana giving salaami to the mumineen (who have been listening to his Mansoos's 9 waaz prior to that). The awraaq are presented by Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS. Syedna RA then gives raza for him to sit down besides him. Syedna Mufaddal TUS continues the maqtal bayaan.

8:20 - Syedna RA's safar to Denmal, where her performs ziyarat and tawaaf around the Qabr Mubarak.

9:00 - Shehzada Huzaifa Bs passes away, Syedna RA does ziyarat and places flowers on his qabr.
(Shehazada Saheb did iqraar of the Nass Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS)
9:20 - Syedna RA visits Dhongham for the iftetah of the Qubbah.

10:00 - Syedna RA travels to Pune for Milad un Nabi. While Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS delivered the waaz, Syedna RA presided over the entire waaz mubarak. Syedna RA is seen giving salaami when the gathering is addressed as "mumineen mukhliseen"

11:00 - During the wada' gathering from Pune, Syedna RA says "wada nu salaam parhu chu - السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته ".
(The Qutbis claim that Syedna RA was unable to comprehend or speak. They are mehroom from Syedna's salaam, rehmat and barakaat.)

12:20 - On the day of Imam uz Zaman's milaad, Syedna RA presided over the waaz mubarak delivered by Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS. At the beginning of the waaz, Syedna RA gestures the maseh of his hand while saying بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم


13:20 - Syedna RA travels to Surat for his 101 Milad Mubarak. On the night of Milad, Shree Narendra Modi is seated besides him during the proceession. Syedna RA gives salaami to mumineen in the mawkib.


14:20 - Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS leads the Ahya of Lailatul Qadr. Abdeali Qutbuddin (who earlier did iqraar of the Nass) is seen towards Syedna's TUS left.

15:20 - Syedna RA does inayat of Haj Ehraam to Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS.

1434 Hijri
17:00 - Syedna RA arrives for the Ashura Maqtal. Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS recites the Maqtal.

19:30 - Syedna RA performs ziyarat at Raudat Tahera on the eve of Urus Mubarak of Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA. A portrait picture is taken with Syedna RA and his brothers and sons. (Once again, KQ is missing on this auspicious occasion).

20:00 - Syedna RA presides over the Eid al Fitr Majlis


1435 Hijri
26:00 - Syedna RA performs ziyarat in Raudat Tahera on Milad un Nabi

The documentary ends on the wafaat of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA.

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Does this Akhbar not reflect:

That these are not images of an "ordinary person" suffering from a debilitating stroke? Travelling the world, attending gatherings and blessing mumineen?
Through the salaami, raza gestures, qadambosi bethaks, performing ziyarat alone, walking, reading, holding etc - is it not clear that Syedna RA was in fact aware of what was happening around him?
If, (as the Qutbuddins claim) Syedna was taken advantage of and certain individuals were conspiring against him - why do these images prove the contrary? Do these images not reflect Syedna RA doing exactly as he pleases, perfectly at peace with everything that is happening around him? If Syedna RA was aware of these "conspirators" against him, his dawat and "mansoos", shouldn't he have acted differently towards these "conspirators"?
Do the images not show the tireless khidmat these Sahebo did throughout these years, and Syedna RA happy with their khidmat?

For those Qutbis that still believe that Syedna RA was taken advantage of (na'oozobillah), wasn't aware (na'oozobillah) or was forced to perform Nass on the wrong Mansoos (na'oozobillah) - then there is ample proof in this video to refute those baseless claims.

I sincerely request the Qutbis to revisit the Noorani Akhbar of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA and 'let the truth set them free' (from the clutches of KQ).

May Allah grant the Qutbi Bohras tawfeeq to do ma'refat of the maqaam of the 52nd Dai Mutlaq - Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA.

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:43 am

That these are not images of an "ordinary person" suffering from a debilitating stroke? Travelling the world, attending gatherings and blessing mumineen?
Through the salaami, raza gestures, qadambosi bethaks, performing ziyarat alone, walking, reading, holding etc - is it not clear that Syedna RA was in fact aware of what was happening around him?
can you post a video showing all this? as long as I know and I have seen SMB was not even able to lift his hands and infact he was not even aware what is going on around him, and this condition prevailed for around 3 years after his stroke, he wasnt able to deliver waez as well.

Saif53, liars like you will just increase numbers of SKQ followers, infact since you guys are trying hard to propagate lie on internet via bullshiit blogs this will just make sensible people to join SKQ.

your condition is just like BJP who tried to win bihar election by lies and fear but lost it finally :lol:


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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Saif53 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:08 am

can you post a video showing all this? as long as I know and I have seen SMB was not even able to lift his hands and infact he was not even aware what is going on around him, and this condition prevailed for around 3 years after his stroke, he wasnt able to deliver waez as well.
The video was shown worldwide on the 15th Raat of Rabi Awwal 1436H.
If you were a Dawoodi Bohra, you would have seen it.

However, there are images in this link as well. That will give you a better idea:
http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2014/12 ... story.html

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:36 am

Saif53 wrote:
can you post a video showing all this? as long as I know and I have seen SMB was not even able to lift his hands and infact he was not even aware what is going on around him, and this condition prevailed for around 3 years after his stroke, he wasnt able to deliver waez as well.
The video was shown worldwide on the 15th Raat of Rabi Awwal 1436H.
If you were a Dawoodi Bohra, you would have seen it.

However, there are images in this link as well. That will give you a better idea:
http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2014/12 ... story.html
Bhai sahab jhooth bolne ki bhi koi had hoti hain, hundereds of DB's have seen by their own eyes how SMB was not in senses in his last days, I personally dont like to talk about some one condition once he is no more, but since u keep lying I have to keep repeating it...agree on facts and move on.

btw can you tell us why your leader muffy is so worried about pics and videos? why you guys have to keep every thing locked? even those pics are asking for passwords :lol: ...why are you guys so insecure?

you guys are in majority right now yet you are soo much scared?

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:30 am

http://www.fatemidawat.com/reference-ma ... anwar.html

Great presentation by SKQ FatemiDawat.com .... good thing is nothing is locked unlike muffy's chor dawat :lol:

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:45 am

Though I have few issues with SKQ that why he remain silent for many many years and how could few pricks like muffy and his chor party can hijack whole dawat while dai/mazoon/mukasir are present, but I must admit his current way of doing things is impressive and very much in line with ISLAM and how dawat should be.....

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:04 am

This book from SKQ team will burn Qutbi bloggers.... :lol:

http://issuu.com/fatemidawat/docs/qasid ... 6/10773887

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Ruqaiyya » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:40 am

Salam e jameel.
I am looking for a video titled "Haq ni waat" or "Haq su che" where they have marked some pranks of Dr. Moiz Bhai saheb
Any help?

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:49 am

Ruqaiyya wrote:Salam e jameel.
I am looking for a video titled "Haq ni waat" or "Haq su che" where they have marked some pranks of Dr. Moiz Bhai saheb
Any help?
This thread: http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10605 has the link but the video is no longer available.